Trouble shifting into 1st from neutral

Silver35th · February 8th, 2012, 11:01 PM

This may not be an issue but has got me wondering about my clutch and transmission. When I am in stop and go traffic, I usually put the car in neutral when I'm at a standstill for a minute or two instead of keeping the clutch in. When I go to put it back in first from neutral, it is sometimes very difficult. However, when I go from second to first, it is completely normal and synchronized. I have the clutch pressed in all the way, so I don't have it partially engaging. I have noticed that there is some heat built up around my e-brake when in stop and go traffic. Could the additional heat from traffic cause the clutch to heat up and cause this? Maybe I need to adjust the clutch? I changed the fluid with Mercon V when I put the MGW on a month or so ago, but it was doing this before I changed all of that. If any of you have any ideas let me know. Thanks!

NickPohlAandP · February 8th, 2012, 11:07 PM

That just happens sometimes when you idle it for a while. I use synchomesh and have no problems anymore.

Silver35th · February 8th, 2012, 11:14 PM

Well I guess it's normal then. lol I have noticed a slight 2-3 grind when shifting quickly when it's first warming up. Maybe I should go ahead and switch to synchromesh. Pennzoil right?

NickPohlAandP · February 8th, 2012, 11:17 PM

Yeah, that's the stuff. Penzoil Synchromesh, 3.5 qts.

Silver35th · February 8th, 2012, 11:25 PM

Alright, so I guess instead of taking the shifter back off, I need to get a hand pump. You used any that you'd recommend?

NickPohlAandP · February 8th, 2012, 11:26 PM

Take the shifter off. Its very easy and you will save yourself a lot of headache and mess.

Silver35th · February 8th, 2012, 11:30 PM

I suppose so. I just fought so damn hard for an hour to seat the rubber boot it had! lol

number1gt · February 8th, 2012, 11:31 PM

3-3.2 quarts to be exact!

Silver35th · February 8th, 2012, 11:33 PM

I put in 3.2 of the Mercon V, guess the trans just doesn't care for it.

TheOdessa · February 8th, 2012, 11:50 PM

Doing some googling on this synchromesh- they say not to run it in t45 transmissions as the seals are organic material versus other transmissions that are kevlar based?

Also based on numerous threads including this one

http://mustangforums.com/forum/oil-a...id-in-t45.html

our T45 transmissions call for ATF not Mercon V. Isn't Mercon V an automatic transmission fluid? I could be wrong. Again, this is just simple googling here.

NickPohlAandP · February 8th, 2012, 11:52 PM

TheOdessa, I have the Crimson Trace laser that's in your sig on my .380. That thing is sweet, the pistol is a piece of shit though.

Off topic, I know. Sorry.

TheOdessa · February 9th, 2012, 12:01 AM

LOL Which .380 do you have? I own an LCP.

The pistol is a PF9. Not a Keltec fan?

F8L GT · February 9th, 2012, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by TheOdessa

Doing some googling on this synchromesh- they say not to run it in t45 transmissions as the seals are organic material versus other transmissions that are kevlar based?

Also based on numerous threads including this one

Synchromesh type fluid in t45? - MustangForums.com

our T45 transmissions call for ATF not Mercon V. Isn't Mercon V an automatic transmission fluid? I could be wrong. Again, this is just simple googling here.

what do you think ATF stangs for?? Automatic Transmission Fluid

wishIhada5.0 · February 9th, 2012, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by NickPohlAandP

That just happens sometimes when you idle it for a while. I use synchomesh and have no problems anymore.

+1

Originally Posted by Silver35th

Well I guess it's normal then. lol I have noticed a slight 2-3 grind when shifting quickly when it's first warming up. Maybe I should go ahead and switch to synchromesh. Pennzoil right?

Synchromesh will help clear up some if not all of this...

Originally Posted by TheOdessa

LOL Which .380 do you have? I own an LCP.

The pistol is a PF9. Not a Keltec fan?

sig 238 with CT sights

I like the LCP's with the CT sights though too...not a keltec fan at all...

TheOdessa · February 9th, 2012, 12:16 AM

F8L GT- Like I said, just simple googling. What's the difference between standard ATF and Mercon V? I remember when I had an automatic Ford Explorer, I had to run Mercon V in it, nothing else.

WishIhad- A lot of people do not like Keltecs. I can see why - they are cheaper, and tend to break after a lot of use. Just around 900 rounds the slide developed a crack. Shortly after the firing pin broke. Keltec send parts for both 100% free of charge. It's still my favorite gun though. Light, compact, and has a nice little kick to it. It just requires a bit more TLC then other guns. My LCP can be fired, dropped, and abused with no probs.

