procharger or hellion

Badasstang281 · October 9th, 2007, 07:45 PM

What do you guys think my goal is 700whp. Should I go with a ati procharger F-1R. Or a hellion turbo kit.

sonicblue · October 9th, 2007, 07:47 PM

i would say it is pretty simple. go turbo it will make that power easy as long as you have a shitload of other supporting mods.

mustangmanic · October 9th, 2007, 07:51 PM

Make sure that you invest in some forged internals first... not just basic shit, i'm talkin forged crank, rods, and pistons. The block will handle over 1000hp no problem but not the internals. The crank is good until about 650 (for a little while lol).

Most def the Turbos... but if ur lookin for 700 hp, you could do it with a helion kit, but i would suggest the HP twin turbo kit.

Badasstang281 · October 9th, 2007, 07:53 PM

Ya I plan on building a motor. And the beauty of a hellion is I can drive to one of the manufacture. There is one like 6 miles from my place.

Badasstang281 · October 9th, 2007, 07:57 PM

Will I plan on running low boost for now. I will see like 420whp or so. What will go first with stock internals? And will a 04 cobra crank and rods work in my 2v?

mustangmanic · October 9th, 2007, 08:02 PM

the rods will go 1st for sure. I wouldnt risk it if you think you'll trash them... you could throw a rod (a rod ramming itself into the actual block)

sonicblue · October 9th, 2007, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Badasstang281

Will I plan on running low boost for now. I will see like 420whp or so. What will go first with stock internals? And will a 04 cobra crank and rods work in my 2v?

yes they will, thats what i am running. dont forget your fuel system and driveline upgrades.

TheBusher · October 9th, 2007, 08:16 PM

You can make that much power with either of those setups, but I would def go Hellion before Procharger. And, of course, like others have said... make sure your car can handle that power before you throw it down.

Also like mustangmanic said...

http://www.hpperformance.com/96-2004...rbosystems.htm

Badasstang281 · October 9th, 2007, 08:17 PM

Ya will with the hellion comes with a fuel pump and mass air meter, 39lb injectors. Do you think I will need fuel lines? And how much hp will the cobra crank and rods handle?

Badasstang281 · October 9th, 2007, 08:19 PM

ya the HP is like 3 hours away.

TheBusher · October 9th, 2007, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Badasstang281

Ya will with the hellion comes with a fuel pump and mass air meter, 39lb injectors. Do you think I will need fuel lines? And how much hp will the cobra crank and rods handle?

Not sure about fuel lines, but Cobra internals (by Cobra I assume you mean Termi)... 800+ rwhp

mustangmanic · October 9th, 2007, 08:20 PM

Ummm... well since ur not upgrading your pistons... id say maybe 500... but really man, you need to upgrade those pistons along with the rods and crank... with everything i'd say upwards or 650 with pistons, cobra crank and rods... you can always get stonger than cobra rods tho...

Badasstang281 · October 9th, 2007, 08:24 PM

ya I’m thinking of getting a mmr short block. But a friend of my has a 04 cobra he what’s to put a 302 mmr long block in so I might get he’s internals. If I do i'm going to get probe pistons.

Badasstang281 · October 9th, 2007, 08:26 PM

Do you think that a 62mm turbo will support 700hp

sonicblue · October 9th, 2007, 08:32 PM

im not sure if it will. but i know the 39lb injectors and just that pump they give you wont support it. its a good start and you can make some good power with it but if you want 700 you will need to upgrade your lines and probably get a cobra tank and gt pumps. the cobra rod and cranks with good pistons should be good well over 700.

October 9th, 2007, 07:45 PM	#1
Badasstang281 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 385 iTrader: 0 reviews	procharger or hellion What do you guys think my goal is 700whp. Should I go with a ati procharger F-1R. Or a hellion turbo kit. __________________ BBK cai P&P 75mmtb P&P plenum BASSANI exhaust MAC x-pipe NO CAT"S ACCEL direct fire coils NGK iridium spark plugs lX7 Eibach pro-kit springs

October 9th, 2007, 07:47 PM	#2
sonicblue Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: dalzell, south carolina Posts: 1,436 iTrader: 0 reviews	i would say it is pretty simple. go turbo it will make that power easy as long as you have a shitload of other supporting mods. __________________ 1990 5.0 getting all fixed up for next season 2004 mustang gt 520rwhp, 491 trq sold

