cams, heads, and stroker kit = total hp

01dutchGT · September 18th, 2007, 04:06 PM

What hp gain can i look for when i put on my forged 302 or 306 stroker kit, VT or MMR stage 2 heads and cams with new springs and valves.

Drgnracin72 · September 18th, 2007, 04:11 PM

you can expect between 300-315 rwhp with those mods.

01dutchGT · September 18th, 2007, 04:18 PM

ill be adding headers, sct tune soon so maybe alittle more huh?

01dutchGT · September 18th, 2007, 06:39 PM

I was hoping to get around 330-340 rwhp. Im going to be getting hooker longtubes, Sct custom tune when i do all this. Is that realistic with the mods i have and will be getting? If not what can i do, (besides s/c or t/c,) to get it up there as close as it can be.

2000stangGT · September 18th, 2007, 06:52 PM

well you lose a little power with a stroker....

it depends on what kind of dyno you go on, if you go on a dynojet or dynopack you should reach your numbers. on a mustang dyno you read a little less

Drgnracin72 · September 18th, 2007, 06:56 PM

i have a stroker motor with sage 2 vt heads and comp cams 270, custom tune, longtubes and all bolt ons. i have lower compression for forced induction and i dyno at 305 rwhp on a mustang dyno. your gonna make aorund that kind of power.

raceruler03 · September 18th, 2007, 06:59 PM

so humor me here, going with a stroker adds more torque right?

01dutchGT · September 18th, 2007, 07:02 PM

ya i would think by getting the stoker, it would increase my horse power? Im mainly getting it cause it will forged my bottom end and replace alot of parts that could break. with this combo of heads, cams, and stroker, it should give me a really deep and nice lope right?

Drgnracin72 · September 18th, 2007, 07:02 PM

yes, it just wont make as much top end horse power, but torque throughout the range is much better.

Drgnracin72 · September 18th, 2007, 07:04 PM

if all your wanting is lope, just do cams. and also why did you decide to go with the stroker? why not just keep the stock stroke and just put forged parts in it.

01dutchGT · September 18th, 2007, 07:12 PM

Im for sure doing the heads and cams. Stroker was just to forged the whole bottom end and i thought it would give me more hp and a better engine. Im not set on anything but the heads and cams for now....what should i do other then this to make my motor get to the 330 hp mark

Drgnracin72 · September 18th, 2007, 07:35 PM

nitrous, i say dont do the stroker kit. it wont make for a better engine. it wont help much at all. na/ 2v are the way to go if your wanting lots of power. the heads simply dont flow, so forced induction is the way to go. to get that kind of power n/a your gonna need to up the compression, bigger cams and bigger heads.

00vabchgt · September 18th, 2007, 07:57 PM

so for a DD, a stroker isn't recommended? i plan on going FI in the future, no spray, though. if a stroker's not going to help, i'd rather not spend the money on it and just keep the stock stroke

Drgnracin72 · September 18th, 2007, 08:01 PM

there really no need for it. if you want the extra inches go for a big bore setup, but the modulars have enough stroke as it is.

00vabchgt · September 18th, 2007, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by drgnracin72

there really no need for it. if you want the extra inches go for a big bore setup, but the modulars have enough stroke as it is.

that's what i was thinking. thanks, dgrn

CobraR · September 18th, 2007, 08:16 PM

i thought strokers gave you more hp but less torque because they raised compression? or am i totally wrong?

SWEET2KSTANG · September 18th, 2007, 08:22 PM

no the stroke is longer and in return adds a lot of torque. a stroker kit will be fine for what ever you want, you just have to build accordingly. it will ass hp, just more torque. you can build it to how ever you want and do whatever you want.

TheUNZippee! · September 18th, 2007, 08:38 PM

Stroked engines give you more bottom end torque, but rev slower than a short stroke motor.

If you have ever seen a crankshaft, picture the journal that the connecting rod bolts to. The rod pushing on this journal after the piston is fired downward from an ignition cycle is what rotates the crank. Try and correlate that to a lever prying on something.

If you now lengthen that throw (increasing stroke), you increase the force exerted on the crankshaft itself, thus increasing torque.

I made up this little crankshaft example:

It is changing the distance from that rod journal to the main bearing journal that changes stroke. Stroke being the distance the piston travels from TDC (Top Dead Center) to BDC (Bottom Dead Center)

SWEET2KSTANG · September 18th, 2007, 09:42 PM

she likes the longer stroke

they may not rev as fast, but always remeber that torque is doing the work and will help no matter what. either way, forged 4.6, 5.0 stroker, big bore,or what ever will make a better motor than stock. just build according to your wants and you will be happy.

CobraR · September 18th, 2007, 11:36 PM

thanks zip.

September 18th, 2007, 04:06 PM	#1
01dutchGT Regular 1965 Ford Mustang Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 481 iTrader: 0 reviews	cams, heads, and stroker kit = total hp What hp gain can i look for when i put on my forged 302 or 306 stroker kit, VT or MMR stage 2 heads and cams with new springs and valves. __________________ 2001 mustang gt 5 speed Full bolt ons with 4.10 gears. 1965 Mustang 302 with 4 Barrel edelbrock 600cfm, T5 transmission, Hurst short throw shifter. In the process of restoring it...