F8L GT · February 9th, 2012, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by TheOdessa

F8L GT- Like I said, just simple googling. What's the difference between standard ATF and Mercon V? I remember when I had an automatic Ford Explorer, I had to run Mercon V in it, nothing else.

They have different ingredients in them but both are automatic transmission fluids. The older cars take ATF where newer ones take Merc V. Both of which can be ran in a manual

wishIhada5.0 · February 9th, 2012, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by TheOdessa

F8L GT- Like I said, just simple googling. What's the difference between standard ATF and Mercon V? I remember when I had an automatic Ford Explorer, I had to run Mercon V in it, nothing else.

WishIhad- A lot of people do not like Keltecs. I can see why - they are cheaper, and tend to break after a lot of use. Just around 900 rounds the slide developed a crack. Shortly after the firing pin broke. Keltec send parts for both 100% free of charge. It's still my favorite gun though. Light, compact, and has a nice little kick to it. It just requires a bit more TLC then other guns. My LCP can be fired, dropped, and abused with no probs.

I have no doubt that they stand behind their products...which is good. Some of their quality and fit/finish just seems sketchy to me IMHO. i have heard great things about the LCP...I feel the same way about my 238..its a little tank of a pocket gun thats for sure!

back on topic....

I had mercon v in my 3650 for a summer and hated it...it wanted to nibble 2-3 and it seemed to growl more. The synchromesh has made it buttery at any operating temp

Eagle2000GT · February 9th, 2012, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by Silver35th

I put in 3.2 of the Mercon V, guess the trans just doesn't care for it.

My owner's manual says specifically to not use Mercon V in a manual transmission. You are suppose to use Mercon but not Mercon V.

"Ensure the correct automatic transmission fluid is used.
Transmission fluid requirements are indicated on the dipstick or on
the dipstick handle. MERCON and MERCON V are not
interchangeable. DO NOT mix MERCON and MERCONt V."

Silver35th · February 9th, 2012, 01:15 AM

Well it was an all around ATF. Probably was a mistake. I had it around the house and was sure it would work after referring to my manual. Maybe I misunderstood it. It shifts like butter until the stop and go traffic begins and the heat goes up.

Just on a side note, what are the signs that a clutch needs adjustment? (for future reference) Is it mostly the engagement point?

DickH · February 9th, 2012, 02:35 AM

It kind of sounds like the clutch isnt completely disengaging. If you have the stock pedal stuff, try to pull up on the pedal to tighten the cable. The stock clutch pedal has some ratchet thing so you can remove any slack, not the best setup you can have but not too bad of a trick from ford.

February 8th, 2012, 11:01 PM	#1
Silver35th Enthusiast '99 GT 35th Anniversary 14.266 @ 103.41 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 796 iTrader: 0 reviews	Trouble shifting into 1st from neutral This may not be an issue but has got me wondering about my clutch and transmission. When I am in stop and go traffic, I usually put the car in neutral when I'm at a standstill for a minute or two instead of keeping the clutch in. When I go to put it back in first from neutral, it is sometimes very difficult. However, when I go from second to first, it is completely normal and synchronized. I have the clutch pressed in all the way, so I don't have it partially engaging. I have noticed that there is some heat built up around my e-brake when in stop and go traffic. Could the additional heat from traffic cause the clutch to heat up and cause this? Maybe I need to adjust the clutch? I changed the fluid with Mercon V when I put the MGW on a month or so ago, but it was doing this before I changed all of that. If any of you have any ideas let me know. Thanks! __________________ SMR #2043

February 8th, 2012, 11:07 PM	#2
NickPohlAandP I like boobs!!! 2000 GT convertible dunno Join Date: May 2011 Location: Brooklet, GA Posts: 2,827 iTrader: 2 reviews	That just happens sometimes when you idle it for a while. I use synchomesh and have no problems anymore. __________________ Last time you voted to prove you aren't racist. This time prove you're not an IDIOT!!! My Garage--->http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-46919/

February 8th, 2012, 11:14 PM	#3
Silver35th Enthusiast '99 GT 35th Anniversary 14.266 @ 103.41 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 796 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well I guess it's normal then. lol I have noticed a slight 2-3 grind when shifting quickly when it's first warming up. Maybe I should go ahead and switch to synchromesh. Pennzoil right? __________________ SMR #2043

February 8th, 2012, 11:17 PM	#4
NickPohlAandP I like boobs!!! 2000 GT convertible dunno Join Date: May 2011 Location: Brooklet, GA Posts: 2,827 iTrader: 2 reviews	Yeah, that's the stuff. Penzoil Synchromesh, 3.5 qts. __________________ Last time you voted to prove you aren't racist. This time prove you're not an IDIOT!!! My Garage--->http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-46919/

