new engine, best swap besides the standard 4.6?

mrnewall · June 14th, 2007, 08:49 PM

So i blew my engine really pissed ohwell learned a hard lesson. Now i just want my car to be naturally aspirated but obliviously still fast. I spoke to a mecanic and he said i should be able to swap either a licoln navigation engine, or a f150 there both 5.4 windsors. How easy can this be done anyone done it, how would those engines work in our cars? My cars auto and only had 63,000 k on it

noob · June 14th, 2007, 09:02 PM

what was you running in the engine to blow it. :award

MustangMatt96GT · June 14th, 2007, 09:02 PM

If you want a N/A beast, go with a 351 windsor swap stroked out to a 393!

mrnewall · June 14th, 2007, 09:17 PM

what cars are those engines from? Would it be a straight swap?

MustangMatt96GT · June 14th, 2007, 09:25 PM

the 351 will bolt in with a 94-95 K-member, but it will be more difficult because its pushrod and everything! But remember the 5.0s and the 351s make more power for cheaper than our modular "crappy air flow" motors N/A! That is why blowers really wake our cars up because of all the extra air being run through our crappy heads! If I were you I would just do the 5.4 swap!

mrnewall · June 14th, 2007, 09:39 PM

would my auto tranny and rear end handle the extra power? Also how much time ruuuuuufly would it be with a good mechanic?
thanks steve

SWEET2KSTANG · June 14th, 2007, 10:44 PM

5.4 32v!!! other choices are of course is the 4.6 3v, 4.6 4v, 5.4 2v, 5.4 3v, 5.4 4v, cammer!, db9 motor should fit, i think the v10 fits with a little modification, other than that will be push rod motors. trans should fit most of them, maybe a bellhousing change. depending how much power you want will determine if the stock trans will hold up. oh and not to mention the tuning required if you go to a different motor.

Invictus · June 14th, 2007, 10:46 PM

supercharged 03/04 cobra terminator motor will drop right in to factory motor mounts!

just did the swap myself =)

noob · June 14th, 2007, 11:20 PM

i never thought of that invictus, nice job on that one. how much was the engine, did u buy it crate?

man_of_war2081 · June 14th, 2007, 11:34 PM

I vote for the 5.4 4v swap... hopfully one day I can come here and say i completed the swap... one day..

droppedbass87 · June 15th, 2007, 12:04 AM

haha yeah that would b e bad ass...so much torque it would be crazy..and then put a blower or turbo on it..but what about computers/????

matrixpuba · June 15th, 2007, 02:24 AM

if i was to stay modular, i would go 5.4
swap out for a 94-95 k member and put a 408 in it. its and easy swap.

Garhfer · June 15th, 2007, 02:32 AM

5.4 4v is the best mod motor that I know of, but I think the swap requires a different computer and all... I'd just go with the cobra engine/ 4.6 4v

man_of_war2081 · June 15th, 2007, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by Garhfer

5.4 4v is the best mod motor that I know of, but I think the swap requires a different computer and all... I'd just go with the cobra engine/ 4.6 4v

You can use the Cobras computer... just get it tuned after the swap

jrfan4life · June 15th, 2007, 09:04 AM

Hay steve how about this one...

http://www.karkraft.com/new_page_7.htm

I love it because its different... And lots of HP and it comes with everything you need, dam near plug and play...

droppedbass87 · June 15th, 2007, 01:22 PM

thats not worth the damn money..9,000

SWEET2KSTANG · June 15th, 2007, 02:53 PM

thats bad ass! i would consider it if it was forged.

jrfan4life · June 15th, 2007, 03:17 PM

Well they will make it forged for you... Check out the others they have.. I am waiting for them to come out with there BOSS engine... Its due to be released any day!!!!! When I do it I wana spend the money and do it sick!!!

droppedbass87 · June 15th, 2007, 07:41 PM

yeah well umm 9000 for no forged internals is FUCKING CRAZY....you can get an engine and forge it for 6 grand cheaper and get everything else done to it...

energiesource · June 15th, 2007, 08:30 PM

what are the 5.4s usually out of?
everyone is talking about it like its cheap, im the type to buy brand new crate motors over something used even if i have to spend alot, and that means i cant do it with the cobra engine cause i cant find them new anywhere.

June 14th, 2007, 08:49 PM	#1
mrnewall Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 47	new engine, best swap besides the standard 4.6? So i blew my engine really pissed ohwell learned a hard lesson. Now i just want my car to be naturally aspirated but obliviously still fast. I spoke to a mecanic and he said i should be able to swap either a licoln navigation engine, or a f150 there both 5.4 windsors. How easy can this be done anyone done it, how would those engines work in our cars? My cars auto and only had 63,000 k on it

June 14th, 2007, 09:02 PM	#3
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.582@97.59 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,113	If you want a N/A beast, go with a 351 windsor swap stroked out to a 393! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

June 14th, 2007, 09:25 PM	#5
MustangMatt96GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.582@97.59 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,113	the 351 will bolt in with a 94-95 K-member, but it will be more difficult because its pushrod and everything! But remember the 5.0s and the 351s make more power for cheaper than our modular "crappy air flow" motors N/A! That is why blowers really wake our cars up because of all the extra air being run through our crappy heads! If I were you I would just do the 5.4 swap! __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

