4R70E vs 4R70w

Macattac · February 8th, 2012, 01:31 PM

Hey guys

Ive come across a cheap 4r70e from a crown vic....can i just switch it and get rid of my 4r70w?

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dcook_14 · February 8th, 2012, 02:04 PM

I'm not positive but I think any 4R7XX trans will fit any modular engine. What's wrong with your 4R70W?

Macattac · February 8th, 2012, 02:43 PM

Nothing major...but this trans comes of a us embassy crown vic...I just thought that'd be cool...rather unique mustang

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04MidnightGT · February 8th, 2012, 03:34 PM

If it aint' broke, don't fix it

Macattac · February 8th, 2012, 03:46 PM

Sure

But thats not my question. Is it a direct fit?

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p4ndiamond · February 8th, 2012, 04:30 PM

Not gonna work. The E uses a different set of electronics and would be more than a PITA to install and make work . the speed sensors in the 04+ for the OSS have a different amount of teeth. E versions also have a TSS (turbine Speed sensor) which is for detecting Torque converter slip etc.. I don't particularly suggest trying it. Its not a direct swap and you will have to spend more money to make it work on a tuner or a tune. Rep

Macattac · February 8th, 2012, 04:48 PM

Alrigthy...thanks alot man

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dcook_14 · February 8th, 2012, 06:41 PM

Good info p4ndiamond!

JerseyTrueBlue · February 8th, 2012, 06:57 PM

I'm sorry you really wanted to switch your trans just to say it's from a certain car? That seems like excessive work for something that doesn't need to be replaced? Beisdes any "company" owned vic is gonna be beat on anyway.

Macattac · February 9th, 2012, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by JerseyTrueBlue

I'm sorry you really wanted to switch your trans just to say it's from a certain car? That seems like excessive work for something that doesn't need to be replaced? Beisdes any "company" owned vic is gonna be beat on anyway.

I've had some slippage issues when going into 1st gear. Hopefully those will be sorted with a new TC and shift-kit. But as I got a kick-ass price I thought..what the hell.

And that car wasn't too "beat on". They had to demolish it because of damages to the car and hence wouldn't ship it back state side. It didn't have too many miles on it...and Sweden isn't exactly a war zone

Also, If I'm not mistaken embassy cars have reinforced transmissions....but that may be hearsay....

Still, it won't work...

p4ndiamond · February 9th, 2012, 04:39 AM

No prob bro. Your transmission is one of the best of the 4r series. It has most of the Jmod employed already and has Mechanical Diode and the OSS . If anything good fluid maintenance and a full jmod would be all it needs. And a better Torque converter of course

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Macattac · February 9th, 2012, 05:17 AM

I'm too mechanically retarded to do the J-mod so I've bought the Transgo kit

04MidnightGT · February 9th, 2012, 05:37 AM

98 4.6l F150 4r70w to 4r70e swap HELP - United Gear Heads

4R70E vs 4R70W - Crownvic.net

Macattac · February 9th, 2012, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by 04MidnightGT

98 4.6l F150 4r70w to 4r70e swap HELP - United Gear Heads

4R70E vs 4R70W - Crownvic.net

Thanks, I read that first thread yesterday...and of course I meant a 4R75E... But I'm gonna double check..if it's prior to 05 then it is a 4R70W...
oh well

Thanks again!

04MidnightGT · February 9th, 2012, 06:39 AM

No problem man, just trying to help.

February 8th, 2012, 01:31 PM	#1
Macattac Regular '03 GT 15@98mph :( Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 232 iTrader: 0 reviews	4R70E vs 4R70w Hey guys Ive come across a cheap 4r70e from a crown vic....can i just switch it and get rid of my 4r70w? Sent from my Autoguide iPad app __________________ Magnaflow Catback \| Steeda UDP \| UPR CAI \| AccuFab 75mm TB+Plenum\| 14" rotors with 8 piston calipers \| BMR LCA&UCA \| Eibach Sportline Springs

February 8th, 2012, 02:04 PM	#2
dcook_14 Banned 2004 Mustang GT 12.35@114.08 w/ 1.88 60' Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 7 reviews	I'm not positive but I think any 4R7XX trans will fit any modular engine. What's wrong with your 4R70W? __________________ Do the Right Thing, Cook. ~Zip.

