How can I add a Sub to the Mach 460?

mustangmanic · July 18th, 2007, 10:33 AM

Ok, well its going to be too much money than its worth to just buy a new headunit b/c of the amp and speaker bypass bull, but i was wondering if there is some kind of wireing harness or sumthing that allows you to add an external sub amp to the mach 460 stereo. I know you can get the mtx thunderform 10'' 4500 powered enclousure but thats around $500!! i want something like a 12'' MB Quart for sound quality and light. So is there a way to do this where i dont have to spend $200 on somebody installing some bullcrap bypass to the stock amps?

G.T. Rags · July 18th, 2007, 10:49 AM

it depends on how u want ur stereo set up.

U can leave the stock amps and speakers, get a hi/low converter, splice it into the line(when i say splice i don't mean cut and tape, use kirmpers) and that should allow u to run a signal to a aftermarket amp and subs using the stock head unit and stock speakers.
I would suggest running a seperate gain control, because u won't be able to control the bass sep from all the speakers. if ur sub is on level 10 bass then so are the normal speakers. With a sep gain control u can program the deck so the stock speakers don't blow, and then use the control to adjust bass accordingly.
I've seen this done with stock navigation units as well as regular stock decks.

Garhfer · July 18th, 2007, 11:07 AM

http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/fcar/despeeds1.htm

mustangmanic · July 18th, 2007, 04:46 PM

have any of you actually done this? added a sub and amp to their mach 460?

Garhfer · July 18th, 2007, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by mustangmanic

have any of you actually done this? added a sub and amp to their mach 460?

No, so tell me how it goes and I might follow your footsteps

fhinesley · July 18th, 2007, 05:59 PM

I tried to do it...or my stereo shop did. It is actually not practical. The 460 unit is just not compatible. They tried 4 different ways. The main problem seems to be with how the amps driving the 460 system react with adding another amp for the sub. They even did try the gain control but I ended having to adjust the gain for every song. In the end the quality sucked. I just had them rip out the whole system and put in what I wanted

G.T. Rags · July 18th, 2007, 06:32 PM

my friends got a 1800 watt kenwood amp powering 2 jl audio w2's. It'll work, u just need to have patients. And the reason the gain control is there is because ur going to need to adjust every song manually. I have one rigged with my aftermarket setup. After u pass a certain amount of power bass for one song sounds like crap for another. Its not really that hard, just a twist of a dial...

mustangmanic · July 18th, 2007, 07:11 PM

so pretty much what you guys r saying is its more trouble than its worth? Damn i hate the Mach system!!! Don't get me wrong, it does sound good, but it has no bass response at all!!! and when it does it distorts and almost blows! So i've come to my conclusion... since the bass blows on the mach 460, the mach 460 blows. I may just go on ebay and buy a the mach 1000 subs and sub amps to add becuase i've heard of people doing that and the 1000 sounds damn good, not too loud but just right.

Garhfer · July 18th, 2007, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by mustangmanic

so pretty much what you guys r saying is its more trouble than its worth? Damn i hate the Mach system!!! Don't get me wrong, it does sound good, but it has no bass response at all!!! and when it does it distorts and almost blows! So i've come to my conclusion... since the bass blows on the mach 460, the mach 460 blows. I may just go on ebay and buy a the mach 1000 subs and sub amps to add becuase i've heard of people doing that and the 1000 sounds damn good, not too loud but just right.

If you're gonna go through the hassle just put a real stereo system in it... I doubt the mach 1000 will be any better get away from the stock crap and put a real system in and be happy...

mustangmanic · July 18th, 2007, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by Garhfer

Originally Posted by mustangmanic

so pretty much what you guys r saying is its more trouble than its worth? Damn i hate the Mach system!!! Don't get me wrong, it does sound good, but it has no bass response at all!!! and when it does it distorts and almost blows! So i've come to my conclusion... since the bass blows on the mach 460, the mach 460 blows. I may just go on ebay and buy a the mach 1000 subs and sub amps to add becuase i've heard of people doing that and the 1000 sounds damn good, not too loud but just right.

If you're gonna go through the hassle just put a real stereo system in it... I doubt the mach 1000 will be any better get away from the stock crap and put a real system in and be happy...

yeah you're right. I would if i could afford it... i mean a headunit is cake to install on a normal freakin vehicle but if i do that then i'm going to have to install new speaker amps, and speakers for it to sound right... thats about $400 right there. Then on top of that, a subwoofer amp and actual sub, about 300-400 also. i mean i just dont have the money for a stereo system right now. I'm only 17 and have a job that only pays $7.00/hr and most of that goes towards gas lol. I wouldnt be complaining if i were used to the "plain" speakers, but i'm used to my truck which has an 15'' MTX 9500 and a MTX 1501d 1500rms amp and everything else aftermarket stereo wise... I'm used to the best stuff money can buy but now its not just a step down, its like a fall off a building comparing the mach to my truck lol... i mean i'm not hateing on the mach but i'm just used to better... o well though, i shouldnt worry about audio in a mustang anyways. Its a freakin mustang, a muscle car damnit so thats wat i'm gonna make it... eff the stereo. I'm puttin my money into performance!

