My engine just took a dump!

03 R Code · July 20th, 2007, 09:24 PM

I need some help.

I went to the local car wash to try and shine up the new wheels for some nice photos. Went for a cruise to find a nice spot for pics. Half way there, less than a 3 mile drive, the car started detonating and white smoke was coming out of the exhaust. I killed the engine and popped the hood to see if the radiator had decided to give up on me again. Nope, nothing out of the ordinary under there. Let it sit for a while and headed home. Things were fine for the first mile or so. Then I started noticing a TON of white smoke coming from the back. Smelled like radiator fluid too. I stopped waiting to turn left into a gas station and the car just died on me. After about 10 secs of "dieseling". I popped the hood again and nothing strange. The temp gauge never went over 180*... After a few minutes I opened the radiator cap, slowly, and nothing happened. went to sit in the drivers seat and before I got out of site of the cap, it burped! There was a ton of air in there and it all came out at the same time... I waited a few more minutes, put the cap back on shut the hood and headed home. On the drive home things were o.k. for the first half mile or so. Then she started detonating heavily in the lower rpm's. I would push the gas pedal in further and it would stop, then on engine deceleration the white smoke would start billowing out. I got to the house and she just stuttered a few times and died on me...

I just bought a full tank of gas from an Exxon station. So I don't think it's bad gas, unless someone put something in my tank...

Any ideas? Please help me!

C MY 4D · July 20th, 2007, 09:27 PM

my bet is a head gasket

Garhfer · July 20th, 2007, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by C MY 4D

my bet is a head gasket

+1 sounds like a head gasket to me, it usually has white smoke at normal operating temperatures. It is caused by the head gasket shrinking and allowing coolant in the combustion chamber.

03 R Code · July 20th, 2007, 09:35 PM

I though of that, but how? I never got over 3k rpm's and it ran without a problem yesterday when I got it out of the shop and cruised around for probably 45 minutes... Drove to and from work today and there weren't any problems.

Garhfer · July 20th, 2007, 09:36 PM

Has it ever overheated? if so maybe the problem just got big enough to start causing problems...

HMUSN · July 20th, 2007, 09:37 PM

what color is the smoke?

Garhfer · July 20th, 2007, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

what color is the smoke?

He said it was white.

C MY 4D · July 20th, 2007, 09:42 PM

that oil or antifreeze.... more than like antifreeze..... pull some plugs and see if they have a green tint. pull the dipstick and check for water. pull the antifreeze cap off and check for oil. if those don't tell you, pull the front 02's and check for a green tint. Do a compression check.

HMUSN · July 20th, 2007, 09:42 PM

hmm.. well that sucks...

if the coolant levels ae ok and it's blowing white smoke ... you have a leak in one of your head gaskets or your intake manifold.

03 R Code · July 20th, 2007, 09:49 PM

That's what I don't want to hear. It was all white smoke, and smelled heavily of engine coolant. I'll have to pull the plugs tomorrow since it's dark here, and I still have to work in the morning.

Badasstang281 · July 20th, 2007, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by 03 R Code

I though of that, but how? I never got over 3k rpm's and it ran without a problem yesterday when I got it out of the shop and cruised around for probably 45 minutes... Drove to and from work today and there weren't any problems.

You said you just got it out of the shop what did you have done to it?

03 R Code · July 20th, 2007, 10:22 PM

I hydroplaned and hit a curb two Fridays ago. That's why I got the new gas, cause it sat in the drive way for over 2 weeks. The engine ran fine to the shop, back home from the shop and when I was cruising around yesterday...

No engine work was done.

Badasstang281 · July 20th, 2007, 10:28 PM

Sh!t man that sucks A$$. You don’t have a warranty. I think it is your head gaskets what’s sucks is you have to pull your top end off right?

03 R Code · July 20th, 2007, 10:34 PM

Not sure... Never had to change a head gasket on my Mach... Hope I never do!

Garhfer · July 20th, 2007, 10:35 PM

yeah he'd have to pull off the heads (valve covers, cams, intake manifold, water pump, headers, heads, timing cover and then line up TDC and all with the cams and crap... lol easier with pushrod engines because they only have one cam... and the cam is underneath the head instead of ontop... a lot of work but can be done)

Badasstang281 · July 20th, 2007, 10:41 PM

if i was you I would be crying. Sh!t man if you have the $$$$ do the heads. Modulars don’t flow air good.

03 R Code · July 20th, 2007, 10:44 PM

4v's do! But thats at the bottom of the list right now... I just want to be able to cruise around without killing it!

Badasstang281 · July 20th, 2007, 10:59 PM

Off topic but what do 4v flow with performance heads? My friend and rival is building a 383 and his heads flow 278cc with a .550 lift I think

03 R Code · July 20th, 2007, 11:09 PM

Not really sure...

So, who lives in Orlando and has good mechanical skills? I need some help!

flattusmaximus78 · July 20th, 2007, 11:14 PM

Good lord... I'm def not mechanically inclined. Wish I was. How can you tell of detonation? besides smoke I guess.

