Mach 1 or cobra? (engine, that is)

energiesource · September 29th, 2007, 12:07 PM

so i can get a mach 1 engine with the transmission for about 6 grand
or i can get a cobra engine with the 6spd, driveshaft, fuel tank and lines, wiring, computer for about 5 grand more.

id be building the engine up anyway, and id probably put a turbo on, but still.

pa.ulB · September 29th, 2007, 12:16 PM

iam gonna guess thats new engine, because if its not i can get a low mile cobra engine with an eaton on it of about 5grand.

energiesource · September 29th, 2007, 12:16 PM

no, its not new
i cant find cobra engines for under 8 anywhere

lilmarc1988 · September 29th, 2007, 12:28 PM

Mach1 if u gonna build it up anyway why spend 5 grand more when that could go into a stroker kit twin turbos or other stuff? It'l be just as fast

energiesource · September 29th, 2007, 12:34 PM

do the sohc engines sound more aggressive with cams than the dohc?
i noticed that in some videos

01dutchGT · September 29th, 2007, 09:40 PM

where are yall finding all these engines cause ive been looking for some. where are yall finding a cobra engine with a eaton on it for 5g

03 R Code · September 29th, 2007, 10:05 PM

Keep an eye on e-bay for the 4v engines. There was one out of a Marauder a few weeks back for sale for under a grand. It was a teksid block, and that's a great deal...

The 2v vs. 4v idle will sound the same if the cams specs are the same. They do the same thing, open and close exhaust and intake valves. It can't make any more of an aggressive sound if it's the same sizes.

HessiaN257 · September 30th, 2007, 12:46 AM

It really comes down to whether you are going to do FI or not. If you aren't get the mach engine, because its aluminum. If you are planning on FI, go with the cobra engine because its already fully forged, with the iron block.

stanglifemike · September 30th, 2007, 01:10 AM

For 5k less I would definately go with the Mach motor

energiesource · September 30th, 2007, 02:12 AM

the t45 wont mount up with the cobra engine right?

02StangGToWNEr · September 30th, 2007, 02:47 AM

I would get the Cobra block, because it's cast iron, fully forged, and can handle a beating.

2001Mustang Saleen · September 30th, 2007, 10:33 AM

no if you get an 03/04 cobra motor you need the t-56 set up. I am pretty sure you can use the mach 1 motor wih the t-45 even though i think it is designed for the 3650. They are both five speeds so i dont think it would be an issue with the t-45 on the mach motor. If you plan on getting nitrous or doing forced induction i say go cobra motor. There is a set up on ebay right now for it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-...spagenameZWDVW

You can probably get it for under 5k and it only has 20k on the motor and it is complete. It also comes with the blower so its already pushing good power out of the gate

energiesource · September 30th, 2007, 11:36 AM

thanks
those t56 trannys are amazingly expensive though lol

banned · September 30th, 2007, 05:11 PM

im debating between the aluminum and iron blocks... the adavatnage the alluminuim being that it can be bored and repaired if one of my rods decided to redcorate...?

neckbonekat · September 30th, 2007, 05:13 PM

Is there a significant weight difference between the two engines?

HessiaN257 · September 30th, 2007, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by neckbonekat

Is there a significant weight difference between the two engines?

Well the Machs is aluminum and the cobra is cast iron.

Garhfer · September 30th, 2007, 05:16 PM

There is a weight difference, aluminum is lighter but it is weaker, iron blocks will hold a lot more power than aluminum blocks... I'd go with the cobra engine... but definitely find a cheaper one

energiesource · September 30th, 2007, 05:21 PM

i cant seem to find a cheap one
and building an engine is like building a computer
it costs way too much to do it yourself, you really dont save anything

Garhfer · September 30th, 2007, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by energiesource

i cant seem to find a cheap one
and building an engine is like building a computer
it costs way too much to do it yourself, you really dont save anything

It costs a hell of a lot less to build one yourself, wtf are you talking about?

energiesource · September 30th, 2007, 05:25 PM

well you can buy ones for like 5-6 grand
and i mean the block is like $300, the heads are $2000, the rotating assembly is another 2 grand, and all the other shit you need for it, it really doesnt end up to you saving any money

September 29th, 2007, 12:07 PM	#1
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	Mach 1 or cobra? (engine, that is) so i can get a mach 1 engine with the transmission for about 6 grand or i can get a cobra engine with the 6spd, driveshaft, fuel tank and lines, wiring, computer for about 5 grand more. id be building the engine up anyway, and id probably put a turbo on, but still. __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