SilverStang03 · August 5th, 2007, 01:53 AM

I used to work in car audio, and honestly for the money you would pay on a mach 1000, you might as well pay a little extra and get something good. when all is said and done, the mach audio system is still pressed paper, which is gay and easy to blow. if you want a good sound for not alot of money, go for some polk audio db series speakers with an alpine four channel amplifier, then for the bass, choose what type of sub you would like, and match it up with the right amp. polk dbs are like 150 a piece maximum, check crutchfield, you will need 5x7s, (ford lists them as 6x8s wtf??) and the amp will be around 200. a deck install is just a matter of buying a deck, wiring harness and dash kit. labor at my store was 45 for the deck and 30 for the amp bypass.

AnglicoGT98 · August 5th, 2007, 01:50 PM

Just upgrade the sound system....modding the 460 is a PITA and just shouldn't be done. It will never sound as good. If you're concerned about prices check this site out. I have ordered from them before and they're a good company. www.onlinecarstereo.com check them out

06RedfireGT · August 5th, 2007, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Garhfer

Originally Posted by mustangmanic

so pretty much what you guys r saying is its more trouble than its worth? Damn i hate the Mach system!!! Don't get me wrong, it does sound good, but it has no bass response at all!!! and when it does it distorts and almost blows! So i've come to my conclusion... since the bass blows on the mach 460, the mach 460 blows. I may just go on ebay and buy a the mach 1000 subs and sub amps to add becuase i've heard of people doing that and the 1000 sounds damn good, not too loud but just right.

If you're gonna go through the hassle just put a real stereo system in it... I doubt the mach 1000 will be any better get away from the stock crap and put a real system in and be happy...

The Shaker 1000 (Mach 1000 equivelent) in my car sounds awesome. I don't know how it compares to the Mach 1000 but if its anything like it, it will be less hassle and still sound good.

B0B · August 5th, 2007, 02:35 PM

i installed a 12 inch sub using my mach 460 system and it sounds GREAT! anyone who hasn't actually successfully installed this shouldnt talk bad about it because you dont know how it sounds. it isnt that hard to do, the steps in the link from mustang world will get you on the right track. having a remote bass control makes it much much better than not having one, but it will still sound good if you get your adjustments right. the amp and sub combination in my car hits hard when its turned up and when i want to turn the bass way down or even off all i just turn the remote bass knob down. i dont even have to mess with my stereo controls.

Garhfer · August 5th, 2007, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by 06RedfireGT

Originally Posted by Garhfer

Originally Posted by mustangmanic

so pretty much what you guys r saying is its more trouble than its worth? Damn i hate the Mach system!!! Don't get me wrong, it does sound good, but it has no bass response at all!!! and when it does it distorts and almost blows! So i've come to my conclusion... since the bass blows on the mach 460, the mach 460 blows. I may just go on ebay and buy a the mach 1000 subs and sub amps to add becuase i've heard of people doing that and the 1000 sounds damn good, not too loud but just right.

If you're gonna go through the hassle just put a real stereo system in it... I doubt the mach 1000 will be any better get away from the stock crap and put a real system in and be happy...

The Shaker 1000 (Mach 1000 equivelent) in my car sounds awesome. I don't know how it compares to the Mach 1000 but if its anything like it, it will be less hassle and still sound good.

You think a stock system compares to one that's custom built? I don't, aftermarket stereo systems blow the factory premiums out of the water...

Smoothgrandmama · August 5th, 2007, 03:34 PM

hey that shaker 1000 system is an awesome syestem
They put freakin' subs in Your Door and the trunk along with the 6 other audiophile speakers

TheUNZippee! · August 5th, 2007, 10:25 PM

The shaker 1000 is indeed an awesome system...for a factory system. If I took you for a spin through my system, though, you wouldn't even be able to spell shaker 1000.

2200 watts, 2 dual voice coil 3000 watt Alpine Type-X's, two Pioneer 8's, and a Rockford Fosgate 6.5" component set in the doors. This thing will blow buckets of air past your head when it gets jacked up.

B0B · August 5th, 2007, 10:49 PM

damn thats a nice setup man..

Garhfer · August 5th, 2007, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Bob17830

damn thats a nice setup man..

