VT Stage 3 Heads

TheBusher · September 10th, 2007, 01:03 PM

When I go onto VT's website and look their heads, the stage 3 heads say "not recommended for stock bore". What would be the reason for this??? Also if it says I would need to bore my engine, would a stroker kit suffice, or would I need to bore it???

00SlvrStang · September 10th, 2007, 01:12 PM

i would assume you would have to bore because of the amount of air they flow. a stroker kit wouldnt help with that.

White99stang · September 10th, 2007, 01:25 PM

you can either big bore it out, stroke it which has .030 bore or just bore it .030 to a 283.

TheBusher · September 10th, 2007, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by 00SlvrStang

i would assume you would have to bore because of the amount of air they flow. a stroker kit wouldnt help with that.

Why wouldn't stroking help with air flow??? Wouldn't it draw in more air because of the larger displacement regardless of how you get the larger displacement???

00SlvrStang · September 10th, 2007, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by TheBusher

Originally Posted by 00SlvrStang

i would assume you would have to bore because of the amount of air they flow. a stroker kit wouldnt help with that.

Why wouldn't stroking help with air flow??? Wouldn't it draw in more air because of the larger displacement regardless of how you get the larger displacement???

Sorry misspoke. My head was somewhere else. Stroking increases piston speed which increases ring wear so for a DD might not be your best choice. If your main goal is going to be track duty stroking is good because of the torque advantage.

MustangMatt96GT · September 10th, 2007, 04:26 PM

Busher, you dont want stage 3 heads for ur daily driver. And when a modular motor is bored, the airflow changes drastically! I would say stick with stock stroke, and VT Stage1-2 heads. Or go with a big bore 3.700 inch big bore and then teh stage 3s. Also first you need to come down to denver sometime!

TheBusher · September 10th, 2007, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

Busher, you dont want stage 3 heads for ur daily driver. And when a modular motor is bored, the airflow changes drastically! I would say stick with stock stroke, and VT Stage1-2 heads. Or go with a big bore 3.700 inch big bore and then teh stage 3s. Also first you need to come down to denver sometime!

Dude, I'm movin' to Denver in about 6 weeks, give or take a little!!! I've got a new good paying job, so I'll start modding real soon. I'm planning on 4.10's, Xcal2, SLP longtubes, O/R prochamber, & SLP LM2 for this fall/winter. I think I'm gonna purchase them all in one shot so I can have my tuner tuned for my mods. You wanna help me w/the install??? I'm also havin' another buddy on these forums help, his names Gunny. He hangs out in the 05+ forums.

I drove his mustang a while back... OMG!!! FFFAAASSSTTT!!! And it was also having trouble back then too, the placed he got it tuned at pretty much fucked him a good one...

neckbonekat · September 10th, 2007, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by TheBusher

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

Busher, you dont want stage 3 heads for ur daily driver. And when a modular motor is bored, the airflow changes drastically! I would say stick with stock stroke, and VT Stage1-2 heads. Or go with a big bore 3.700 inch big bore and then teh stage 3s. Also first you need to come down to denver sometime!

Dude, I'm movin' to Denver in about 6 weeks, give or take a little!!! I've got a new good paying job, so I'll start modding real soon. I'm planning on 4.10's, Xcal2, SLP longtubes, O/R prochamber, & SLP LM2 for this fall/winter. I think I'm gonna purchase them all in one shot so I can have my tuner tuned for my mods. You wanna help me w/the install??? I'm also havin' another buddy on these forums help, his names Gunny. He hangs out in the 05+ forums.

I drove his mustang a while back... OMG!!! FFFAAASSSTTT!!! And it was also having trouble back then too, the placed he got it tuned at pretty much fucked him a good one...

Hey Matt it looks like you will have some good competition to race soon instead of your sister's explorer. LOL

TheBusher · September 10th, 2007, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by neckbonekat

Originally Posted by TheBusher

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

Busher, you dont want stage 3 heads for ur daily driver. And when a modular motor is bored, the airflow changes drastically! I would say stick with stock stroke, and VT Stage1-2 heads. Or go with a big bore 3.700 inch big bore and then teh stage 3s. Also first you need to come down to denver sometime!

Dude, I'm movin' to Denver in about 6 weeks, give or take a little!!! I've got a new good paying job, so I'll start modding real soon. I'm planning on 4.10's, Xcal2, SLP longtubes, O/R prochamber, & SLP LM2 for this fall/winter. I think I'm gonna purchase them all in one shot so I can have my tuner tuned for my mods. You wanna help me w/the install??? I'm also havin' another buddy on these forums help, his names Gunny. He hangs out in the 05+ forums.

