Full Bolt On with Cam RWHP?

ModMustang97GT · August 17th, 2007, 07:11 PM

So I'm trying to figuer out what kind of power I will be puting down with my PI swap, 70mm TB Plenum, Stage 2 Cams, CAI, and a full Exhaust with LT headers, H pipe and Catback and a SCT Tune. I have stock gears, but I'm trying to figure out how much I will puting to the ground. I would like to be able to do about 350rwhp but I'm sure I need a port and polish for that. Any idea what kind of HP #'s I will have?

Drgnracin72 · August 17th, 2007, 07:16 PM

270-280 rwhp. gonna be hard to get 350 rwhp all motor. do some searching and youll find a bunch of threadssa bout why its very hard. its not impossible, but it wont be streetable and not cheap at all. thats why forced induction on these cars is so popular

HMUSN · August 17th, 2007, 07:18 PM

I was going to say 280 myself but then I figured since the cams were stage 2 and all it would give him a few extra ponies.

SWEET2KSTANG · August 17th, 2007, 07:35 PM

right around 300. your compression will be higher than ours, you will make n/a power a little easier.

Drgnracin72 · August 17th, 2007, 07:45 PM

itll make it easier but not enopugh to get 300 rwhp with cams only. helkl need some badass heads along with those cams to get that kind of power

Smoothgrandmama · August 17th, 2007, 10:36 PM

Doesn't ford make racing heads for the 96-98 stangs?

Smoothgrandmama · August 17th, 2007, 10:37 PM

Like 35 hp easy?

MustangMatt96GT · August 17th, 2007, 11:04 PM

yeah at 900 bucks each unassembled with a matching intake that is 1600 plus new rails and everything it will cost ove 4000 to get one running the way I would want it to!

Drgnracin72 · August 17th, 2007, 11:19 PM

its much cheaper, more reliable, and better driveability, and streetable with forced induction

MustangMatt96GT · August 17th, 2007, 11:29 PM

yeah but wats teh fun in haveing the same thing as every other stang? I am going for 300 RWHP and TQ once i have my swap done! I just need money so I can get my other mods I want to do while its apart!

sonicblue · August 17th, 2007, 11:42 PM

yea but when you get smoked by a gt that just has a blower and nothing else you will be pissed at your self for spending twice as much as him

TheUNZippee! · August 17th, 2007, 11:47 PM

Even better: buy a camshaft with a profile that is blower/turbo friendly. Then later on down the road you can toss a blower on it and have the best of both worlds.

MustangMatt96GT · August 18th, 2007, 12:12 AM

Nitrous FTW

TheUNZippee! · August 18th, 2007, 12:15 AM

Stickers FTL

04GTAMPA · August 18th, 2007, 09:28 AM

Resources, resources... You can get 300+ with heads/cams. May I suggest Nitrous...

Or just do like the rest of the world. Take the easy route and slap a blower on it. This is a never-ending story of modifications. You'll eventually build the block, then add more power and so on...

Chris02 · August 18th, 2007, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by sonicblue

yea but when you get smoked by a gt that just has a blower and nothing else you will be pissed at your self for spending twice as much as him

+1

Nate's4.6 · August 18th, 2007, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by sonicblue

yea but when you get smoked by a gt that just has a blower and nothing else you will be pissed at your self for spending twice as much as him

+1

When he goes by, you will say "damn I should have just got a blower".

Drgnracin72 · August 18th, 2007, 05:05 PM

its not nesecarily the easy route, i mean it is, but its not worth building a n/a 2v. they simply dont breath. there is no such thing as a good flowing 2v head. it doesnt exist and never will. atleast not for these cars.

thats why you have to force the air into the combustiin chamber. IE: forced induction

droppedbass87 · August 18th, 2007, 05:15 PM

plus 35 a blottle of nitrous gets old..i have it for just right now cuz boost cost$...

MustangMatt96GT · August 18th, 2007, 05:37 PM

well! I dont want a blower! I want to be different, and stephan, the 2V heads flow much more air when the bore is opened up to 3.700. It is less restrictive of a flow then. Also I will be spending a lot less on my head cam swap than some blower! If i were to go blown, it would be novi 2000. I felll that I will have one of the most powerful 2v N/A stangs here in CO. Let me tell you. I dont see blowers working that well here! 06 GT with a 10 PSI pulley, only runs 14.8s? seems odd to me!