September 29th, 2007, 12:16 PM	#2
pa.ulB Regular 2004 GT slow.... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: PA Posts: 415 iTrader: 0 reviews	iam gonna guess thats new engine, because if its not i can get a low mile cobra engine with an eaton on it of about 5grand. __________________ 2004 Crimson red GT saleen s/c, full bolt ons

September 29th, 2007, 12:16 PM	#3
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	no, its not new i cant find cobra engines for under 8 anywhere __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

September 29th, 2007, 12:28 PM	#4
lilmarc1988 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 mustang gt Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: lehigh acres, fl Posts: 1,457 iTrader: 0 reviews	Mach1 if u gonna build it up anyway why spend 5 grand more when that could go into a stroker kit twin turbos or other stuff? It'l be just as fast __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3112249

September 29th, 2007, 12:34 PM	#5
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	do the sohc engines sound more aggressive with cams than the dohc? i noticed that in some videos __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

September 29th, 2007, 09:40 PM	#6
01dutchGT Regular 1965 Ford Mustang Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 481 iTrader: 0 reviews	where are yall finding all these engines cause ive been looking for some. where are yall finding a cobra engine with a eaton on it for 5g __________________ 2001 mustang gt 5 speed Full bolt ons with 4.10 gears. 1965 Mustang 302 with 4 Barrel edelbrock 600cfm, T5 transmission, Hurst short throw shifter. In the process of restoring it...

September 29th, 2007, 10:05 PM	#7
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,104 iTrader: 0 reviews	Keep an eye on e-bay for the 4v engines. There was one out of a Marauder a few weeks back for sale for under a grand. It was a teksid block, and that's a great deal... The 2v vs. 4v idle will sound the same if the cams specs are the same. They do the same thing, open and close exhaust and intake valves. It can't make any more of an aggressive sound if it's the same sizes. __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

September 30th, 2007, 12:46 AM	#8
HessiaN257 Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT 13.9@101 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 805 iTrader: 0 reviews	It really comes down to whether you are going to do FI or not. If you aren't get the mach engine, because its aluminum. If you are planning on FI, go with the cobra engine because its already fully forged, with the iron block. __________________ 13.9@101 before some mods

September 30th, 2007, 01:10 AM	#9
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	For 5k less I would definately go with the Mach motor __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

September 30th, 2007, 02:12 AM	#10
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	the t45 wont mount up with the cobra engine right? __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

September 30th, 2007, 02:47 AM	#11
02StangGToWNEr Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,698 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would get the Cobra block, because it's cast iron, fully forged, and can handle a beating.

September 30th, 2007, 10:33 AM	#12
2001Mustang Saleen Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 148 iTrader: 0 reviews	no if you get an 03/04 cobra motor you need the t-56 set up. I am pretty sure you can use the mach 1 motor wih the t-45 even though i think it is designed for the 3650. They are both five speeds so i dont think it would be an issue with the t-45 on the mach motor. If you plan on getting nitrous or doing forced induction i say go cobra motor. There is a set up on ebay right now for it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-...spagenameZWDVW You can probably get it for under 5k and it only has 20k on the motor and it is complete. It also comes with the blower so its already pushing good power out of the gate

September 30th, 2007, 11:36 AM	#13
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	thanks those t56 trannys are amazingly expensive though lol __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

September 30th, 2007, 05:11 PM	#14
banned Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 461 iTrader: 0 reviews	im debating between the aluminum and iron blocks... the adavatnage the alluminuim being that it can be bored and repaired if one of my rods decided to redcorate...? __________________ Considering selling my car to fund my race car: take a look and tell me what you think. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post1041280

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September 30th, 2007, 05:16 PM	#17
Garhfer Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Conv. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edgewater, FL Posts: 1,793 iTrader: 0 reviews	There is a weight difference, aluminum is lighter but it is weaker, iron blocks will hold a lot more power than aluminum blocks... I'd go with the cobra engine... but definitely find a cheaper one __________________ 2004 GT Boosted by Vortech

September 30th, 2007, 05:21 PM	#18
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	i cant seem to find a cheap one and building an engine is like building a computer it costs way too much to do it yourself, you really dont save anything __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

September 30th, 2007, 05:25 PM	#20
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,527 iTrader: 1 reviews	well you can buy ones for like 5-6 grand and i mean the block is like $300, the heads are $2000, the rotating assembly is another 2 grand, and all the other shit you need for it, it really doesnt end up to you saving any money __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, 417hp/421tq, P1SC @ 6 psi(?), Custom grind cams, Steeda Triax shifter, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. 18x9/10 Flat Black FR500's, Mach C-pillars, bullitt side scoops/skirts.

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