EGR Delete

MustangMatt96GT · July 31st, 2007, 10:41 PM

Okay, so when I do my head swap and everything, I plan on deleteing my EGR. If anybody could help me out and give me everything I need to do and what I will need to buy. Thanks a lot!

I think I will get better responce in here even though I have a 96 GT!

Garhfer · July 31st, 2007, 10:47 PM

Just need an egr delete plate and a tune.

bluestang96 · August 1st, 2007, 08:59 AM

Randy in parts at modulardepot.com will have what you need. The kit is around $12.

AnglicoGT98 · August 1st, 2007, 11:30 AM

All you need is some gasket material, a piece of rubber, and a small illuminmun plate all cut the same diamond shape where the EGR is hooked up to and put that in place of the EGR. You'll need to disconnect that steel hose that runs to the exhaust manifold and block it off down there with a piping end cap the same size. Make sure you close off all the vacuum lines that ran from the EGR (there should be 2 or 3 small lines). Then use a handheld tuner to shut of the EGR sensors. That about does it. That mod makes the engine look alot cleaner!

1995svtcobra · January 26th, 2009, 09:54 PM

what about the smog pump? do you leave it in place and just put a cap over where the hose from the egr went? i would think it would be ok to leave it and do this?

ajm · January 26th, 2009, 10:31 PM

Egr delete plate, i think upr has them for 10-15 bucks and then some sort of plug to thread into the header to plug up where the egr tube went, then any vacuum lines that might need plugged and a tune.

zinc02GT · January 26th, 2009, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by AnglicoGT98

All you need is some gasket material, a piece of rubber, and a small illuminmun plate all cut the same diamond shape where the EGR is hooked up to and put that in place of the EGR. You'll need to disconnect that steel hose that runs to the exhaust manifold and block it off down there with a piping end cap the same size. Make sure you close off all the vacuum lines that ran from the EGR (there should be 2 or 3 small lines). Then use a handheld tuner to shut of the EGR sensors. That about does it. That mod makes the engine look alot cleaner!

Murdered.

ReverendDexter · January 26th, 2009, 10:44 PM

I'm curious as to why you would do this.

Is there a power gain to be had? Or is this just to clean up the engine bay?

My knowledge of the EGR is that it only opens under light load when the engine is warm, and has a net effect of increasing fuel economy. It's the only peice of emissions equipment I'm aware of that (I thought) had no negative effects.

sxynerd · January 26th, 2009, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by bluestang96

Randy in parts at modulardepot.com will have what you need. The kit is around $12.

I bought that kit, pretty good. I also made my own EGR delete with a brass 5/8 pipe cap and a piece of stainless flatstock and some gasket material.

The tune just needs to turn of the cel. I haven't seen any cars react different during tuning and I with the delete I still got 28mpg with my supercharger.

I know people will regurgitate the Wiki definitions eventually of the need for an egr and the science makes sense but still doesn't change my results.

Boomer · January 26th, 2009, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter

I'm curious as to why you would do this.

Is there a power gain to be had? Or is this just to clean up the engine bay?

My knowledge of the EGR is that it only opens under light load when the engine is warm, and has a net effect of increasing fuel economy. It's the only peice of emissions equipment I'm aware of that (I thought) had no negative effects.

Removing it without a tune will cause parts throttle detonation. The added NOX to the cylinder actually allows the computer to run more timing and a better burn. Cosmetics is the only logical reason to remove it.

99mustanggtman · January 27th, 2009, 02:59 AM

You can get everything you need from Home Depot. I just cut out my own plate out of thick aluminum and bought some rubber caps to block the vacuum lines. Then just shut it off in your tuner.

Trick Tuners · January 27th, 2009, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Boomer

Removing it without a tune will cause parts throttle detonation. The added NOX to the cylinder actually allows the computer to run more timing and a better burn. Cosmetics is the only logical reason to remove it.

+1

casper gt · April 29th, 2009, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by radomirthegreat

I have the diablosport predator, U7146, for my 3.8. it used to come with the option EGR On/Off but the new ones don't. Anyone know the options now?

newer diablo's don't have the ability to shut off emission equiptment. you need to get a custom tune or find a older non-upgraded diablo.

Safi · April 29th, 2009, 07:35 PM

Matt shouldn't have to worry about disabling anything as he swapped in a 351 and is not using the stock ECU.

wishIhada5.0 · April 29th, 2009, 08:09 PM

I dont know why but I just dont like the idea of exhaust runnin back through a blower ( KB/Saleen/ Tork Tek kit)...can someone persuade me otherwise and save me $10-15? lol

Mustang RacR94 · April 29th, 2009, 09:04 PM

do not delete your EGR, you will see 0 power gains, none at all, period. and can help cause your motor to detonate, EGR can help prevent this, do yourself a favor, keep the EGR

wishIhada5.0 · April 29th, 2009, 09:22 PM

you sad the key word..."detonate".....egr is stayin on! lol

97S281 · April 29th, 2009, 09:27 PM

Why exactly would rot running an egr system lead to detonation?????

ajm · April 29th, 2009, 09:31 PM

wishIhada5.0 · April 29th, 2009, 09:56 PM

holy shit lol I just looked how old this thread was!

