My engine just took a dump!

Badasstang281 · July 20th, 2007, 10:14 PM

good luck man hope you get it fix fast

03 R Code · July 20th, 2007, 10:22 PM

Detonation isn't smoke. You ever buy cheap gas and run your car hard on a hot day? If so you would probably hear the engine "pinging", or rattling. This is from the fuel and air igniting too soon before top dead center. That causes the piston rings to rattle and the piston itself to slap around inside the cylinder...

weems · July 20th, 2007, 11:20 PM

man i really hate to hear this , i really hope everything works out for you....

C MY 4D · July 20th, 2007, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78

Good lord... I'm def not mechanically inclined. Wish I was. How can you tell of detonation? besides smoke I guess.

Best was to describe it...... It sounds like shaking a can of marbles.

orangeRcode · July 21st, 2007, 12:21 AM

Like has been mentioned, sounds like head gaskets. The accident probably has nothing to do with this. I would bet it has more to do with the giggle juice you have fed her. Let us know how it goes. I just helped a buddy degree in his Fr500 cams. It was time consuming due to the engine being in the car. Would have pobably saved us time if we pulled the engine. This is a good sized job but is doable in the garage with the help of a knowledgable friend and the right tools. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

acmillr · July 21st, 2007, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by 03 R Code

Not really sure...

So, who lives in Orlando and has good mechanical skills? I need some help!

I'm in Tampa, but it doesn't sound like you will be able to drive your car down here.

03 R Code · July 21st, 2007, 09:50 AM

Nope. I'm hoping it's much less than a head gasket... We'll see this afternoon.

03 R Code · July 21st, 2007, 12:29 PM

I just got off the phone with Lamotta, they don't think it's a head gasket. From what the guy on the phone said they've only had 1 4.6 come in with a blown head gasket. This includes their shop race car that runs 22psi on stock head gaskets... This is good news for now, but I still gotta figure out what's causing the problems...

flattusmaximus78 · July 21st, 2007, 04:37 PM

I hope it has nothing to do with the juice... that makes me feel nervous.

03 R Code · July 21st, 2007, 05:22 PM

Just got done with today's tinkering (it's about to rain) and I'm still not sure what's going on. The spark plugs were fine, I think it was in my head but the first 2 i checked had the slightest most unnoticeable amount of a shade of green. Like I said I think it's in my head. Put them all back in and buttoned everything up. I decided to crank it to see what would happen. Started up fine, and idle's like a champ. I checked the coolant levels and it was low, like 2 gallons low! Filled it back up and restarted the engine. I let it warm up to full operating temp and until the fan came on. Never went past 180*... Same as yesterday. I would give it some gas and watch the back of the car and I didn't see any smoking. Decided the problem was fixed and started puting the shaker back on. Went to the trunk to put the tools up and that's when I noticed there was a puddle of water directly below each tail pipe and water was dripping pretty steadily from the inside of the exhaust. Went and checked the temp gauge, still normal...edit: I shut the engine off at this point and haven't restarted since.

So that's where I'm at for now. I don't know exactly what this means, but it would seem to me more and more like a blown head gasket. But after talking with the shop some more, they still don't think that's it. According to them if the car was overheating the coolant woudl be getting blown out of the radiator cap. This wasn't happening. I'm not sure where to go from here, but I think I'm just gonna let her sit until I figure out exactly what it is, and can afford to fix it.

If this helps anyone with diagnosing my problems please speak up! I need the help!

02Gt Stang · September 3rd, 2007, 12:42 AM

Hey just wondering if you ever got your head gaskets fixed. i had the same problem last night at the track. i did my first ever run with my blower which is only making 4 pounds of boost and ran a 13.9 with 103mph than my second run was a 14.1 with an 83 mph , it felt as though i missed a gear going into fourth towards the end, my car just shook and turned off as i coasted across. i got my car towed home and its smoking white exhaust. My wideband is reading super rich, off the charts rich. and it idles really bad, 100rpm than 500 rpm than 100 rpm than off in like a second. So im gonna replace my head gaskets sometime this winter while my car just sits in the garage till i know what im going to do with it.