September 18th, 2007, 04:11 PM	#2
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	you can expect between 300-315 rwhp with those mods. __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

September 18th, 2007, 04:18 PM	#3
01dutchGT Regular 1965 Ford Mustang Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 481 iTrader: 0 reviews	ill be adding headers, sct tune soon so maybe alittle more huh? __________________ 2001 mustang gt 5 speed Full bolt ons with 4.10 gears. 1965 Mustang 302 with 4 Barrel edelbrock 600cfm, T5 transmission, Hurst short throw shifter. In the process of restoring it...

September 18th, 2007, 06:39 PM	#4
01dutchGT Regular 1965 Ford Mustang Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 481 iTrader: 0 reviews	I was hoping to get around 330-340 rwhp. Im going to be getting hooker longtubes, Sct custom tune when i do all this. Is that realistic with the mods i have and will be getting? If not what can i do, (besides s/c or t/c,) to get it up there as close as it can be. __________________ 2001 mustang gt 5 speed Full bolt ons with 4.10 gears. 1965 Mustang 302 with 4 Barrel edelbrock 600cfm, T5 transmission, Hurst short throw shifter. In the process of restoring it...

September 18th, 2007, 06:52 PM	#5
2000stangGT Enthusiast 2000 Mustang Gt 13.56 @ 106 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: CT Posts: 806 iTrader: 0 reviews	well you lose a little power with a stroker.... it depends on what kind of dyno you go on, if you go on a dynojet or dynopack you should reach your numbers. on a mustang dyno you read a little less __________________ JLT - Accufab - MPH Heads - VT Stage 2 N/A cams Manley Valves/Springs - Centerforce Dual Friction BBK LT's - BBK o/r H - Bassani catback FRPP 4.10s - XCAL2 - BBK UDP's 306rwhp/333rwtq

September 18th, 2007, 06:56 PM	#6
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	i have a stroker motor with sage 2 vt heads and comp cams 270, custom tune, longtubes and all bolt ons. i have lower compression for forced induction and i dyno at 305 rwhp on a mustang dyno. your gonna make aorund that kind of power. __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

September 18th, 2007, 06:59 PM	#7
raceruler03 Enthusiast 2000 mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: georgia Posts: 913 iTrader: 0 reviews	so humor me here, going with a stroker adds more torque right? __________________ http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...donecopy-1.jpg

September 18th, 2007, 07:02 PM	#8
01dutchGT Regular 1965 Ford Mustang Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 481 iTrader: 0 reviews	ya i would think by getting the stoker, it would increase my horse power? Im mainly getting it cause it will forged my bottom end and replace alot of parts that could break. with this combo of heads, cams, and stroker, it should give me a really deep and nice lope right? __________________ 2001 mustang gt 5 speed Full bolt ons with 4.10 gears. 1965 Mustang 302 with 4 Barrel edelbrock 600cfm, T5 transmission, Hurst short throw shifter. In the process of restoring it...

September 18th, 2007, 07:04 PM	#10
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	if all your wanting is lope, just do cams. and also why did you decide to go with the stroker? why not just keep the stock stroke and just put forged parts in it. __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

September 18th, 2007, 07:12 PM	#11
01dutchGT Regular 1965 Ford Mustang Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 481 iTrader: 0 reviews	Im for sure doing the heads and cams. Stroker was just to forged the whole bottom end and i thought it would give me more hp and a better engine. Im not set on anything but the heads and cams for now....what should i do other then this to make my motor get to the 330 hp mark __________________ 2001 mustang gt 5 speed Full bolt ons with 4.10 gears. 1965 Mustang 302 with 4 Barrel edelbrock 600cfm, T5 transmission, Hurst short throw shifter. In the process of restoring it...

September 18th, 2007, 07:35 PM	#12
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	nitrous, i say dont do the stroker kit. it wont make for a better engine. it wont help much at all. na/ 2v are the way to go if your wanting lots of power. the heads simply dont flow, so forced induction is the way to go. to get that kind of power n/a your gonna need to up the compression, bigger cams and bigger heads. __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

September 18th, 2007, 08:01 PM	#14
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	there really no need for it. if you want the extra inches go for a big bore setup, but the modulars have enough stroke as it is. __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

September 18th, 2007, 08:22 PM	#17
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	no the stroke is longer and in return adds a lot of torque. a stroker kit will be fine for what ever you want, you just have to build accordingly. it will ass hp, just more torque. you can build it to how ever you want and do whatever you want. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

September 18th, 2007, 08:38 PM	#18
TheUNZippee! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 61,816 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Stroked engines give you more bottom end torque, but rev slower than a short stroke motor. If you have ever seen a crankshaft, picture the journal that the connecting rod bolts to. The rod pushing on this journal after the piston is fired downward from an ignition cycle is what rotates the crank. Try and correlate that to a lever prying on something. If you now lengthen that throw (increasing stroke), you increase the force exerted on the crankshaft itself, thus increasing torque. I made up this little crankshaft example: It is changing the distance from that rod journal to the main bearing journal that changes stroke. Stroke being the distance the piston travels from TDC (Top Dead Center) to BDC (Bottom Dead Center) __________________

September 18th, 2007, 09:42 PM	#19
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	she likes the longer stroke they may not rev as fast, but always remeber that torque is doing the work and will help no matter what. either way, forged 4.6, 5.0 stroker, big bore,or what ever will make a better motor than stock. just build according to your wants and you will be happy. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

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