romeo or windsor

mystang0673 · August 30th, 2007, 10:31 PM

How can you tell if you have the romeo or windsor block.... if im not mistaken. the romeo has a w for the 8th digit in the vin and the windsor has an x as the 8th. if im wrong please correct me

mustangmanic · August 30th, 2007, 10:36 PM

wat is the difference b/t the 2? isnt the romeo used in the cobra?

mystang0673 · August 30th, 2007, 11:12 PM

yeah. but i think it was put in some gts also. kinda randomly. like they moved factories or something like that and used some of the romeo blocks for gts. they handle more hp and the windsor block

mustangmanic · August 30th, 2007, 11:58 PM

wow! they put romeos in some gt's? so that means there r some gt's driving around out there with an iron block and they dont even kno it? thats means for some serious HP!!! haha

MustangMatt96GT · August 31st, 2007, 12:12 AM

Romeo was used from 96-98 and then mid 01-04 in the GTs

and read this Clicky

mustangmanic · August 31st, 2007, 12:18 AM

ooooo ok... so who makes the termi blocks?

bossman2kgt · August 31st, 2007, 12:47 AM

Heres some good readin.

http://www.mustangandfords.com/techa...or_blocks.html

mystang0673 · August 31st, 2007, 01:31 AM

that article didnt really help me much on how to determine if i have a romeo or windsor. lol. but thanks for tryin. maybe i didnt understand it correctly and you can point somethin out for me

Blackblurr_00GT · August 31st, 2007, 03:49 AM

THe windsors blocks are stonger b/c most of them came with and 8 bolt crank where as the romeo block came with a 6 bolt crank

superbeef1000 · August 31st, 2007, 04:10 AM

the romeo has 11 bolt valve covers

AnglicoGT98 · August 31st, 2007, 07:09 AM

+1. the best way to tell is that the romeo heads have 11 bolts in the valve cover and the windsor have 13. That simple. To my knowledge there isn't a HP difference in the two. Also, windsor have a press on camgear and romeo has a bolt through it. And like Matt said, romeo was from 96-98 and mid 01-04. Windsor was 99-mid 01. Just count the bolts...

acmillr · August 31st, 2007, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Blackblurr_00GT

THe windsors blocks are stonger b/c most of them came with and 8 bolt crank where as the romeo block came with a 6 bolt crank

What???????????????

SOME of the Windsor blocks came with an 8 bolt CAST truck crank, because Windsor could not produce enough parts to keep up with demand and Romeo was not building anything during this time frame. If you believe the Windsor design to be superior to the Romeo, you have not been into these motors. There are only two major differences- 1. The main bearings have a different design and 2. the Romeo has cam girdles as opposed to the Windsors cam straps.
The amount of misinformation that gets spit out around here is retarded sometimes.

acmillr · August 31st, 2007, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by mustangmanic

wow! they put romeos in some gt's? so that means there r some gt's driving around out there with an iron block and they dont even kno it? thats means for some serious HP!!! haha

All GT's have an iron block.......

DrHolliday · August 31st, 2007, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by acmillr

Originally Posted by mustangmanic

wow! they put romeos in some gt's? so that means there r some gt's driving around out there with an iron block and they dont even kno it? thats means for some serious HP!!! haha

All GT's have an iron block.......

I was gunna say the same thing.

As for the best way to tell, romeo has 11 valve cover bolts, windsor has more. I beleive its 13 but I could be wrong. Its been a while since I ready it.

I also know that my GT had the romeo block and the vin had X in it.

bossman2kgt · August 31st, 2007, 05:11 PM

So does somebody know for sure what the x stands for in the vin number? Not doubting you Holliday just making sure.

sstang · August 31st, 2007, 10:22 PM

I believe the X stands for the 2V motor, I could be wrong?

ma67cpe · September 1st, 2007, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by bossman2kgt

So does somebody know for sure what the x stands for in the vin number? Not doubting you Holliday just making sure.

try this

https://www.fleet.ford.com/maintenan...ls/default.asp

Badasstang281 · September 1st, 2007, 01:23 PM

Will put in me vin and it said 225 HP is that right

Engine Type - 8th Position
VIN Code: X
Engine: 4.6 L
Cylinders: 8
Fuel: Gasoline
Horsepower: 225 HORSEPOWER

bossman2kgt · September 1st, 2007, 01:39 PM

After punchin in my vin it also just says vin code:X. So still not sure.

acmillr · September 1st, 2007, 05:08 PM

X supposedly means Windsor while the W means Romeo- I always thought that was a little backwards.

