Grinding after the track

weems · July 7th, 2007, 12:41 PM

We'll im going to start off saying I was not impressed at the track, my best was a 13.56 at 106 and I was expecting better , even though it was hot and humid I cant seeing it making that much difference. Anyways the whole time I was at the track the car was running fine but as soon as I hopped in it to leave it started grinding like a bitch anytime I go into second gear. Im thinking its the syncros but I wanted to get some more opinions.

MATT02GT · July 7th, 2007, 12:49 PM

That could be it. Ford has a TSB (not a recall) out on the TR3650 for the syncros. If its still under warranty Id take it in.

03 R Code · July 7th, 2007, 12:57 PM

Well, I don't know what is wrong with your gears, but I do know that with a 106mph trap speed, you could get 12's. What were your 60' and 1/8th time and mph?

weems · July 7th, 2007, 01:05 PM

the 1/8th time was 9 flat, not sure of the speed , the slips are in the car but my 60 was anywhere between 2.2-2.3 , btw eagle f1's suck

weems · July 7th, 2007, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by MATT02GT

That could be it. Ford has a TSB (not a recall) out on the TR3650 for the syncros. If its still under warranty Id take it in.

its not under warranty anymore , its got 56k on it , and i hope its not the syncros

Garhfer · July 7th, 2007, 01:09 PM

Sounds like synchros to me...

xedubx · July 7th, 2007, 01:19 PM

what is the syncros? my car makes a lot of clicking going into second. i thought it sounds like the noise and clicking feeling were coming from the shifter area and that i just need to change the shifter out to an aftermarket... but are those signs of a syncros problem? or shitty stock shifter problem? the cars got 61k on it...

WAVEBYE · July 7th, 2007, 01:30 PM

if you wind up needing to replace anything too expensive, i got my old 3650 for sale. i'm probably gonna let it go for cheap since i just want it gone. it's in perfect condition.

PM me when you find out something.

Garhfer · July 7th, 2007, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by xedubx

what is the syncros? my car makes a lot of clicking going into second. i thought it sounds like the noise and clicking feeling were coming from the shifter area and that i just need to change the shifter out to an aftermarket... but are those signs of a syncros problem? or shitty stock shifter problem? the cars got 61k on it...

That's just your transmission functioning like it's "supposed to"

KhaosGT · July 7th, 2007, 11:22 PM

yea same thing happend in my cousins mach...only his was synchros and shift forks

03 R Code · July 7th, 2007, 11:26 PM

If you were getting 2.3 60's then you'll be in the 12's no problem with better tires. +1 on the suck ass stock tires.

I think it's your syncro's too. Mine haven't messed up in this car yet, but in my first mustang they were going out between 1&2 and it sounded like what your experiencing.

banned · July 8th, 2007, 12:05 AM

why mad about times? those are about dead on for average stocker, give or take a 1/10 or 2

weems · July 8th, 2007, 12:50 AM

its just fucking bullshit because i paid so much for the car and i havent even had it two weeks and i have already had to pull the thermostat , replace the brakes , got a ticket for my windows being too dark and now i have to fix the fucking transmission , not to mention a dealership sold me a car that wont even pass emissions

weems · July 8th, 2007, 01:58 AM

dont you have like a automatic 30 day period to return a car or like a 30 day warranty?

SWEET2KSTANG · July 8th, 2007, 02:13 AM

yes, it is called the lemon law.

weems · July 8th, 2007, 02:15 AM

but i didnt buy the vehicle new , the lemon law says only new vehicles

but i still have a 30 day grace period?

xedubx · July 8th, 2007, 03:07 AM

so not to sound paranoid but we're sayin my car is having a syncros problem or just weems sounds like its got a problem?

im clueless when it comes to transmissions...

neckbonekat · July 8th, 2007, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by weems

its just fucking bullshit because i paid so much for the car and i havent even had it two weeks and i have already had to pull the thermostat , replace the brakes , got a ticket for my windows being too dark and now i have to fix the fucking transmission , not to mention a dealership sold me a car that wont even pass emissions

...But you still bought it. I believe the saying is "Caveat emptor". You knew it wouldn't pass inspection and it is your fault you didn't make them pay for those little things especially if they went bad in the first two weeks. As for the transmission the dealer will say you rode it too hard, especially if they find out you were at the track. That is still a sweet car and just think of the stuff you are doing now as preventive maintenance for the future.

03 R Code · July 8th, 2007, 09:53 AM

I'm not positive on this, but I don't think a dealership can sell you a car that won't pass emissions. They have to have the car registered for you when they sell it to you, and part of being registered is passing any appilcable emmisions laws...

The 30 day "cool down" period varies from state to state. I know in TX they don't allow a cool down period, and your stuck with it from the first day on. I would contact the dealer and let them know what's going on with it and have them do the emissions test. Then you can use that as ammo when you hire a lawyer!

neckbonekat · July 8th, 2007, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by 03 R Code

I'm not positive on this, but I don't think a dealership can sell you a car that won't pass emissions. They have to have the car registered for you when they sell it to you, and part of being registered is passing any appilcable emmisions laws...

The 30 day "cool down" period varies from state to state. I know in TX they don't allow a cool down period, and your stuck with it from the first day on. I would contact the dealer and let them know what's going on with it and have them do the emissions test. Then you can use that as ammo when you hire a lawyer!

Im'm willing to bet the car already has a inspection sticker on it. Again, as long as they informed him before he signed the papers it's not thier fault. Used car dealers sell cars "as is". They did him a favor by giving him his first inspection without alot of bull because they didn't have to, but he probably would have still purchaed the car.

