New Engine...Sky is the limit

marcfiebka · July 28th, 2007, 04:36 AM

OK Guys...Been debating what to do with my car power-wise for the last year or so...I have the money for a good safe nitrous set-up with tune 100 shot. But I absolutely LOVE the idea of 400 HP all motor. My car is a daily driver so it needs to be streetable.

Please don't give me the "why waste money on N/A when you can slap a sc on it and call it a day?" speech.

I want to know where I can get a crate engine that can pump out that kind of power or close to it. I don't care if I have to swap out wiring harnesses and engine mounts etc. Please someone give me a straight answer where I can get an engine like this that I can use for my Daily Driver. This has to be possible! I remember seeing a link to a forged 5.4 4V somewhere in these forums but I lost the link.

One more thing....there really is no price limit. I'm a patient dude and I'll just save up. Please HELP ME OUT!

nba1341 · July 28th, 2007, 05:15 AM

the 5.0L Cammer has 400 hp but costs $15,000 i'm sure you can stroke your gt motor for less

SWEET2KSTANG · July 28th, 2007, 07:45 AM

all motor 400hp is hard to hit, and to make it a dd makes it even harder. first off is to make $$$ no issue, it will take most of the best parts on the market. it would take in the neighborhood of: stroker kit (big bore preferable), have the crank knife edged, high compression w/ steep valve reliefs (11.5:1-12.5:1), lightened flywheel, fully balanced rotating assembly, 42cc p&p heads w/ enlarged valves, custom grind high lift cam, adjustable cam gears, intake manifold (bullit, trickflow, p51), coils, ignition system (msd, plasma booster), maf, cai, fuel rails, 36lb injectors, fuel pump, accufab t/b, accufab plenum (if applicable), electric water pump, udp's, header back exhaust (jba, slp, bassani), and one hell of a tune. that should put you close to 400hp and about $8-9k. if you can get gas that is over 93, then it would make it a little easier of a dd. this is just a rough figure, not 100% accurate. just the things i could come up with right now.

SWEET2KSTANG · July 28th, 2007, 08:46 AM

read some of this.

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ghlight=hyland

marcfiebka · July 28th, 2007, 12:22 PM

So no one knows of a crate engine besides the damn cammer that puts out that kind of power?

02Gt Stang · July 28th, 2007, 04:50 PM

i want to give you that "speech" and b uild your engine hahah way more power and in the end prop 8 grand. sorry ahah

acmillr · July 28th, 2007, 04:56 PM

If you want to be smart, drop in a 355 chevy motor and have all the power you can stand. I am sure it would make some people throw up too- which would be exciting to watch.

nba1341 · July 29th, 2007, 01:19 AM

why are you talking about chevy motors?
if he wants to drop a pushrod* motor in then bam just drop a 351 w/aftermarket heads and bam wam bam you got 400 hp with some work

01dutchGT · July 29th, 2007, 01:27 AM

where can you find a 351 motor that will allow my 2001 motor to pass inspection and be a daily driver?

marcfiebka · July 29th, 2007, 01:31 AM

ya lol needs to be daily driver. is it possible to make those motors work in our cars? they have a ton of crate engines for the fox bodies on ford racing but i called and he said they are only for fox bodies...is there a way to make them work?

jrfan4life · July 29th, 2007, 07:02 AM

Ok...Here ya go... 400HP + Its literaly plus and play!!!
http://www.karkraft.com/new_page_7.htm

mustangmanic · July 29th, 2007, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by jrfan4life

Ok...Here ya go... 400HP + Its literaly plus and play!!!
http://www.karkraft.com/new_page_7.htm

there you go man... thats wat i would most def choose

nba1341 · July 29th, 2007, 01:12 PM

do they sell the 5.4L Modular from the new shelby gt500 a la carte with no supercharger?????

cuz isnt the thing like $15,000 so without the supercharger attached on their it would be like a lot cheaper?

marcfiebka · July 29th, 2007, 01:34 PM

thanks dude! thats the link i lost lol. i knew someone would repost it. thanks. anyone know what it will take to make this work? need to pass emissions. and is it literally plug and play?

marcfiebka · July 29th, 2007, 01:39 PM

crap...

