I didnt know this was possible?

energiesource · August 17th, 2007, 10:39 PM

I think i may be swapping out the ol' sohc if this is the case

and trust me, it isnt too much to read

Those smug LS1 boys didn't know what hit 'em. Overnight, SN-95-the platform made famous for pairing an Eaton blower with the four-valve-per-cylinder mod mill-made for a lethal combination with crazy potential. Although the '03-'04 Cobras were often ridiculed by the Bow-Tie crowd, Ford's last Cobra was one bad mofo. Aptly dubbed the "Terminator," it pushed stock SVT Mustangs deep into the 12s despite a suspiciously conservative horsepower rating of 390. Simply swapping in a smaller blower pulley and uncorking the intake and exhaust tracts had Cobras laying down 500 hp at the wheels. The LS1 was finally subjected to a paternity test, and its daddy was the '03 Cobra.

While comparisons between Fords and Chevys are inevitable, perhaps the Cobra is more of a domestic rebuttal to the Toyota Supra. Like the Toyota's 2JZ-GTE inline-six, the Cobra's bulletproof long-block can handle hundreds of additional horsepower without breaking a sweat. Its stout iron block, steel H-beam rods, and forged crank and pistons laugh in the face of extra boost, but there's still a point where the stock Eaton gets wheezy. To push the boundaries of the stock 4.6 to the max, Manny Alvarez of HPP Racing (Lewisville, Texas) yanked the factory blower in favor of twin GT35R turbos. The result was 820 rwhp.

HMUSN · August 17th, 2007, 10:40 PM

energiesource · August 17th, 2007, 10:48 PM

quiet v6

HMUSN · August 17th, 2007, 10:49 PM

vwhat?

energiesource · August 17th, 2007, 10:52 PM

lol didnt you have a v6?

HMUSN · August 17th, 2007, 10:53 PM

I still do.

and a GT.

energiesource · August 17th, 2007, 11:10 PM

oh..
lol well then
i just didnt know the stock internals of a cobra could go that high

whtpny · August 17th, 2007, 11:30 PM

thats why im gonna make a term my second stang

Drgnracin72 · August 17th, 2007, 11:32 PM

im not impressed with termi anynmore, after i outran a 445 rwhp termi and then got beat by one car length by a 460 rwhp termi, in my car on motor. yeah they make a ton of power with a pulley swap, but they dopnt seem to go any faster

energiesource · August 17th, 2007, 11:34 PM

so is a dohc swap worth it? or should i just put the $7 grand into my sohc?
i really never got a straight answer on that

whtpny · August 17th, 2007, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by energiesource

so is a dohc swap worth it? or should i just put the $7 grand into my sohc?
i really never got a straight answer on that

in my opinion, first establish where you'd like to be in the rwhp field.. i think im gonna settle for around 500 or 600ish horsepower to the wheels and when *crosses fingers/toes/arms/legs/etc/etc* i get a term ill go balls to the wall w/ twin turbo.. mmm lol

BWAL · August 17th, 2007, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by drgnracin72

im not impressed with termi anynmore, after i outran a 445 rwhp termi and then got beat by one car length by a 460 rwhp termi, in my car on motor. yeah they make a ton of power with a pulley swap, but they dopnt seem to go any faster

i think alot of that has to do with the drivers.. considering you run what you do in the 1/4, i wouldn't be surprised if you just smoked them due to being able to drive alot better

B0B · August 18th, 2007, 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by drgnracin72

im not impressed with termi anynmore, after i outran a 445 rwhp termi and then got beat by one car length by a 460 rwhp termi, in my car on motor. yeah they make a ton of power with a pulley swap, but they dopnt seem to go any faster

i dont get it either.. it seems like i hear of modded GT's going so much faster than cobras even when the GT's have less HP??!!

04GTAMPA · August 18th, 2007, 09:25 AM

Dude, with 7k on your engine, you'll be stepping on snakes all day long, modded ones...

energiesource · August 18th, 2007, 11:05 AM

so when people say all we get out of our na sohc engines is like 350 hp, or around there, then is there anything else to do without an engine swap and besides FI? it just seems a little low with a fully modded engine

Chris02 · August 18th, 2007, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by 04GTAMPA

Dude, with 7k on your engine, you'll be stepping on snakes all day long, modded ones...

