Heads/Cams

MATT02GT · October 4th, 2007, 01:15 PM

Do you guys think its worth it to do a set of VT heads and some blower cams on my stock shortblock. Or is that asking too much with the factory block and a Procharger? Also for you guys with fully built motors, about how much do you have into the engine. Im trying to figure out whats the best way to go on a budget: build a motor or buy a shortblock and some heads?

00SlvrStang · October 4th, 2007, 02:09 PM

i would beef up the internals before trying to get any more out of the engine. you already have almost double the factory hp.

00vabchgt · October 4th, 2007, 02:52 PM

if you're planning on doing the labor yourself, you can just rebuild the stock engine. if you're having a shop do it, i'd just go with the shortblock and heads. i think you'll save on the labor. but i'd definitely beef up the internals before adding anymore HP

02StangGToWNEr · October 4th, 2007, 06:50 PM

It would definatly be worth it. And the sound of raw power from the beast will really be shown.

Drgnracin72 · October 4th, 2007, 08:11 PM

id do it at the same time you do your short block. no reason to now, its allready maxed out. or save that money form the heads and cams and just build the shortblock and the put more boost to it. and then later, when money permits, do the heads and cams

B0B · October 4th, 2007, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by drgnracin72

id do it at the same time you do your short block. no reason to now, its allready maxed out. or save that money form the heads and cams and just build the shortblock and the put more boost to it. and then later, when money permits, do the heads and cams

+1

i'd definately get some forged internals, if your block is good i think you'd be better off just getting a forged rotating assembly instead of a shortblock. your block is already seasoned and broken in.

but..

i dont know if you have to get your block bored out for the new stuff and i also dont know how much it would cost to get your engine bored, honed, assembled (bottom end) and balanced. those things i would definately look into first.

heads and cams can come after your engine is built to withstand that kind of raw power.

MATT02GT · October 4th, 2007, 10:14 PM

What are some good stroker kits for boost? Should I stay with 4.6 or punch it out to a 5.0? Im looking to get into the 600rwhp range when all is said and done. A blower swap will eventually come too. Im just getting bored with its power now, dont even feel fast anymore.

yojoe600 · October 4th, 2007, 10:17 PM

that damn horsepower bug... it jsut does thinks to people lol

B0B · October 5th, 2007, 01:04 AM

i've heard that a stock stroke will withstand the higher hosepower than a 5.0 stroker kit. if you stroke it, it will put more strain on the rods. you can get plenty out of the 4.6. you can get a forged 4.6 rotating assembly complete for under $1700

B0B · October 5th, 2007, 01:05 AM

^^ that will withstand 650+ RWHP

Drgnracin72 · October 5th, 2007, 08:43 AM

just keep the stock stroke. no reason to go with the stroker unless your wanting a lot more torque, and it doesnt really hurt your motor to stroke it. just casue a little more wera on backside of the piston and piston wall, but def not going to hurt your motor or diminish its life expectancy

MATT02GT · October 5th, 2007, 05:35 PM

So what are some of the best stroker kits out there??

MustangMatt96GT · October 5th, 2007, 05:45 PM

Ur right hand!

I couldnt resist! Anyway i would look into the Foxlake set ups. I wont order from VT, because it takes so long for everyting to ship from there.

04GTAMPA · October 5th, 2007, 05:48 PM

what if you're a lefty? huh???? Or even better, ambidextrous. Then you stroke really good!

on the 4.6, I would stay at it and just get some power out of it. Build that block and boost or spray the crap out of it if you really want some good torque.

Drgnracin72 · October 5th, 2007, 06:05 PM

if you must do a stroker, then look into dss, fox lake, chp, livenois, and a couple other ones. pretty much any of the big engine builders have kits, all it takes is a little searching. you decide whats best for you, not what we tell you is best

MATT02GT · October 5th, 2007, 06:12 PM

Im meant a fordged kit. Just swapping the internals with some forged stuff, I would only have to hone the block out right?

October 4th, 2007, 01:15 PM	#1
MATT02GT MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colo. Springs, CO Posts: 3,694 iTrader: 0 reviews	Heads/Cams Do you guys think its worth it to do a set of VT heads and some blower cams on my stock shortblock. Or is that asking too much with the factory block and a Procharger? Also for you guys with fully built motors, about how much do you have into the engine. Im trying to figure out whats the best way to go on a budget: build a motor or buy a shortblock and some heads? __________________ Its not how fast you drive, but how you drive fast. 2002 Mustang GT... Just The Usual Bolt-Ons Bolt on list in Garage..