July 20th, 2007, 09:24 PM	#1
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,103 iTrader: 0 reviews	My engine just took a dump! I need some help. I went to the local car wash to try and shine up the new wheels for some nice photos. Went for a cruise to find a nice spot for pics. Half way there, less than a 3 mile drive, the car started detonating and white smoke was coming out of the exhaust. I killed the engine and popped the hood to see if the radiator had decided to give up on me again. Nope, nothing out of the ordinary under there. Let it sit for a while and headed home. Things were fine for the first mile or so. Then I started noticing a TON of white smoke coming from the back. Smelled like radiator fluid too. I stopped waiting to turn left into a gas station and the car just died on me. After about 10 secs of "dieseling". I popped the hood again and nothing strange. The temp gauge never went over 180*... After a few minutes I opened the radiator cap, slowly, and nothing happened. went to sit in the drivers seat and before I got out of site of the cap, it burped! There was a ton of air in there and it all came out at the same time... I waited a few more minutes, put the cap back on shut the hood and headed home. On the drive home things were o.k. for the first half mile or so. Then she started detonating heavily in the lower rpm's. I would push the gas pedal in further and it would stop, then on engine deceleration the white smoke would start billowing out. I got to the house and she just stuttered a few times and died on me... I just bought a full tank of gas from an Exxon station. So I don't think it's bad gas, unless someone put something in my tank... Any ideas? Please help me! __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

July 20th, 2007, 09:27 PM	#2
C MY 4D Billy Weston 2003 Cobra 11.14@124.36 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hampton, VA Posts: 4,794 iTrader: 7 reviews	my bet is a head gasket __________________ TT Build in progress....... Need work done to your car for a great price in Hampton Roads? Shoot me a PM.

July 20th, 2007, 09:35 PM	#4
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,103 iTrader: 0 reviews	I though of that, but how? I never got over 3k rpm's and it ran without a problem yesterday when I got it out of the shop and cruised around for probably 45 minutes... Drove to and from work today and there weren't any problems. __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

July 20th, 2007, 09:36 PM	#5
Garhfer Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Conv. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edgewater, FL Posts: 1,790 iTrader: 0 reviews	Has it ever overheated? if so maybe the problem just got big enough to start causing problems... __________________ 2004 GT Boosted by Vortech

July 20th, 2007, 09:37 PM	#6
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	what color is the smoke? __________________

July 20th, 2007, 09:42 PM	#8
C MY 4D Billy Weston 2003 Cobra 11.14@124.36 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hampton, VA Posts: 4,794 iTrader: 7 reviews	that oil or antifreeze.... more than like antifreeze..... pull some plugs and see if they have a green tint. pull the dipstick and check for water. pull the antifreeze cap off and check for oil. if those don't tell you, pull the front 02's and check for a green tint. Do a compression check. __________________ TT Build in progress....... Need work done to your car for a great price in Hampton Roads? Shoot me a PM.

July 20th, 2007, 09:49 PM	#10
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,103 iTrader: 0 reviews	That's what I don't want to hear. It was all white smoke, and smelled heavily of engine coolant. I'll have to pull the plugs tomorrow since it's dark here, and I still have to work in the morning. __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

July 20th, 2007, 10:22 PM	#12
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,103 iTrader: 0 reviews	I hydroplaned and hit a curb two Fridays ago. That's why I got the new gas, cause it sat in the drive way for over 2 weeks. The engine ran fine to the shop, back home from the shop and when I was cruising around yesterday... No engine work was done. __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

July 20th, 2007, 10:28 PM	#13
Badasstang281 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 385 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sh!t man that sucks A$$. You don’t have a warranty. I think it is your head gaskets what’s sucks is you have to pull your top end off right? __________________ BBK cai P&P 75mmtb P&P plenum BASSANI exhaust MAC x-pipe NO CAT"S ACCEL direct fire coils NGK iridium spark plugs lX7 Eibach pro-kit springs

July 20th, 2007, 10:34 PM	#14
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,103 iTrader: 0 reviews	Not sure... Never had to change a head gasket on my Mach... Hope I never do! __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

July 20th, 2007, 10:35 PM	#15
Garhfer Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Conv. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edgewater, FL Posts: 1,790 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah he'd have to pull off the heads (valve covers, cams, intake manifold, water pump, headers, heads, timing cover and then line up TDC and all with the cams and crap... lol easier with pushrod engines because they only have one cam... and the cam is underneath the head instead of ontop... a lot of work but can be done) __________________ 2004 GT Boosted by Vortech

July 20th, 2007, 10:41 PM	#16
Badasstang281 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 385 iTrader: 0 reviews	if i was you I would be crying. Sh!t man if you have the $$$$ do the heads. Modulars don’t flow air good. __________________ BBK cai P&P 75mmtb P&P plenum BASSANI exhaust MAC x-pipe NO CAT"S ACCEL direct fire coils NGK iridium spark plugs lX7 Eibach pro-kit springs

July 20th, 2007, 10:44 PM	#17
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,103 iTrader: 0 reviews	4v's do! But thats at the bottom of the list right now... I just want to be able to cruise around without killing it! __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

July 20th, 2007, 10:59 PM	#18
Badasstang281 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 385 iTrader: 0 reviews	Off topic but what do 4v flow with performance heads? My friend and rival is building a 383 and his heads flow 278cc with a .550 lift I think __________________ BBK cai P&P 75mmtb P&P plenum BASSANI exhaust MAC x-pipe NO CAT"S ACCEL direct fire coils NGK iridium spark plugs lX7 Eibach pro-kit springs

July 20th, 2007, 11:09 PM	#19
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,103 iTrader: 0 reviews	Not really sure... So, who lives in Orlando and has good mechanical skills? I need some help! __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

July 20th, 2007, 11:14 PM	#20
flattusmaximus78 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1993 5.ohhhh 12.97 @140mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 6,077 iTrader: 3 reviews	Good lord... I'm def not mechanically inclined. Wish I was. How can you tell of detonation? besides smoke I guess. __________________ 02 Pewter z28, hoosiers/lid/exhaust/spray...125mph 1993 gt Sold, already missed --Moates Quarter horse $225-- --Cobra intake $150-- --tremec 3550 bell and shifter $1100--

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