I agree. Build your 2V motor and boost that bitch and you will be kicking the snot out of modifed Termi's. Especially if you get a twin turbo setup :wink

shroom · August 18th, 2007, 12:24 PM

Ya, I read that exact article over the 800+ sonic blue cobra. Was Insane. But you can get that same twin turbo kit for your gt. Just go look at there site.

energiesource · August 18th, 2007, 01:08 PM

well from pts or wherever that was from, the only twin turbo kit you can get is for the cobra, hp makes a twin turbo kit for the mustang gt, but the turbos are in between the bumper, so im guessing maintenance would be a bitch on that kit, the only downfall which is why i was hoping pts would make one

B0B · August 18th, 2007, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by 04GTAMPA

Dude, with 7k on your engine, you'll be stepping on snakes all day long, modded ones...

yes that is true, heres the downside of that though:

cobras have a t-56 six speed, the 3650 that is in our GT's will not hold up to that power. cobras also have better brakes, and aren't their rear ends stronger? so those are a few things to take into consideration..

if i decide to keep my GT and mod it vs getting a cobra, i'm gonna go all out. i wouldn't even bother with a kenne bell. i would go with a forged stroker shortblock and a twin turbo setup. i would be shooting for 600+

and another thing about turbos, they are much better for street driving right? because they dont make boost until you step on it?

energiesource · August 18th, 2007, 01:22 PM

they can get full boost at around 2000 rpm if you like, depends with what setup you go with and alot of people with cobras usually switch out their irs for solid axles like ours, for some reason, atleast i think they do. and if the 56 bothers you, just get a tko600, it'll dominate all

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August 17th, 2007, 10:49 PM	#4
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	vwhat? __________________

August 17th, 2007, 10:52 PM	#5
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	lol didnt you have a v6? __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

August 17th, 2007, 10:53 PM	#6
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August 17th, 2007, 11:10 PM	#7
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	oh.. lol well then i just didnt know the stock internals of a cobra could go that high __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

August 17th, 2007, 11:30 PM	#8
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Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	im not impressed with termi anynmore, after i outran a 445 rwhp termi and then got beat by one car length by a 460 rwhp termi, in my car on motor. yeah they make a ton of power with a pulley swap, but they dopnt seem to go any faster __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

August 17th, 2007, 11:34 PM	#10
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	so is a dohc swap worth it? or should i just put the $7 grand into my sohc? i really never got a straight answer on that __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

August 18th, 2007, 09:25 AM	#14
04GTAMPA Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang SVT Cobra Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 2,751 iTrader: 1 reviews	Dude, with 7k on your engine, you'll be stepping on snakes all day long, modded ones... __________________ Slow, really slow Cobra. Wanna see? MM Cobra Club Member #81 "TAMPA BAY AREA CREW"

August 18th, 2007, 11:05 AM	#15
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	so when people say all we get out of our na sohc engines is like 350 hp, or around there, then is there anything else to do without an engine swap and besides FI? it just seems a little low with a fully modded engine __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

August 18th, 2007, 12:24 PM	#17
shroom Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 165 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ya, I read that exact article over the 800+ sonic blue cobra. Was Insane. But you can get that same twin turbo kit for your gt. Just go look at there site. __________________ Please PM me if you find out of any good deals on a terminator! Thanks! "8/6/1945 little boy was dropped on Hiroshima......8/9/1945 FAT MAN was dropped on Nagasaki.....8/1/2002 Ford Motor Co. dropped the TERMINATOR on your Japanese ass"

August 18th, 2007, 01:08 PM	#18
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	well from pts or wherever that was from, the only twin turbo kit you can get is for the cobra, hp makes a twin turbo kit for the mustang gt, but the turbos are in between the bumper, so im guessing maintenance would be a bitch on that kit, the only downfall which is why i was hoping pts would make one __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

August 18th, 2007, 01:22 PM	#20
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	they can get full boost at around 2000 rpm if you like, depends with what setup you go with and alot of people with cobras usually switch out their irs for solid axles like ours, for some reason, atleast i think they do. and if the 56 bothers you, just get a tko600, it'll dominate all __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

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