June 14th, 2007, 10:44 PM	#7
SWEET2KSTANG MM Fanatic 2000 mustang gt 12.01@114.69 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 3,973	5.4 32v!!! other choices are of course is the 4.6 3v, 4.6 4v, 5.4 2v, 5.4 3v, 5.4 4v, cammer!, db9 motor should fit, i think the v10 fits with a little modification, other than that will be push rod motors. trans should fit most of them, maybe a bellhousing change. depending how much power you want will determine if the stock trans will hold up. oh and not to mention the tuning required if you go to a different motor. __________________ stock long block, bolt ons, slicks, and a little squeeze 1/4 E.T. 12.06@114.69 Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you: 1. Jesus Christ 2. The American G. I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

June 15th, 2007, 12:04 AM	#11
droppedbass87 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: diberville,mississippi Posts: 1,877	haha yeah that would b e bad ass...so much torque it would be crazy..and then put a blower or turbo on it..but what about computers/???? __________________ fraziers transmission service..

June 14th, 2007, 09:02 PM	#2
noob Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 222	what was you running in the engine to blow it. :award

June 14th, 2007, 09:17 PM	#4
mrnewall Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 47	what cars are those engines from? Would it be a straight swap?

June 14th, 2007, 09:39 PM	#6
mrnewall Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 47	would my auto tranny and rear end handle the extra power? Also how much time ruuuuuufly would it be with a good mechanic? thanks steve

June 14th, 2007, 10:46 PM	#8
Invictus Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,309	supercharged 03/04 cobra terminator motor will drop right in to factory motor mounts! just did the swap myself =)

June 14th, 2007, 11:20 PM	#9
noob Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 222	i never thought of that invictus, nice job on that one. how much was the engine, did u buy it crate?

June 14th, 2007, 11:34 PM	#10
man_of_war2081 Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 315	I vote for the 5.4 4v swap... hopfully one day I can come here and say i completed the swap... one day..

June 15th, 2007, 02:24 AM	#12
matrixpuba Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: tennessee Posts: 2,379	if i was to stay modular, i would go 5.4 swap out for a 94-95 k member and put a 408 in it. its and easy swap. __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../matrixsig.jpg

June 15th, 2007, 02:32 AM	#13
Garhfer Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Conv. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edgewater, FL Posts: 1,711	5.4 4v is the best mod motor that I know of, but I think the swap requires a different computer and all... I'd just go with the cobra engine/ 4.6 4v __________________ 2004 GT Boosted by Vortech

June 15th, 2007, 09:04 AM	#15
jrfan4life Regular 2001 Mustang GT NA Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 482	Hay steve how about this one... http://www.karkraft.com/new_page_7.htm I love it because its different... And lots of HP and it comes with everything you need, dam near plug and play... __________________ http://www.myspace.com/the_final_lap BBK cai Flowmaster 40 Accel Super coils TransGo HD shift kit, Hughes 2500 stall Redline Transmission Bands Accufab 75mm TB and Plenum Steeda udp's Ford Racing 4:10 CD performance tune 232 RWHP 279 TORQUE

June 15th, 2007, 01:22 PM	#16
droppedbass87 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: diberville,mississippi Posts: 1,877	thats not worth the damn money..9,000 __________________ fraziers transmission service..

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June 15th, 2007, 02:53 PM	#17
SWEET2KSTANG MM Fanatic 2000 mustang gt 12.01@114.69 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 3,973	thats bad ass! i would consider it if it was forged. __________________ stock long block, bolt ons, slicks, and a little squeeze 1/4 E.T. 12.06@114.69 Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you: 1. Jesus Christ 2. The American G. I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

June 15th, 2007, 03:17 PM	#18
jrfan4life Regular 2001 Mustang GT NA Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 482	Well they will make it forged for you... Check out the others they have.. I am waiting for them to come out with there BOSS engine... Its due to be released any day!!!!! When I do it I wana spend the money and do it sick!!! __________________ http://www.myspace.com/the_final_lap BBK cai Flowmaster 40 Accel Super coils TransGo HD shift kit, Hughes 2500 stall Redline Transmission Bands Accufab 75mm TB and Plenum Steeda udp's Ford Racing 4:10 CD performance tune 232 RWHP 279 TORQUE

June 15th, 2007, 07:41 PM	#19
droppedbass87 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: diberville,mississippi Posts: 1,877	yeah well umm 9000 for no forged internals is FUCKING CRAZY....you can get an engine and forge it for 6 grand cheaper and get everything else done to it... __________________ fraziers transmission service..

June 15th, 2007, 08:30 PM	#20
energiesource Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 2,367	what are the 5.4s usually out of? everyone is talking about it like its cheap, im the type to buy brand new crate motors over something used even if i have to spend alot, and that means i cant do it with the cobra engine cause i cant find them new anywhere. __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, Steeda Triax shifter, Underdrive pulleys, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. Transmission fix, new clutch Coming soon: Brakes.