Underdrive pulley question

neckbonekat · September 3rd, 2007, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by ujslost

some ppl say its not as bad a problem on the 4.6, but on the 5.0 it was a problem the. the water pump doesnt turn as fast as it needs to.

OK. I had heard that about the 5.0 but not the 4.6.

nikbait · September 4th, 2007, 02:02 AM

Ok that makes me feel better. What pullies are recommended and are there varietie? I have read about piggy back vs non piggy back, what does that mean..

the real shocker · September 4th, 2007, 01:09 PM

I have piggybacks, my car runs great, and i approve this message

nikbait · September 4th, 2007, 01:23 PM

Ok thanks. So what is the difference tho?

the real shocker · September 4th, 2007, 01:27 PM

my crank pully attaches piggy back to my stock balancer....instead of replacing it

nikbait · September 4th, 2007, 01:51 PM

Ah. ok.

04GTAMPA · September 4th, 2007, 02:18 PM

There's one thing in which both local shops I got to agreed on... The only broken oil pumps they've seen it's been with the NON-piggy back style like steeda's... For that reason, they prefer the piggy back style to keep the right "balance" and pressure. Yes there is some parasitic loss due to the extra weight, but still worth keeping it safe. That's what I've heard.

nikbait · September 4th, 2007, 02:24 PM

Ok. thanks.

neckbonekat · September 4th, 2007, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by 04GTAMPA

There's one thing in which both local shops I got to agreed on... The only broken oil pumps they've seen it's been with the NON-piggy back style like steeda's... For that reason, they prefer the piggy back style to keep the right "balance" and pressure. Yes there is some parasitic loss due to the extra weight, but still worth keeping it safe. That's what I've heard.

Never heard that before. I've heard the piggy backs break and warp easier. I've even heard stories of them coming off a high speeds or WOT, but never heard anyone that knows thier stuff recommend them. Interesting!

04GTAMPA · September 4th, 2007, 04:38 PM

Interesting for sure. I came to them asking them for a non-piggy back to get rid of mine and they both told me the same...

I'm keeping the BBK AC gave me!

02StangGToWNEr · September 4th, 2007, 05:15 PM

This is the way I see it, though it's just my opinion on this:

Steeda = Works exclusively with Ford

BBK = Doesn't

Therefore I trust that Steeda knows what's appropriate for the 4.6 set-up, and what's not appropriate or harmful. That's just how I see it though, but it's all opinion.

04GTAMPA · September 5th, 2007, 10:32 AM

Now I'm afraid to put fuel in my car....

Does ford makes it's own fuel? :wink

Just because they only work with Ford doesn't mean they are the best at it. In fact, I would feel more comfortable with knowing that the parts I buy are trusted by more than just Ford owners. Trust me, Ford is not the best out there, I'm sure you know....

I respect your opinion BTW. I'm must throwing mine out there as well.

00vabchgt · September 5th, 2007, 11:31 AM

i've been running a set of March piggy-back style UDP's for about a year and i haven't had any issues with them at all.

02StangGToWNEr · September 5th, 2007, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by 04GTAMPA

Now I'm afraid to put fuel in my car....

Does ford makes it's own fuel? :wink

Just because they only work with Ford doesn't mean they are the best at it. In fact, I would feel more comfortable with knowing that the parts I buy are trusted by more than just Ford owners. Trust me, Ford is not the best out there, I'm sure you know....

I respect your opinion BTW. I'm must throwing mine out there as well.

I understand that, but i'm just saying that since they work with Ford, they obviously get a better idea of what will work well on Ford Vehicles. Now I understand other company's may know a thing or 2 also, but Steeda kinda gets a closer look, and has the inside scoop on things. But do what ya want bro, it's all good man.

stanglifemike · September 5th, 2007, 03:49 PM

I've been running Steeda udp on my 98 for a few years with no problems. Now I also Steeda pullies on my 06. A great mod in my opinion, better mpg and better rwhp.

Novanutcase · July 18th, 2008, 04:34 AM

Opinions on a set of these?