July 31st, 2007, 10:41 PM	#1
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	EGR Delete Okay, so when I do my head swap and everything, I plan on deleteing my EGR. If anybody could help me out and give me everything I need to do and what I will need to buy. Thanks a lot! I think I will get better responce in here even though I have a 96 GT! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

July 31st, 2007, 10:47 PM	#2
Garhfer Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Conv. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edgewater, FL Posts: 1,793 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just need an egr delete plate and a tune. __________________ 2004 GT Boosted by Vortech

August 1st, 2007, 11:30 AM	#4
AnglicoGT98 Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 630 iTrader: 2 reviews	All you need is some gasket material, a piece of rubber, and a small illuminmun plate all cut the same diamond shape where the EGR is hooked up to and put that in place of the EGR. You'll need to disconnect that steel hose that runs to the exhaust manifold and block it off down there with a piping end cap the same size. Make sure you close off all the vacuum lines that ran from the EGR (there should be 2 or 3 small lines). Then use a handheld tuner to shut of the EGR sensors. That about does it. That mod makes the engine look alot cleaner! __________________ Parting out 2003 SVT Cobra Air/Fuel http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html Engine http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html

January 26th, 2009, 10:44 PM	#8
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,808 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'm curious as to why you would do this. Is there a power gain to be had? Or is this just to clean up the engine bay? My knowledge of the EGR is that it only opens under light load when the engine is warm, and has a net effect of increasing fuel economy. It's the only peice of emissions equipment I'm aware of that (I thought) had no negative effects. __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\

January 27th, 2009, 02:59 AM	#11
99mustanggtman Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Germantown, MD/ OSU Posts: 1,835 iTrader: 7 reviews	You can get everything you need from Home Depot. I just cut out my own plate out of thick aluminum and bought some rubber caps to block the vacuum lines. Then just shut it off in your tuner. __________________ Single 67mm turbo, ported pi heads, edelbrock vic jr. manifold w/HPP plenum, terminator shortblock, return fuel system... Goal 600+ rwhp.

August 1st, 2007, 08:59 AM	#3
bluestang96 Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 23 iTrader: 0 reviews	Randy in parts at modulardepot.com will have what you need. The kit is around $12.

January 26th, 2009, 09:54 PM	#5
1995svtcobra Newbie 95 SVT Cobra Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 32 iTrader: 0 reviews	what about the smog pump? do you leave it in place and just put a cap over where the hose from the egr went? i would think it would be ok to leave it and do this?

January 26th, 2009, 10:31 PM	#6
ajm Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7,966 iTrader: 4 reviews	Egr delete plate, i think upr has them for 10-15 bucks and then some sort of plug to thread into the header to plug up where the egr tube went, then any vacuum lines that might need plugged and a tune.

April 29th, 2009, 08:09 PM	#15
wishIhada5.0 April 2012 ROTM 2002 GT, True Blue, Stick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: About an hour east of Pittsburgh Posts: 4,083 iTrader: 0 reviews	I dont know why but I just dont like the idea of exhaust runnin back through a blower ( KB/Saleen/ Tork Tek kit)...can someone persuade me otherwise and save me $10-15? lol __________________ True blue crew founder/member #1 378/442 rwhp/rwtqon a Mustang dyno cams are in..#'s coming this summer

April 29th, 2009, 09:04 PM	#16
Mustang RacR94 MM Fanatic 99 cobra N/A Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 3,170 iTrader: 0 reviews	do not delete your EGR, you will see 0 power gains, none at all, period. and can help cause your motor to detonate, EGR can help prevent this, do yourself a favor, keep the EGR __________________ 99 Cobra 03 Cobra motor AFCO H/E Pulley JLT CAI BBK L/T off road H/steeda catback SCT MAF Tune 03 cobra pumps HVGC

April 29th, 2009, 09:22 PM	#17
wishIhada5.0 April 2012 ROTM 2002 GT, True Blue, Stick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: About an hour east of Pittsburgh Posts: 4,083 iTrader: 0 reviews	you sad the key word..."detonate".....egr is stayin on! lol __________________ True blue crew founder/member #1 378/442 rwhp/rwtqon a Mustang dyno cams are in..#'s coming this summer

April 29th, 2009, 09:27 PM	#18
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 6,673 iTrader: 13 reviews	Why exactly would rot running an egr system lead to detonation????? __________________ MODS IN GARAGE NCMM ORIGINAL BLOWN 96-98 CREW MEMBER # 1

April 29th, 2009, 09:31 PM	#19
ajm Banned Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7,966 iTrader: 4 reviews

April 29th, 2009, 09:56 PM	#20
wishIhada5.0 April 2012 ROTM 2002 GT, True Blue, Stick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: About an hour east of Pittsburgh Posts: 4,083 iTrader: 0 reviews	holy shit lol I just looked how old this thread was! __________________ True blue crew founder/member #1 378/442 rwhp/rwtqon a Mustang dyno cams are in..#'s coming this summer

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