August 17th, 2007, 07:11 PM	#1
ModMustang97GT Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Faster than an s4 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,598 iTrader: 0 reviews	Full Bolt On with Cam RWHP? So I'm trying to figuer out what kind of power I will be puting down with my PI swap, 70mm TB Plenum, Stage 2 Cams, CAI, and a full Exhaust with LT headers, H pipe and Catback and a SCT Tune. I have stock gears, but I'm trying to figure out how much I will puting to the ground. I would like to be able to do about 350rwhp but I'm sure I need a port and polish for that. Any idea what kind of HP #'s I will have?

August 17th, 2007, 07:16 PM	#2
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	270-280 rwhp. gonna be hard to get 350 rwhp all motor. do some searching and youll find a bunch of threadssa bout why its very hard. its not impossible, but it wont be streetable and not cheap at all. thats why forced induction on these cars is so popular __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

August 17th, 2007, 07:18 PM	#3
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	I was going to say 280 myself but then I figured since the cams were stage 2 and all it would give him a few extra ponies. __________________

August 17th, 2007, 07:35 PM	#4
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	right around 300. your compression will be higher than ours, you will make n/a power a little easier. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

August 17th, 2007, 07:45 PM	#5
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	itll make it easier but not enopugh to get 300 rwhp with cams only. helkl need some badass heads along with those cams to get that kind of power __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

August 17th, 2007, 10:36 PM	#6
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August 17th, 2007, 10:37 PM	#7
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August 17th, 2007, 11:04 PM	#8
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,168 iTrader: 3 reviews	yeah at 900 bucks each unassembled with a matching intake that is 1600 plus new rails and everything it will cost ove 4000 to get one running the way I would want it to! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

August 17th, 2007, 11:19 PM	#9
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	its much cheaper, more reliable, and better driveability, and streetable with forced induction __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

August 17th, 2007, 11:29 PM	#10
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,168 iTrader: 3 reviews	yeah but wats teh fun in haveing the same thing as every other stang? I am going for 300 RWHP and TQ once i have my swap done! I just need money so I can get my other mods I want to do while its apart! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

August 17th, 2007, 11:42 PM	#11
sonicblue Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: dalzell, south carolina Posts: 1,436 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea but when you get smoked by a gt that just has a blower and nothing else you will be pissed at your self for spending twice as much as him __________________ 1990 5.0 getting all fixed up for next season 2004 mustang gt 520rwhp, 491 trq sold

August 17th, 2007, 11:47 PM	#12
TheUNZippee! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 61,816 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Even better: buy a camshaft with a profile that is blower/turbo friendly. Then later on down the road you can toss a blower on it and have the best of both worlds. __________________

August 18th, 2007, 12:12 AM	#13
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,168 iTrader: 3 reviews	Nitrous FTW __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

August 18th, 2007, 12:15 AM	#14
TheUNZippee! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 61,816 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Stickers FTL __________________

August 18th, 2007, 09:28 AM	#15
04GTAMPA Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang SVT Cobra Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 2,751 iTrader: 1 reviews	Resources, resources... You can get 300+ with heads/cams. May I suggest Nitrous... Or just do like the rest of the world. Take the easy route and slap a blower on it. This is a never-ending story of modifications. You'll eventually build the block, then add more power and so on... __________________ Slow, really slow Cobra. Wanna see? MM Cobra Club Member #81 "TAMPA BAY AREA CREW"

August 18th, 2007, 05:05 PM	#18
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	its not nesecarily the easy route, i mean it is, but its not worth building a n/a 2v. they simply dont breath. there is no such thing as a good flowing 2v head. it doesnt exist and never will. atleast not for these cars. thats why you have to force the air into the combustiin chamber. IE: forced induction __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

August 18th, 2007, 05:15 PM	#19
droppedbass87 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: diberville,mississippi Posts: 1,894 iTrader: 0 reviews	plus 35 a blottle of nitrous gets old..i have it for just right now cuz boost cost$... __________________ fraziers transmission service..

August 18th, 2007, 05:37 PM	#20
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,168 iTrader: 3 reviews	well! I dont want a blower! I want to be different, and stephan, the 2V heads flow much more air when the bore is opened up to 3.700. It is less restrictive of a flow then. Also I will be spending a lot less on my head cam swap than some blower! If i were to go blown, it would be novi 2000. I felll that I will have one of the most powerful 2v N/A stangs here in CO. Let me tell you. I dont see blowers working that well here! 06 GT with a 10 PSI pulley, only runs 14.8s? seems odd to me! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

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