+1

TheUNZippee! · August 5th, 2007, 10:51 PM

Thanks guys

July 18th, 2007, 10:33 AM	#1
mustangmanic MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT 13.334 @ 106.27 w/2.01 60' Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 3,107 iTrader: 2 reviews	How can I add a Sub to the Mach 460? Ok, well its going to be too much money than its worth to just buy a new headunit b/c of the amp and speaker bypass bull, but i was wondering if there is some kind of wireing harness or sumthing that allows you to add an external sub amp to the mach 460 stereo. I know you can get the mtx thunderform 10'' 4500 powered enclousure but thats around $500!! i want something like a 12'' MB Quart for sound quality and light. So is there a way to do this where i dont have to spend $200 on somebody installing some bullcrap bypass to the stock amps? __________________

July 18th, 2007, 11:07 AM	#3
Garhfer Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Conv. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edgewater, FL Posts: 1,793 iTrader: 0 reviews	http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/fcar/despeeds1.htm __________________ 2004 GT Boosted by Vortech

July 18th, 2007, 04:46 PM	#4
mustangmanic MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT 13.334 @ 106.27 w/2.01 60' Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 3,107 iTrader: 2 reviews	have any of you actually done this? added a sub and amp to their mach 460? __________________

July 18th, 2007, 05:59 PM	#6
fhinesley Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 43 iTrader: 0 reviews	done it I tried to do it...or my stereo shop did. It is actually not practical. The 460 unit is just not compatible. They tried 4 different ways. The main problem seems to be with how the amps driving the 460 system react with adding another amp for the sub. They even did try the gain control but I ended having to adjust the gain for every song. In the end the quality sucked. I just had them rip out the whole system and put in what I wanted

July 18th, 2007, 07:11 PM	#8
mustangmanic MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT 13.334 @ 106.27 w/2.01 60' Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 3,107 iTrader: 2 reviews	so pretty much what you guys r saying is its more trouble than its worth? Damn i hate the Mach system!!! Don't get me wrong, it does sound good, but it has no bass response at all!!! and when it does it distorts and almost blows! So i've come to my conclusion... since the bass blows on the mach 460, the mach 460 blows. I may just go on ebay and buy a the mach 1000 subs and sub amps to add becuase i've heard of people doing that and the 1000 sounds damn good, not too loud but just right. __________________

August 5th, 2007, 01:53 AM	#11
SilverStang03 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mustang Gt Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Barrington RI Posts: 1,292 iTrader: 0 reviews	I used to work in car audio, and honestly for the money you would pay on a mach 1000, you might as well pay a little extra and get something good. when all is said and done, the mach audio system is still pressed paper, which is gay and easy to blow. if you want a good sound for not alot of money, go for some polk audio db series speakers with an alpine four channel amplifier, then for the bass, choose what type of sub you would like, and match it up with the right amp. polk dbs are like 150 a piece maximum, check crutchfield, you will need 5x7s, (ford lists them as 6x8s wtf??) and the amp will be around 200. a deck install is just a matter of buying a deck, wiring harness and dash kit. labor at my store was 45 for the deck and 30 for the amp bypass. __________________

August 5th, 2007, 01:50 PM	#12
AnglicoGT98 Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 630 iTrader: 2 reviews	Just upgrade the sound system....modding the 460 is a PITA and just shouldn't be done. It will never sound as good. If you're concerned about prices check this site out. I have ordered from them before and they're a good company. www.onlinecarstereo.com check them out __________________ Parting out 2003 SVT Cobra Air/Fuel http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html Engine http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html

August 5th, 2007, 02:35 PM	#14
B0B Boost gets you laid 2001 Mustang GT 12.93@113.7 (on the 18's) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milton, WA Posts: 2,609 iTrader: 2 reviews	i installed a 12 inch sub using my mach 460 system and it sounds GREAT! anyone who hasn't actually successfully installed this shouldnt talk bad about it because you dont know how it sounds. it isnt that hard to do, the steps in the link from mustang world will get you on the right track. having a remote bass control makes it much much better than not having one, but it will still sound good if you get your adjustments right. the amp and sub combination in my car hits hard when its turned up and when i want to turn the bass way down or even off all i just turn the remote bass knob down. i dont even have to mess with my stereo controls. __________________ '01 GT. Just a couple Bolt-ons. 0rwhp 0rwtq. Epic Turbo build in progress 2003 Rubicon (wheelin rig) 2008 Silverado 4x4 (towin rig/road queen) 2009 KTM 450 XC-W (Brap Brap!)

August 5th, 2007, 03:34 PM	#16
Smoothgrandmama Assistant to the Manager 12 GT 8.46@88 1/8 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Willis,Texas Posts: 7,157 iTrader: 6 reviews	hey that shaker 1000 system is an awesome syestem They put freakin' subs in Your Door and the trunk along with the 6 other audiophile speakers __________________ Join The MM Facebook: Modded Mustangs Facebook Vote For Modded Mustangs Ride of the Month Eskimo Brothers To Smooth: Safi, Blitz34, Graystang01, WillTheThrill, Bwal, 101Fng

August 5th, 2007, 10:49 PM	#18
B0B Boost gets you laid 2001 Mustang GT 12.93@113.7 (on the 18's) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milton, WA Posts: 2,609 iTrader: 2 reviews	damn thats a nice setup man.. __________________ '01 GT. Just a couple Bolt-ons. 0rwhp 0rwtq. Epic Turbo build in progress 2003 Rubicon (wheelin rig) 2008 Silverado 4x4 (towin rig/road queen) 2009 KTM 450 XC-W (Brap Brap!)

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How can I add a Sub to the Mach 460?

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