August 30th, 2007, 10:31 PM	#1
mystang0673 Hardcore Enthusiast 12.0@113 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,658	romeo or windsor How can you tell if you have the romeo or windsor block.... if im not mistaken. the romeo has a w for the 8th digit in the vin and the windsor has an x as the 8th. if im wrong please correct me

August 30th, 2007, 10:36 PM	#2
mustangmanic Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.334 @ 106.27 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,760	wat is the difference b/t the 2? isnt the romeo used in the cobra? __________________ Accufab 75mm TB and Pleunm, JLT cai, Steeda Caster Chamber Plates, Eibach Sportline Springs, Tokico Shocks/Struts, Steeda Tri-Ax, FRPP Aluminum Driveshaft, FRPP 3.73's, Hooker LT's, Hooker O/R X, Pypes Violator Catback, SCT Xcal 2. 280rwhp 302.1rwtq

August 30th, 2007, 11:12 PM	#3
mystang0673 Hardcore Enthusiast 12.0@113 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,658	yeah. but i think it was put in some gts also. kinda randomly. like they moved factories or something like that and used some of the romeo blocks for gts. they handle more hp and the windsor block __________________

August 30th, 2007, 11:58 PM	#4
mustangmanic Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.334 @ 106.27 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,760	wow! they put romeos in some gt's? so that means there r some gt's driving around out there with an iron block and they dont even kno it? thats means for some serious HP!!! haha __________________ Accufab 75mm TB and Pleunm, JLT cai, Steeda Caster Chamber Plates, Eibach Sportline Springs, Tokico Shocks/Struts, Steeda Tri-Ax, FRPP Aluminum Driveshaft, FRPP 3.73's, Hooker LT's, Hooker O/R X, Pypes Violator Catback, SCT Xcal 2. 280rwhp 302.1rwtq

August 31st, 2007, 12:12 AM	#5
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,523	Romeo was used from 96-98 and then mid 01-04 in the GTs and read this Clicky __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals.

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August 31st, 2007, 12:18 AM	#6
mustangmanic Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.334 @ 106.27 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,760	ooooo ok... so who makes the termi blocks? __________________ Accufab 75mm TB and Pleunm, JLT cai, Steeda Caster Chamber Plates, Eibach Sportline Springs, Tokico Shocks/Struts, Steeda Tri-Ax, FRPP Aluminum Driveshaft, FRPP 3.73's, Hooker LT's, Hooker O/R X, Pypes Violator Catback, SCT Xcal 2. 280rwhp 302.1rwtq

August 31st, 2007, 12:47 AM	#7
bossman2kgt Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wichita, Ks Posts: 1,286	Heres some good readin. http://www.mustangandfords.com/techa...or_blocks.html

August 31st, 2007, 01:31 AM	#8
mystang0673 Hardcore Enthusiast 12.0@113 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,658	that article didnt really help me much on how to determine if i have a romeo or windsor. lol. but thanks for tryin. maybe i didnt understand it correctly and you can point somethin out for me __________________

August 31st, 2007, 03:49 AM	#9
Blackblurr_00GT Regular Y2K GT 13.3@103 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ada Oklahoma Posts: 350	THe windsors blocks are stonger b/c most of them came with and 8 bolt crank where as the romeo block came with a 6 bolt crank __________________ Studies show that 92% of kids listen to rap. If you are one of the 8% who still listens to real music put this in your signature.

August 31st, 2007, 04:10 AM	#10
superbeef1000 Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: mesa , arizona Posts: 955	the romeo has 11 bolt valve covers __________________ a bunch of stuff to make my car faster http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...e-member-1497/

August 31st, 2007, 07:09 AM	#11
AnglicoGT98 Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 630	+1. the best way to tell is that the romeo heads have 11 bolts in the valve cover and the windsor have 13. That simple. To my knowledge there isn't a HP difference in the two. Also, windsor have a press on camgear and romeo has a bolt through it. And like Matt said, romeo was from 96-98 and mid 01-04. Windsor was 99-mid 01. Just count the bolts... __________________ Parting out 2003 SVT Cobra Air/Fuel http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html Engine http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...003-cobra.html

August 31st, 2007, 05:11 PM	#15
bossman2kgt Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wichita, Ks Posts: 1,286	So does somebody know for sure what the x stands for in the vin number? Not doubting you Holliday just making sure.

August 31st, 2007, 10:22 PM	#16
sstang Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 171	I believe the X stands for the 2V motor, I could be wrong?

September 1st, 2007, 01:23 PM	#18
Badasstang281 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 385	Will put in me vin and it said 225 HP is that right Engine Type - 8th Position VIN Code: X Engine: 4.6 L Cylinders: 8 Fuel: Gasoline Horsepower: 225 HORSEPOWER __________________ BBK cai P&P 75mmtb P&P plenum BASSANI exhaust MAC x-pipe NO CAT"S ACCEL direct fire coils NGK iridium spark plugs lX7 Eibach pro-kit springs

September 1st, 2007, 01:39 PM	#19
bossman2kgt Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wichita, Ks Posts: 1,286	After punchin in my vin it also just says vin code:X. So still not sure.

September 1st, 2007, 05:08 PM	#20
acmillr MM's Mad Scientist 2003 GT Street Fast 16.9@76MPH Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,393	X supposedly means Windsor while the W means Romeo- I always thought that was a little backwards. __________________

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