"*note: all Kar Kraft Carbureted Engines and carbureted components are designed and manufactured for off highway use only. Not legal on emission equipped vehicles"

MustangMatt96GT · July 29th, 2007, 01:46 PM

You will not pass emissions with a 350 RWHP modular motor let alone a 400 RWHP!

marcfiebka · July 29th, 2007, 01:53 PM

this is really frustrating...i have limited knowledge and maybe this is a stupid question but how do they get the corvette to put out 400 hp and pass emissions? why cant i do it to my car?

mustangmanic · July 29th, 2007, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by marcfiebka

this is really frustrating...i have limited knowledge and maybe this is a stupid question but how do they get the corvette to put out 400 hp and pass emissions? why cant i do it to my car?

That is a mystery lol. Just the tuning of the car i'm guessing... The way the engine is set up and i'm guessing, just like a stock H-pipe on a Mustang GT, it has 4 to 6 catalytic converters

nba1341 · July 29th, 2007, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by marcfiebka

this is really frustrating...i have limited knowledge and maybe this is a stupid question but how do they get the corvette to put out 400 hp and pass emissions? why cant i do it to my car?

they have like huge 6.0L engines

mustangmanic · July 29th, 2007, 04:17 PM

nba1342 is right... a bigger displacement will = more power... thats not alway the case tho... i mean look at these god damn nissans and toyotas and what not... they have 260 hp from the factory... and their power to weight is so much better than a stock 99-04 gt. Really its just the setup of the engine and the computer, what it limits and what it doesnt, how many valves per cylinder, how many cams, the compression, and everything plays into factor... a corvette engine is a highly tuned 7.0L ls7 V8... they've spent so much time and money manufacturing those engines and it pays off... as for emissions, cats upon cats

July 28th, 2007, 04:36 AM	#1
marcfiebka Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 196 iTrader: 0 reviews	New Engine...Sky is the limit OK Guys...Been debating what to do with my car power-wise for the last year or so...I have the money for a good safe nitrous set-up with tune 100 shot. But I absolutely LOVE the idea of 400 HP all motor. My car is a daily driver so it needs to be streetable. Please don't give me the "why waste money on N/A when you can slap a sc on it and call it a day?" speech. I want to know where I can get a crate engine that can pump out that kind of power or close to it. I don't care if I have to swap out wiring harnesses and engine mounts etc. Please someone give me a straight answer where I can get an engine like this that I can use for my Daily Driver. This has to be possible! I remember seeing a link to a forged 5.4 4V somewhere in these forums but I lost the link. One more thing....there really is no price limit. I'm a patient dude and I'll just save up. Please HELP ME OUT!

July 28th, 2007, 05:15 AM	#2
nba1341 Banned 1965 Mustang Fastback Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles, Cal Posts: 24,982 Posts: 2,194 iTrader: 0 reviews	the 5.0L Cammer has 400 hp but costs $15,000 i'm sure you can stroke your gt motor for less __________________ I'm a good boy now. [COLOR=red][B]slow car club - crew member 7 of 9 [COLOR=White]Mood: Cool :cool: [/COLOR][/B] [/COLOR]

July 28th, 2007, 07:45 AM	#3
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	all motor 400hp is hard to hit, and to make it a dd makes it even harder. first off is to make $$$ no issue, it will take most of the best parts on the market. it would take in the neighborhood of: stroker kit (big bore preferable), have the crank knife edged, high compression w/ steep valve reliefs (11.5:1-12.5:1), lightened flywheel, fully balanced rotating assembly, 42cc p&p heads w/ enlarged valves, custom grind high lift cam, adjustable cam gears, intake manifold (bullit, trickflow, p51), coils, ignition system (msd, plasma booster), maf, cai, fuel rails, 36lb injectors, fuel pump, accufab t/b, accufab plenum (if applicable), electric water pump, udp's, header back exhaust (jba, slp, bassani), and one hell of a tune. that should put you close to 400hp and about $8-9k. if you can get gas that is over 93, then it would make it a little easier of a dd. this is just a rough figure, not 100% accurate. just the things i could come up with right now. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

July 28th, 2007, 08:46 AM	#4
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	read some of this. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ghlight=hyland __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

July 28th, 2007, 04:50 PM	#6
02Gt Stang Regular 2002 Mustang GT 13.6@102 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 127 iTrader: 0 reviews	i want to give you that "speech" and b uild your engine hahah way more power and in the end prop 8 grand. sorry ahah __________________ Procharged 383 rwhp/ 391 rwtq

July 28th, 2007, 12:22 PM	#5
marcfiebka Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 196 iTrader: 0 reviews	So no one knows of a crate engine besides the damn cammer that puts out that kind of power?