July 7th, 2007, 12:41 PM	#1
weems Tech Exchange Head Honcho 2003 SVT Cobra 11.70 @ 121 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Forsyth/Statesboro, GA Posts: 9,176 iTrader: 3 reviews	Grinding after the track We'll im going to start off saying I was not impressed at the track, my best was a 13.56 at 106 and I was expecting better , even though it was hot and humid I cant seeing it making that much difference. Anyways the whole time I was at the track the car was running fine but as soon as I hopped in it to leave it started grinding like a bitch anytime I go into second gear. Im thinking its the syncros but I wanted to get some more opinions.

July 7th, 2007, 12:49 PM	#2
MATT02GT The Mean Green Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colo. Springs, CO Posts: 4,164 iTrader: 1 reviews	That could be it. Ford has a TSB (not a recall) out on the TR3650 for the syncros. If its still under warranty Id take it in. __________________ Its not how fast you drive, but how you drive fast. 2002 Mustang GT... Just The Usual Bolt-Ons Bolt on list in Garage..

July 7th, 2007, 12:57 PM	#3
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,104 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well, I don't know what is wrong with your gears, but I do know that with a 106mph trap speed, you could get 12's. What were your 60' and 1/8th time and mph? __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

July 7th, 2007, 01:09 PM	#6
Garhfer Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Conv. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edgewater, FL Posts: 1,793 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sounds like synchros to me... __________________ 2004 GT Boosted by Vortech

July 7th, 2007, 01:19 PM	#7
xedubx Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lonestarville Posts: 68 iTrader: 0 reviews	what is the syncros? my car makes a lot of clicking going into second. i thought it sounds like the noise and clicking feeling were coming from the shifter area and that i just need to change the shifter out to an aftermarket... but are those signs of a syncros problem? or shitty stock shifter problem? the cars got 61k on it... __________________ Go Baby Go!

July 7th, 2007, 01:05 PM	#4
weems Tech Exchange Head Honcho 2003 SVT Cobra 11.70 @ 121 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Forsyth/Statesboro, GA Posts: 9,176 iTrader: 3 reviews	the 1/8th time was 9 flat, not sure of the speed , the slips are in the car but my 60 was anywhere between 2.2-2.3 , btw eagle f1's suck

July 7th, 2007, 01:30 PM	#8
WAVEBYE Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mustang GT Twin Turbo 10.43 @ 139mph Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southaven,MS Posts: 1,471 iTrader: 0 reviews	if you wind up needing to replace anything too expensive, i got my old 3650 for sale. i'm probably gonna let it go for cheap since i just want it gone. it's in perfect condition. PM me when you find out something. __________________ Nobody gonna take my car Im gonna race it to the ground Nobody gonna beat my car Its gonna break the speed of sound Oooh its a killing machine Its got everything Like a driving power big fat tires And everything - Deep Purple

July 7th, 2007, 11:22 PM	#10
KhaosGT Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 970 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea same thing happend in my cousins mach...only his was synchros and shift forks __________________ 2004 Black Mustang Gt When I see a 5.0...I respect my elders.

July 7th, 2007, 11:26 PM	#11
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,104 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you were getting 2.3 60's then you'll be in the 12's no problem with better tires. +1 on the suck ass stock tires. I think it's your syncro's too. Mine haven't messed up in this car yet, but in my first mustang they were going out between 1&2 and it sounded like what your experiencing. __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

July 8th, 2007, 12:05 AM	#12
banned Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 461 iTrader: 0 reviews	why mad about times? those are about dead on for average stocker, give or take a 1/10 or 2 __________________ Considering selling my car to fund my race car: take a look and tell me what you think. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post1041280

July 8th, 2007, 12:50 AM	#13
weems Tech Exchange Head Honcho 2003 SVT Cobra 11.70 @ 121 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Forsyth/Statesboro, GA Posts: 9,176 iTrader: 3 reviews	its just fucking bullshit because i paid so much for the car and i havent even had it two weeks and i have already had to pull the thermostat , replace the brakes , got a ticket for my windows being too dark and now i have to fix the fucking transmission , not to mention a dealership sold me a car that wont even pass emissions

July 8th, 2007, 01:58 AM	#14
weems Tech Exchange Head Honcho 2003 SVT Cobra 11.70 @ 121 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Forsyth/Statesboro, GA Posts: 9,176 iTrader: 3 reviews	dont you have like a automatic 30 day period to return a car or like a 30 day warranty?

July 8th, 2007, 02:13 AM	#15
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	yes, it is called the lemon law. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

July 8th, 2007, 02:15 AM	#16
weems Tech Exchange Head Honcho 2003 SVT Cobra 11.70 @ 121 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Forsyth/Statesboro, GA Posts: 9,176 iTrader: 3 reviews	but i didnt buy the vehicle new , the lemon law says only new vehicles but i still have a 30 day grace period?

July 8th, 2007, 03:07 AM	#17
xedubx Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lonestarville Posts: 68 iTrader: 0 reviews	so not to sound paranoid but we're sayin my car is having a syncros problem or just weems sounds like its got a problem? im clueless when it comes to transmissions... __________________ Go Baby Go!

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July 8th, 2007, 09:53 AM	#19
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,104 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'm not positive on this, but I don't think a dealership can sell you a car that won't pass emissions. They have to have the car registered for you when they sell it to you, and part of being registered is passing any appilcable emmisions laws... The 30 day "cool down" period varies from state to state. I know in TX they don't allow a cool down period, and your stuck with it from the first day on. I would contact the dealer and let them know what's going on with it and have them do the emissions test. Then you can use that as ammo when you hire a lawyer! __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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