October 9th, 2007, 07:51 PM	#3
mustangmanic MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT 13.334 @ 106.27 w/2.01 60' Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 3,107 iTrader: 2 reviews	Make sure that you invest in some forged internals first... not just basic shit, i'm talkin forged crank, rods, and pistons. The block will handle over 1000hp no problem but not the internals. The crank is good until about 650 (for a little while lol). Most def the Turbos... but if ur lookin for 700 hp, you could do it with a helion kit, but i would suggest the HP twin turbo kit. __________________

October 9th, 2007, 07:53 PM	#4
Badasstang281 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 385 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ya I plan on building a motor. And the beauty of a hellion is I can drive to one of the manufacture. There is one like 6 miles from my place. __________________ BBK cai P&P 75mmtb P&P plenum BASSANI exhaust MAC x-pipe NO CAT"S ACCEL direct fire coils NGK iridium spark plugs lX7 Eibach pro-kit springs

October 9th, 2007, 07:57 PM	#5
Badasstang281 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 385 iTrader: 0 reviews	Will I plan on running low boost for now. I will see like 420whp or so. What will go first with stock internals? And will a 04 cobra crank and rods work in my 2v? __________________ BBK cai P&P 75mmtb P&P plenum BASSANI exhaust MAC x-pipe NO CAT"S ACCEL direct fire coils NGK iridium spark plugs lX7 Eibach pro-kit springs

October 9th, 2007, 08:02 PM	#6
mustangmanic MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT 13.334 @ 106.27 w/2.01 60' Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 3,107 iTrader: 2 reviews	the rods will go 1st for sure. I wouldnt risk it if you think you'll trash them... you could throw a rod (a rod ramming itself into the actual block) __________________

October 9th, 2007, 08:16 PM	#8
TheBusher Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Chevrolet Impala ??? Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 2,241 iTrader: 0 reviews	You can make that much power with either of those setups, but I would def go Hellion before Procharger. And, of course, like others have said... make sure your car can handle that power before you throw it down. Also like mustangmanic said... http://www.hpperformance.com/96-2004...rbosystems.htm

October 9th, 2007, 08:17 PM	#9
Badasstang281 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 385 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ya will with the hellion comes with a fuel pump and mass air meter, 39lb injectors. Do you think I will need fuel lines? And how much hp will the cobra crank and rods handle? __________________ BBK cai P&P 75mmtb P&P plenum BASSANI exhaust MAC x-pipe NO CAT"S ACCEL direct fire coils NGK iridium spark plugs lX7 Eibach pro-kit springs

October 9th, 2007, 08:19 PM	#10
Badasstang281 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 385 iTrader: 0 reviews	ya the HP is like 3 hours away. __________________ BBK cai P&P 75mmtb P&P plenum BASSANI exhaust MAC x-pipe NO CAT"S ACCEL direct fire coils NGK iridium spark plugs lX7 Eibach pro-kit springs

October 9th, 2007, 08:20 PM	#12
mustangmanic MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT 13.334 @ 106.27 w/2.01 60' Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 3,107 iTrader: 2 reviews	Ummm... well since ur not upgrading your pistons... id say maybe 500... but really man, you need to upgrade those pistons along with the rods and crank... with everything i'd say upwards or 650 with pistons, cobra crank and rods... you can always get stonger than cobra rods tho... __________________

October 9th, 2007, 08:24 PM	#13
Badasstang281 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 385 iTrader: 0 reviews	ya I’m thinking of getting a mmr short block. But a friend of my has a 04 cobra he what’s to put a 302 mmr long block in so I might get he’s internals. If I do i'm going to get probe pistons. __________________ BBK cai P&P 75mmtb P&P plenum BASSANI exhaust MAC x-pipe NO CAT"S ACCEL direct fire coils NGK iridium spark plugs lX7 Eibach pro-kit springs

October 9th, 2007, 08:26 PM	#14
Badasstang281 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 385 iTrader: 0 reviews	Do you think that a 62mm turbo will support 700hp __________________ BBK cai P&P 75mmtb P&P plenum BASSANI exhaust MAC x-pipe NO CAT"S ACCEL direct fire coils NGK iridium spark plugs lX7 Eibach pro-kit springs

October 9th, 2007, 08:32 PM	#15
sonicblue Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: dalzell, south carolina Posts: 1,436 iTrader: 0 reviews	im not sure if it will. but i know the 39lb injectors and just that pump they give you wont support it. its a good start and you can make some good power with it but if you want 700 you will need to upgrade your lines and probably get a cobra tank and gt pumps. the cobra rod and cranks with good pistons should be good well over 700. __________________ 1990 5.0 getting all fixed up for next season 2004 mustang gt 520rwhp, 491 trq sold

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