I drove his mustang a while back... OMG!!! FFFAAASSSTTT!!! And it was also having trouble back then too, the placed he got it tuned at pretty much fucked him a good one...

Hey Matt it looks like you will have some good competition to race soon instead of your sister's explorer. LOL

Yeah he puts down 461 rwhp & 444 rwtq. He's got lots of suspension goodies and much more. Very sic car!

MustangMatt96GT · September 10th, 2007, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by neckbonekat

Hey Matt it looks like you will have some good competition to race soon instead of your sister's explorer. LOL

And busher! Hell yeah ill help on the install! I have talked to gunny before too! ANyway colordado mustang secialites installed my 4.10s cheap! Just buy the gears first, and then bring them to them, it cost me 260 for the 4.10s just for the gears. Ask for Sean!

Anyway I think ill give u a run for ur money right now at the track! lol and once my heads and cams are in ill eat u alive! lol What part of denver u moving to?

TheBusher · September 11th, 2007, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

Originally Posted by neckbonekat

Hey Matt it looks like you will have some good competition to race soon instead of your sister's explorer. LOL

And busher! Hell yeah ill help on the install! I have talked to gunny before too! ANyway colordado mustang secialites installed my 4.10s cheap! Just buy the gears first, and then bring them to them, it cost me 260 for the 4.10s just for the gears. Ask for Sean!

Anyway I think ill give u a run for ur money right now at the track! lol and once my heads and cams are in ill eat u alive! lol What part of denver u moving to?

Movin' to Littleton. Yeah you probably do give me a pretty good run. But just wait untill I start moddin', heh, heh. I'm hoping to have a KB by next summer/fall!

2000stangGT · September 11th, 2007, 12:53 AM

stage 3 is definitely too high for a DD probably even for a stock block.

MustangMatt96GT · September 11th, 2007, 02:36 PM

I think u need to take it to the track next weds and race me! I would say tommorow but I have the flu so I cant go, not to mention my wheels studs arnt long enough so I got to replace them!

02StangGToWNEr · September 11th, 2007, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

I think u need to take it to the track next weds and race me! I would say tommorow but I have the flu so I cant go, not to mention my wheels studs arnt long enough so I got to replace them!

Race him anyway. That way you can say you beat him, and you were even sick that day. It'll give you more bragging rights.

limited · September 11th, 2007, 05:31 PM

I think they require a larger bore to unshroud the valves

TheBusher · September 11th, 2007, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by limited

I think they require a larger bore to unshroud the valves

I C, makes sense

September 10th, 2007, 01:03 PM	#1
TheBusher Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Chevrolet Impala ??? Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 2,241 iTrader: 0 reviews	VT Stage 3 Heads When I go onto VT's website and look their heads, the stage 3 heads say "not recommended for stock bore". What would be the reason for this??? Also if it says I would need to bore my engine, would a stroker kit suffice, or would I need to bore it???

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White99stang MM's nicest mod, :) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 3,771 iTrader: 0 reviews	you can either big bore it out, stroke it which has .030 bore or just bore it .030 to a 283. __________________ 06 Dodge MegaCab Diesel 455rwhp/815rwtq REAL TRUCKS DON'T USE SPARK PLUGS

September 10th, 2007, 04:26 PM	#6
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,690 iTrader: 3 reviews	Busher, you dont want stage 3 heads for ur daily driver. And when a modular motor is bored, the airflow changes drastically! I would say stick with stock stroke, and VT Stage1-2 heads. Or go with a big bore 3.700 inch big bore and then teh stage 3s. Also first you need to come down to denver sometime! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

September 11th, 2007, 12:53 AM	#12
2000stangGT Enthusiast 2000 Mustang Gt 13.56 @ 106 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: CT Posts: 806 iTrader: 0 reviews	stage 3 is definitely too high for a DD probably even for a stock block. __________________ JLT - Accufab - MPH Heads - VT Stage 2 N/A cams Manley Valves/Springs - Centerforce Dual Friction BBK LT's - BBK o/r H - Bassani catback FRPP 4.10s - XCAL2 - BBK UDP's 306rwhp/333rwtq

September 11th, 2007, 02:36 PM	#13
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,690 iTrader: 3 reviews	I think u need to take it to the track next weds and race me! I would say tommorow but I have the flu so I cant go, not to mention my wheels studs arnt long enough so I got to replace them! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

September 10th, 2007, 01:12 PM	#2
00SlvrStang Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 342 iTrader: 0 reviews	i would assume you would have to bore because of the amount of air they flow. a stroker kit wouldnt help with that.

September 11th, 2007, 05:31 PM	#15
limited Premium Member 99 limited edition vert Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tacoma,Washington Posts: 3,297 iTrader: 0 reviews	I think they require a larger bore to unshroud the valves

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