February 8th, 2012, 11:25 PM	#5
Silver35th Enthusiast '99 GT 35th Anniversary 14.266 @ 103.41 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 796 iTrader: 0 reviews	Alright, so I guess instead of taking the shifter back off, I need to get a hand pump. You used any that you'd recommend? __________________ SMR #2043

February 8th, 2012, 11:26 PM	#6
NickPohlAandP I like boobs!!! 2000 GT convertible dunno Join Date: May 2011 Location: Brooklet, GA Posts: 2,827 iTrader: 2 reviews	Take the shifter off. Its very easy and you will save yourself a lot of headache and mess. __________________ Last time you voted to prove you aren't racist. This time prove you're not an IDIOT!!! My Garage--->http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-46919/

February 8th, 2012, 11:30 PM	#7
Silver35th Enthusiast '99 GT 35th Anniversary 14.266 @ 103.41 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 796 iTrader: 0 reviews	I suppose so. I just fought so damn hard for an hour to seat the rubber boot it had! lol __________________ SMR #2043

February 8th, 2012, 11:31 PM	#8
number1gt Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 mustang gt Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,896 iTrader: 1 reviews	3-3.2 quarts to be exact! __________________ Rock stock

February 8th, 2012, 11:33 PM	#9
Silver35th Enthusiast '99 GT 35th Anniversary 14.266 @ 103.41 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 796 iTrader: 0 reviews	I put in 3.2 of the Mercon V, guess the trans just doesn't care for it. __________________ SMR #2043

February 8th, 2012, 11:50 PM	#10
TheOdessa Chitty Chitty Bang Bang 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,254 iTrader: 2 reviews	Doing some googling on this synchromesh- they say not to run it in t45 transmissions as the seals are organic material versus other transmissions that are kevlar based? Also based on numerous threads including this one http://mustangforums.com/forum/oil-a...id-in-t45.html our T45 transmissions call for ATF not Mercon V. Isn't Mercon V an automatic transmission fluid? I could be wrong. Again, this is just simple googling here. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT 5-Speed God Created Man, but Sam Colt Made Them Equal

February 8th, 2012, 11:52 PM	#11
NickPohlAandP I like boobs!!! 2000 GT convertible dunno Join Date: May 2011 Location: Brooklet, GA Posts: 2,827 iTrader: 2 reviews	TheOdessa, I have the Crimson Trace laser that's in your sig on my .380. That thing is sweet, the pistol is a piece of shit though. Off topic, I know. Sorry. __________________ Last time you voted to prove you aren't racist. This time prove you're not an IDIOT!!! My Garage--->http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-46919/

February 9th, 2012, 12:01 AM	#12
TheOdessa Chitty Chitty Bang Bang 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,254 iTrader: 2 reviews	LOL Which .380 do you have? I own an LCP. The pistol is a PF9. Not a Keltec fan? __________________ 2001 Mustang GT 5-Speed God Created Man, but Sam Colt Made Them Equal

February 9th, 2012, 12:16 AM	#15
TheOdessa Chitty Chitty Bang Bang 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 1,254 iTrader: 2 reviews	F8L GT- Like I said, just simple googling. What's the difference between standard ATF and Mercon V? I remember when I had an automatic Ford Explorer, I had to run Mercon V in it, nothing else. WishIhad- A lot of people do not like Keltecs. I can see why - they are cheaper, and tend to break after a lot of use. Just around 900 rounds the slide developed a crack. Shortly after the firing pin broke. Keltec send parts for both 100% free of charge. It's still my favorite gun though. Light, compact, and has a nice little kick to it. It just requires a bit more TLC then other guns. My LCP can be fired, dropped, and abused with no probs. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT 5-Speed God Created Man, but Sam Colt Made Them Equal

February 9th, 2012, 01:15 AM	#19
Silver35th Enthusiast '99 GT 35th Anniversary 14.266 @ 103.41 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 796 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well it was an all around ATF. Probably was a mistake. I had it around the house and was sure it would work after referring to my manual. Maybe I misunderstood it. It shifts like butter until the stop and go traffic begins and the heat goes up. Just on a side note, what are the signs that a clutch needs adjustment? (for future reference) Is it mostly the engagement point? __________________ SMR #2043

February 9th, 2012, 02:35 AM	#20
DickH MM Fanatic 2003 gt 5.4 32v on the way Join Date: May 2007 Location: Omaha Posts: 4,191 iTrader: 2 reviews	It kind of sounds like the clutch isnt completely disengaging. If you have the stock pedal stuff, try to pull up on the pedal to tighten the cable. The stock clutch pedal has some ratchet thing so you can remove any slack, not the best setup you can have but not too bad of a trick from ford. __________________ 2003 Mustang gt - usual mods - slowly working on 5.4 swap 2004 srt4 - Stock DD/winter beater Click here for your tuning needs Before asking a gearing related question click THIS link and enjoy all your saved time.

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