July 28th, 2007, 04:56 PM	#7
acmillr MM's Mad Scientist Slow Fella Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 5,111 iTrader: 2 reviews	If you want to be smart, drop in a 355 chevy motor and have all the power you can stand. I am sure it would make some people throw up too- which would be exciting to watch. __________________

July 29th, 2007, 01:19 AM	#8
nba1341 Banned 1965 Mustang Fastback Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles, Cal Posts: 24,982 Posts: 2,194 iTrader: 0 reviews	why are you talking about chevy motors? if he wants to drop a pushrod* motor in then bam just drop a 351 w/aftermarket heads and bam wam bam you got 400 hp with some work __________________ I'm a good boy now. [COLOR=red][B]slow car club - crew member 7 of 9 [COLOR=White]Mood: Cool :cool: [/COLOR][/B] [/COLOR]

July 29th, 2007, 01:27 AM	#9
01dutchGT Regular 1965 Ford Mustang Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 481 iTrader: 0 reviews	where can you find a 351 motor that will allow my 2001 motor to pass inspection and be a daily driver? __________________ 2001 mustang gt 5 speed Full bolt ons with 4.10 gears. 1965 Mustang 302 with 4 Barrel edelbrock 600cfm, T5 transmission, Hurst short throw shifter. In the process of restoring it...

July 29th, 2007, 01:31 AM	#10
marcfiebka Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 196 iTrader: 0 reviews	ya lol needs to be daily driver. is it possible to make those motors work in our cars? they have a ton of crate engines for the fox bodies on ford racing but i called and he said they are only for fox bodies...is there a way to make them work?

July 29th, 2007, 07:02 AM	#11
jrfan4life Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT NA Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,065 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok...Here ya go... 400HP + Its literaly plus and play!!! http://www.karkraft.com/new_page_7.htm __________________ http://www.myspace.com/the_final_lap

July 29th, 2007, 01:12 PM	#13
nba1341 Banned 1965 Mustang Fastback Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles, Cal Posts: 24,982 Posts: 2,194 iTrader: 0 reviews	do they sell the 5.4L Modular from the new shelby gt500 a la carte with no supercharger????? cuz isnt the thing like $15,000 so without the supercharger attached on their it would be like a lot cheaper? __________________ I'm a good boy now. [COLOR=red][B]slow car club - crew member 7 of 9 [COLOR=White]Mood: Cool :cool: [/COLOR][/B] [/COLOR]

July 29th, 2007, 01:34 PM	#14
marcfiebka Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 196 iTrader: 0 reviews	thanks dude! thats the link i lost lol. i knew someone would repost it. thanks. anyone know what it will take to make this work? need to pass emissions. and is it literally plug and play?

July 29th, 2007, 01:39 PM	#15
marcfiebka Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 196 iTrader: 0 reviews	crap... "*note: all Kar Kraft Carbureted Engines and carbureted components are designed and manufactured for off highway use only. Not legal on emission equipped vehicles"

July 29th, 2007, 01:46 PM	#16
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	You will not pass emissions with a 350 RWHP modular motor let alone a 400 RWHP! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

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July 29th, 2007, 01:53 PM	#17
marcfiebka Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 196 iTrader: 0 reviews	this is really frustrating...i have limited knowledge and maybe this is a stupid question but how do they get the corvette to put out 400 hp and pass emissions? why cant i do it to my car?

July 29th, 2007, 04:17 PM	#20
mustangmanic MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT 13.334 @ 106.27 w/2.01 60' Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 3,107 iTrader: 2 reviews	nba1342 is right... a bigger displacement will = more power... thats not alway the case tho... i mean look at these god damn nissans and toyotas and what not... they have 260 hp from the factory... and their power to weight is so much better than a stock 99-04 gt. Really its just the setup of the engine and the computer, what it limits and what it doesnt, how many valves per cylinder, how many cams, the compression, and everything plays into factor... a corvette engine is a highly tuned 7.0L ls7 V8... they've spent so much time and money manufacturing those engines and it pays off... as for emissions, cats upon cats __________________

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