July 20th, 2007, 10:14 PM	#21
Badasstang281 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 385 iTrader: 0 reviews	good luck man hope you get it fix fast __________________ BBK cai P&P 75mmtb P&P plenum BASSANI exhaust MAC x-pipe NO CAT"S ACCEL direct fire coils NGK iridium spark plugs lX7 Eibach pro-kit springs

July 20th, 2007, 10:22 PM	#22
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,104 iTrader: 0 reviews	Detonation isn't smoke. You ever buy cheap gas and run your car hard on a hot day? If so you would probably hear the engine "pinging", or rattling. This is from the fuel and air igniting too soon before top dead center. That causes the piston rings to rattle and the piston itself to slap around inside the cylinder... __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

July 21st, 2007, 12:21 AM	#25
orangeRcode Hardcore Enthusiast 11.21@123 -150 shot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mustang/Yukon, OK Posts: 1,828 iTrader: 1 reviews	Like has been mentioned, sounds like head gaskets. The accident probably has nothing to do with this. I would bet it has more to do with the giggle juice you have fed her. Let us know how it goes. I just helped a buddy degree in his Fr500 cams. It was time consuming due to the engine being in the car. Would have pobably saved us time if we pulled the engine. This is a good sized job but is doable in the garage with the help of a knowledgable friend and the right tools. Good luck and let us know how it goes. __________________

July 21st, 2007, 09:50 AM	#27
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,104 iTrader: 0 reviews	Nope. I'm hoping it's much less than a head gasket... We'll see this afternoon. __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

July 21st, 2007, 12:29 PM	#28
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,104 iTrader: 0 reviews	I just got off the phone with Lamotta, they don't think it's a head gasket. From what the guy on the phone said they've only had 1 4.6 come in with a blown head gasket. This includes their shop race car that runs 22psi on stock head gaskets... This is good news for now, but I still gotta figure out what's causing the problems... __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

July 20th, 2007, 11:20 PM	#23
weems Tech Exchange Head Honcho 2003 SVT Cobra 11.70 @ 121 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Forsyth/Statesboro, GA Posts: 9,176 iTrader: 3 reviews	man i really hate to hear this , i really hope everything works out for you....

July 21st, 2007, 04:37 PM	#29
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,122 iTrader: 3 reviews	I hope it has nothing to do with the juice... that makes me feel nervous. __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

July 21st, 2007, 05:22 PM	#30
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,104 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just got done with today's tinkering (it's about to rain) and I'm still not sure what's going on. The spark plugs were fine, I think it was in my head but the first 2 i checked had the slightest most unnoticeable amount of a shade of green. Like I said I think it's in my head. Put them all back in and buttoned everything up. I decided to crank it to see what would happen. Started up fine, and idle's like a champ. I checked the coolant levels and it was low, like 2 gallons low! Filled it back up and restarted the engine. I let it warm up to full operating temp and until the fan came on. Never went past 180*... Same as yesterday. I would give it some gas and watch the back of the car and I didn't see any smoking. Decided the problem was fixed and started puting the shaker back on. Went to the trunk to put the tools up and that's when I noticed there was a puddle of water directly below each tail pipe and water was dripping pretty steadily from the inside of the exhaust. Went and checked the temp gauge, still normal...edit: I shut the engine off at this point and haven't restarted since. So that's where I'm at for now. I don't know exactly what this means, but it would seem to me more and more like a blown head gasket. But after talking with the shop some more, they still don't think that's it. According to them if the car was overheating the coolant woudl be getting blown out of the radiator cap. This wasn't happening. I'm not sure where to go from here, but I think I'm just gonna let her sit until I figure out exactly what it is, and can afford to fix it. If this helps anyone with diagnosing my problems please speak up! I need the help! __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

September 3rd, 2007, 12:42 AM	#31
02Gt Stang Regular 2002 Mustang GT 13.6@102 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 127 iTrader: 0 reviews	Hey just wondering if you ever got your head gaskets fixed. i had the same problem last night at the track. i did my first ever run with my blower which is only making 4 pounds of boost and ran a 13.9 with 103mph than my second run was a 14.1 with an 83 mph , it felt as though i missed a gear going into fourth towards the end, my car just shook and turned off as i coasted across. i got my car towed home and its smoking white exhaust. My wideband is reading super rich, off the charts rich. and it idles really bad, 100rpm than 500 rpm than 100 rpm than off in like a second. So im gonna replace my head gaskets sometime this winter while my car just sits in the garage till i know what im going to do with it. __________________ Procharged 383 rwhp/ 391 rwtq

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