romeo or windsor

ma67cpe · September 1st, 2007, 05:33 PM

I thought X meant it was a 99 model?

mystang0673 · September 1st, 2007, 05:41 PM

well... mine has an x. but it has 11 bolt valve covers which means it has romeo. so.....

bossman2kgt · September 1st, 2007, 05:45 PM

I went ahead and emailed fords website so maybe sometime next week I will have the answer most of us are lookin for.

neckbonekat · September 2nd, 2007, 01:31 AM

I found this:

http://www.sullivanperformance.com/YVS450/tech/tech.htm
There are a lot of questions regarding the differences between the Windsor and Romeo. Either engine will work well for a performance application. If you have the choice pick the Windsor. Rather than try and tell you the differences we will point you to a link that has a great in-depth analysis of these 2 engines. http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/eb40228.htm

bossman2kgt · September 2nd, 2007, 02:57 AM

Well after readin the sullivan website and cross referencing with the vin code my engine block has an 'x' which I am assuming means that I have a windsor produced block. Next question is whether or not the block is cast aluminum or iron? At least I got half of my answer figured out.

superbeef1000 · September 2nd, 2007, 02:58 AM

iron

bossman2kgt · September 2nd, 2007, 03:00 AM

Ahhh...just figured it out myself. Thanks.

vinnie115 · November 25th, 2011, 01:04 PM

when i went to order vavle covers it said to check my 8th digit number on vin, mine had a x meaning windsor a 13 bolt cover so thats what i ordered when it came then i counted my bolt covers thev not when i orderded them an they were wrong i have 11 bolt meaning romeo, so i called cj pony they said they got that info from ford so my complaint is with ford, u no i got no where, so no what the digit in the vin says , just count ur valve cover bolts urself !!

Eagle2000GT · November 25th, 2011, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by mystang0673

How can you tell if you have the romeo or windsor block.... if im not mistaken. the romeo has a w for the 8th digit in the vin and the windsor has an x as the 8th. if im wrong please correct me

That is an old code that was not used on the 99-04 Mustang. The X stands for 4.6L SOHC. It was used for both Windsor and Romeo motors.2002 Ford Mustang VIN Decoder - MustangAttitude.com Data Explorer

I have not had both motors apart but I have see several references saying the Windsor motor (being a truck motor) has stronger rods. They are supposed to be the same ones used in the 99, 01 Cobra.

BLUE91GT · November 25th, 2011, 03:48 PM

I have read all the articles and if you have 11 valve cover or cam cover bolts you have a Romeo Block. If you have 13 bolts you have a Windsor.

TheOdessa · November 25th, 2011, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Eagle2000GT

That is an old code that was not used on the 99-04 Mustang. The X stands for 4.6L SOHC. It was used for both Windsor and Romeo motors.2002 Ford Mustang VIN Decoder - MustangAttitude.com Data Explorer

I have not had both motors apart but I have see several references saying the Windsor motor (being a truck motor) has stronger rods. They are supposed to be the same ones used in the 99, 01 Cobra.

I know there's millions of threads on this, but besides the stronger rods, any real main difference besides the number of bolts???

10ryder225 · November 25th, 2011, 09:34 PM

Wow this thread is so damn old

September 1st, 2007, 05:33 PM	#21
ma67cpe Enthusiast 1967 mustang coupe Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: dallas,tx Posts: 621 iTrader: 0 reviews	I thought X meant it was a 99 model? __________________

September 1st, 2007, 05:41 PM	#22
mystang0673 MM Fanatic 6.82@100mph 1.45 60' Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,260 iTrader: 0 reviews	well... mine has an x. but it has 11 bolt valve covers which means it has romeo. so..... __________________

September 2nd, 2007, 01:31 AM	#24
neckbonekat I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2005 Cadillac STS V8 ???????????????? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 6,344 iTrader: 3 reviews	I found this: http://www.sullivanperformance.com/YVS450/tech/tech.htm There are a lot of questions regarding the differences between the Windsor and Romeo. Either engine will work well for a performance application. If you have the choice pick the Windsor. Rather than try and tell you the differences we will point you to a link that has a great in-depth analysis of these 2 engines. http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/eb40228.htm __________________ ITEMS FOR SALE! 4.10 GEARS + BEARING KIT

September 2nd, 2007, 02:58 AM	#26
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November 25th, 2011, 03:48 PM	#30
BLUE91GT Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SONOMA COUNTY Posts: 508 iTrader: 1 reviews	I have read all the articles and if you have 11 valve cover or cam cover bolts you have a Romeo Block. If you have 13 bolts you have a Windsor. __________________ 02 GT- TF TB/ upper, flows, steeda triax, steeda UDP, BBK CAI, H&R SS springs, Steeda SFC, Poly bushings, AGX shocks/struts, MM CC plates, Steeda bump steer, Chrome Cobra R's, Rear control arm kit.

September 1st, 2007, 05:45 PM	#23
bossman2kgt Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wichita, Ks Posts: 1,287 iTrader: 0 reviews	I went ahead and emailed fords website so maybe sometime next week I will have the answer most of us are lookin for.

September 2nd, 2007, 02:57 AM	#25
bossman2kgt Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wichita, Ks Posts: 1,287 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well after readin the sullivan website and cross referencing with the vin code my engine block has an 'x' which I am assuming means that I have a windsor produced block. Next question is whether or not the block is cast aluminum or iron? At least I got half of my answer figured out.

September 2nd, 2007, 03:00 AM	#27
bossman2kgt Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wichita, Ks Posts: 1,287 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ahhh...just figured it out myself. Thanks.

November 25th, 2011, 01:04 PM	#28
vinnie115 Regular Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 92 iTrader: 0 reviews	when i went to order vavle covers it said to check my 8th digit number on vin, mine had a x meaning windsor a 13 bolt cover so thats what i ordered when it came then i counted my bolt covers thev not when i orderded them an they were wrong i have 11 bolt meaning romeo, so i called cj pony they said they got that info from ford so my complaint is with ford, u no i got no where, so no what the digit in the vin says , just count ur valve cover bolts urself !!

November 25th, 2011, 09:34 PM	#32
10ryder225 Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 622 iTrader: 0 reviews	Wow this thread is so damn old

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