February 8th, 2012, 02:43 PM	#3
Macattac Regular '03 GT 15@98mph :( Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 232 iTrader: 0 reviews	Nothing major...but this trans comes of a us embassy crown vic...I just thought that'd be cool...rather unique mustang Sent from my Autoguide iPad app __________________ Magnaflow Catback \| Steeda UDP \| UPR CAI \| AccuFab 75mm TB+Plenum\| 14" rotors with 8 piston calipers \| BMR LCA&UCA \| Eibach Sportline Springs

February 8th, 2012, 03:34 PM	#4
04MidnightGT Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 12.9 @ 111.44 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 1,262 iTrader: 0 reviews	If it aint' broke, don't fix it __________________ l Custom Hotside l TurboSmart l MHS l Hallman l On3 l BBK l Hellion l SCT l Flowmaster l Steeda l AEM l Tial l HPX l Hawk l Trickflow

February 8th, 2012, 03:46 PM	#5
Macattac Regular '03 GT 15@98mph :( Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 232 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sure But thats not my question. Is it a direct fit? Sent from my Autoguide iPad app __________________ Magnaflow Catback \| Steeda UDP \| UPR CAI \| AccuFab 75mm TB+Plenum\| 14" rotors with 8 piston calipers \| BMR LCA&UCA \| Eibach Sportline Springs

February 8th, 2012, 04:30 PM	#6
p4ndiamond Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Pacific Green Cobra 14.80 No traction Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,219 iTrader: 0 reviews	Not gonna work. The E uses a different set of electronics and would be more than a PITA to install and make work . the speed sensors in the 04+ for the OSS have a different amount of teeth. E versions also have a TSS (turbine Speed sensor) which is for detecting Torque converter slip etc.. I don't particularly suggest trying it. Its not a direct swap and you will have to spend more money to make it work on a tuner or a tune. Rep __________________ GT ENGINE (temporary) 4.30 Gears , 31 spline Moser axles , Detroit tru Trac diff, Jmod 4r70w , Pi intake Hitech stage 2 cam, Vortech V2 3.33 pulley. Alum drive shaft. Lowering kit x2 ball joints ,screamin demon coils, LCA "

February 8th, 2012, 04:48 PM	#7
Macattac Regular '03 GT 15@98mph :( Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 232 iTrader: 0 reviews	Alrigthy...thanks alot man Sent from my Autoguide iPad app __________________ Magnaflow Catback \| Steeda UDP \| UPR CAI \| AccuFab 75mm TB+Plenum\| 14" rotors with 8 piston calipers \| BMR LCA&UCA \| Eibach Sportline Springs

February 8th, 2012, 06:41 PM	#8
dcook_14 Banned 2004 Mustang GT 12.35@114.08 w/ 1.88 60' Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 7 reviews	Good info p4ndiamond! __________________ Do the Right Thing, Cook. ~Zip.

February 8th, 2012, 06:57 PM	#9
JerseyTrueBlue Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,857 iTrader: 3 reviews	I'm sorry you really wanted to switch your trans just to say it's from a certain car? That seems like excessive work for something that doesn't need to be replaced? Beisdes any "company" owned vic is gonna be beat on anyway. __________________ True Blue Crew Member #2 315's Crew Member (Dat azz) 255/298 Founder of the please leave my signature alone, I want it to say what I put there and don't appreciate you deleting it club

February 9th, 2012, 04:39 AM	#11
p4ndiamond Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Pacific Green Cobra 14.80 No traction Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,219 iTrader: 0 reviews	No prob bro. Your transmission is one of the best of the 4r series. It has most of the Jmod employed already and has Mechanical Diode and the OSS . If anything good fluid maintenance and a full jmod would be all it needs. And a better Torque converter of course . __________________ GT ENGINE (temporary) 4.30 Gears , 31 spline Moser axles , Detroit tru Trac diff, Jmod 4r70w , Pi intake Hitech stage 2 cam, Vortech V2 3.33 pulley. Alum drive shaft. Lowering kit x2 ball joints ,screamin demon coils, LCA "

February 9th, 2012, 05:17 AM	#12
Macattac Regular '03 GT 15@98mph :( Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 232 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'm too mechanically retarded to do the J-mod so I've bought the Transgo kit __________________ Magnaflow Catback \| Steeda UDP \| UPR CAI \| AccuFab 75mm TB+Plenum\| 14" rotors with 8 piston calipers \| BMR LCA&UCA \| Eibach Sportline Springs

February 9th, 2012, 05:37 AM	#13
04MidnightGT Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 12.9 @ 111.44 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 1,262 iTrader: 0 reviews	98 4.6l F150 4r70w to 4r70e swap HELP - United Gear Heads 4R70E vs 4R70W - Crownvic.net __________________ l Custom Hotside l TurboSmart l MHS l Hallman l On3 l BBK l Hellion l SCT l Flowmaster l Steeda l AEM l Tial l HPX l Hawk l Trickflow

February 9th, 2012, 06:39 AM	#15
04MidnightGT Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 12.9 @ 111.44 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 1,262 iTrader: 0 reviews	No problem man, just trying to help. __________________ l Custom Hotside l TurboSmart l MHS l Hallman l On3 l BBK l Hellion l SCT l Flowmaster l Steeda l AEM l Tial l HPX l Hawk l Trickflow

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