John

Doc8224 · July 18th, 2008, 05:38 AM

you won't have overheating problems because the steeda UDP's have a bigger water pump pulley to compensate for the underdrive. The Mach's have the same size alternator pulley as the steeda kit so I doubt you will have alternator issues either. The mods that free up horsepower are some of the best because they let the engine spin up easier, i.e. light weight flywheel, udp's, etc

KhaosGT · July 18th, 2008, 11:48 AM

steeda pullies ftw, well known name and cheaper

September 4th, 2007, 01:09 PM	#23
the real shocker Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.00 @ 105 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jackson, MS Posts: 1,763	I have piggybacks, my car runs great, and i approve this message __________________

September 4th, 2007, 01:23 PM	#24
nikbait Enthusiast 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kuna, Idaho Posts: 543	Ok thanks. So what is the difference tho? __________________ MACH 1 MAMA 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 5 Speed, IUP, MGW Short Shifter, 8" Chrome Shorty Antenna, MRT Hood Struts, C&L CAI

September 4th, 2007, 01:27 PM	#25
the real shocker Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.00 @ 105 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jackson, MS Posts: 1,763	my crank pully attaches piggy back to my stock balancer....instead of replacing it __________________

September 4th, 2007, 01:51 PM	#26
nikbait Enthusiast 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kuna, Idaho Posts: 543	Ah. ok. __________________ MACH 1 MAMA 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 5 Speed, IUP, MGW Short Shifter, 8" Chrome Shorty Antenna, MRT Hood Struts, C&L CAI

September 4th, 2007, 02:18 PM	#27
04GTAMPA Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 2,260	There's one thing in which both local shops I got to agreed on... The only broken oil pumps they've seen it's been with the NON-piggy back style like steeda's... For that reason, they prefer the piggy back style to keep the right "balance" and pressure. Yes there is some parasitic loss due to the extra weight, but still worth keeping it safe. That's what I've heard. __________________

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September 4th, 2007, 02:02 AM	#22
nikbait Enthusiast 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kuna, Idaho Posts: 543	Ok that makes me feel better. What pullies are recommended and are there varietie? I have read about piggy back vs non piggy back, what does that mean..

September 4th, 2007, 02:24 PM	#28
nikbait Enthusiast 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kuna, Idaho Posts: 543	Ok. thanks. __________________ MACH 1 MAMA 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 5 Speed, IUP, MGW Short Shifter, 8" Chrome Shorty Antenna, MRT Hood Struts, C&L CAI

September 4th, 2007, 04:38 PM	#30
04GTAMPA Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 2,260	Interesting for sure. I came to them asking them for a non-piggy back to get rid of mine and they both told me the same... I'm keeping the BBK AC gave me! __________________

September 4th, 2007, 05:15 PM	#31
02StangGToWNEr Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,667	This is the way I see it, though it's just my opinion on this: Steeda = Works exclusively with Ford BBK = Doesn't Therefore I trust that Steeda knows what's appropriate for the 4.6 set-up, and what's not appropriate or harmful. That's just how I see it though, but it's all opinion.

September 5th, 2007, 10:32 AM	#32
04GTAMPA Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 2,260	Now I'm afraid to put fuel in my car.... Does ford makes it's own fuel? :wink Just because they only work with Ford doesn't mean they are the best at it. In fact, I would feel more comfortable with knowing that the parts I buy are trusted by more than just Ford owners. Trust me, Ford is not the best out there, I'm sure you know.... I respect your opinion BTW. I'm must throwing mine out there as well. __________________

September 5th, 2007, 03:49 PM	#35
stanglifemike MM Fanatic 06 GT & 98 GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 3,278	I've been running Steeda udp on my 98 for a few years with no problems. Now I also Steeda pullies on my 06. A great mod in my opinion, better mpg and better rwhp. __________________ 98 GT: Accufab, Steeda, BBk, Mac, FlowMaster, Moser, Ford Racing, American Racing, Nitto DR's, Eibach, SCT, FPS 06 GT: JLT, SCT, FRPP/Borla, Pypes, Steeda, BamaChips, Deez Nutz RadMustangs Store

July 18th, 2008, 04:34 AM	#36
Novanutcase Regular 2003 GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 351	Opinions on a set of these? John __________________ '03 GT, Max Motorsports Max Grip Box, Wilwood SLP 6 front/DL4 rear Big Brake Kit, Corbeau Racing Seats, MGW Short Shifter, MAC Long Tube Headers/Prochamber mid/ Flowmaster 40, FRPP 4.10, TrickFlow Diff Cover/75mm TB/Plenum, Moser 31 spline Axles, UDP

July 18th, 2008, 05:38 AM	#37
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: N.W. Arkansas Posts: 3,039	you won't have overheating problems because the steeda UDP's have a bigger water pump pulley to compensate for the underdrive. The Mach's have the same size alternator pulley as the steeda kit so I doubt you will have alternator issues either. The mods that free up horsepower are some of the best because they let the engine spin up easier, i.e. light weight flywheel, udp's, etc __________________ *Gone To Basic Training*

July 18th, 2008, 11:48 AM	#38
KhaosGT Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 819	steeda pullies ftw, well known name and cheaper __________________ 2004 Black Mustang Gt "I'm a agent of chaos" -Joker,Dark Knight

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