October 4th, 2007, 08:11 PM	#5
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	id do it at the same time you do your short block. no reason to now, its allready maxed out. or save that money form the heads and cams and just build the shortblock and the put more boost to it. and then later, when money permits, do the heads and cams __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

October 4th, 2007, 10:14 PM	#7
MATT02GT MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colo. Springs, CO Posts: 3,694 iTrader: 0 reviews	What are some good stroker kits for boost? Should I stay with 4.6 or punch it out to a 5.0? Im looking to get into the 600rwhp range when all is said and done. A blower swap will eventually come too. Im just getting bored with its power now, dont even feel fast anymore. __________________ Its not how fast you drive, but how you drive fast. 2002 Mustang GT... Just The Usual Bolt-Ons Bolt on list in Garage..

October 5th, 2007, 01:04 AM	#9
B0B Boost gets you laid 2001 Mustang GT 12.93@113.7 (on the 18's) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milton, WA Posts: 2,601 iTrader: 2 reviews	i've heard that a stock stroke will withstand the higher hosepower than a 5.0 stroker kit. if you stroke it, it will put more strain on the rods. you can get plenty out of the 4.6. you can get a forged 4.6 rotating assembly complete for under $1700 __________________ '01 GT. Just a couple Bolt-ons. 0rwhp 0rwtq. Epic Turbo build in progress 2003 Rubicon (wheelin rig) 2008 Silverado 4x4 (towin rig/road queen) 2009 KTM 450 XC-W (Brap Brap!)

October 5th, 2007, 01:05 AM	#10
B0B Boost gets you laid 2001 Mustang GT 12.93@113.7 (on the 18's) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milton, WA Posts: 2,601 iTrader: 2 reviews	^^ that will withstand 650+ RWHP __________________ '01 GT. Just a couple Bolt-ons. 0rwhp 0rwtq. Epic Turbo build in progress 2003 Rubicon (wheelin rig) 2008 Silverado 4x4 (towin rig/road queen) 2009 KTM 450 XC-W (Brap Brap!)

October 4th, 2007, 02:09 PM	#2
00SlvrStang Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 342 iTrader: 0 reviews	i would beef up the internals before trying to get any more out of the engine. you already have almost double the factory hp.

October 4th, 2007, 06:50 PM	#4
02StangGToWNEr Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,698 iTrader: 0 reviews	It would definatly be worth it. And the sound of raw power from the beast will really be shown.

October 5th, 2007, 08:43 AM	#11
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	just keep the stock stroke. no reason to go with the stroker unless your wanting a lot more torque, and it doesnt really hurt your motor to stroke it. just casue a little more wera on backside of the piston and piston wall, but def not going to hurt your motor or diminish its life expectancy __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

October 5th, 2007, 05:35 PM	#12
MATT02GT MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colo. Springs, CO Posts: 3,694 iTrader: 0 reviews	So what are some of the best stroker kits out there?? __________________ Its not how fast you drive, but how you drive fast. 2002 Mustang GT... Just The Usual Bolt-Ons Bolt on list in Garage..

October 5th, 2007, 05:45 PM	#13
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,168 iTrader: 3 reviews	Ur right hand! I couldnt resist! Anyway i would look into the Foxlake set ups. I wont order from VT, because it takes so long for everyting to ship from there. __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

October 5th, 2007, 05:48 PM	#14
04GTAMPA Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang SVT Cobra Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 2,751 iTrader: 1 reviews	what if you're a lefty? huh???? Or even better, ambidextrous. Then you stroke really good! on the 4.6, I would stay at it and just get some power out of it. Build that block and boost or spray the crap out of it if you really want some good torque. __________________ Slow, really slow Cobra. Wanna see? MM Cobra Club Member #81 "TAMPA BAY AREA CREW"

October 5th, 2007, 06:05 PM	#15
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	if you must do a stroker, then look into dss, fox lake, chp, livenois, and a couple other ones. pretty much any of the big engine builders have kits, all it takes is a little searching. you decide whats best for you, not what we tell you is best __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

October 5th, 2007, 06:12 PM	#16
MATT02GT MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colo. Springs, CO Posts: 3,694 iTrader: 0 reviews	Im meant a fordged kit. Just swapping the internals with some forged stuff, I would only have to hone the block out right? __________________ Its not how fast you drive, but how you drive fast. 2002 Mustang GT... Just The Usual Bolt-Ons Bolt on list in Garage..

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