which one to have Romeo or Windsor

shamntgmry · October 10th, 2007, 08:51 PM

which one is the one everyone wants or would rather have and what is the difference?

2kGT · October 10th, 2007, 09:06 PM

much easier to find heads and such for romeo.....the windsors come with the 8 bolt crank. i think the windsor was only made for the 99-00 model years as far as mod motors are concerned.....?

00SlvrStang · October 10th, 2007, 09:20 PM

windsor has the 8 bolt crank (most of them, some are out there with the 6 bolt), more bolts on the valve cover, cam gears are pressed on

that's all the differences i can think of off hand. they are the same engine with only minor differences. if you go with a forged crank in a romeo you can get the 8 bolt crank so that's not a big deal.

jivepepper · October 10th, 2007, 09:24 PM

Besides the 8 bolt on the windsor is cast.

shamntgmry · October 10th, 2007, 09:36 PM

i see, thought one came with a forged crank already....so I have a windsor in my 03 gt?

2kGT · October 10th, 2007, 09:37 PM

no, 00 was last year with windsor

MustangMatt96GT · October 10th, 2007, 09:41 PM

01 was. and none have forged internals. Windsor heads will fit on romeo blocks and romeo heads on windsor blocks. Just basically different factorys, more valve cover bolts, and press on gears. Aftermarket cams require bolt on gears so there is no problem there at all.

2kGT · October 10th, 2007, 09:44 PM

pretty sure the heads for romeo / windsor are not interchangeable

MustangMatt96GT · October 10th, 2007, 09:45 PM

no they are!

Eagle2000GT · October 10th, 2007, 09:52 PM

I have a Windsor.

Question: I heard that Ford changed the way the cast rods and pistons in 2001. That was supposed to be why Procharger recommended 12 lbs boost, but only 8 lbs for 2001-2004. Then again, I heard that oo have Windsor motors and 01 have Romeo. Do you supppose the difference in recommended boost is actually the difference in Windsor and Romeo?

Garhfer · October 11th, 2007, 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by Eagle2000GT

I have a Windsor.

Question: I heard that Ford changed the way the cast rods and pistons in 2001. That was supposed to be why Procharger recommended 12 lbs boost, but only 8 lbs for 2001-2004. Then again, I heard that oo have Windsor motors and 01 have Romeo. Do you supppose the difference in recommended boost is actually the difference in Windsor and Romeo?

Well, my engine occasionally sees 12lbs of boost and it's a 2004... I haven't had any problems in my year of having it... that's with a Vortech though, not a procharger...

acmillr · October 11th, 2007, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by 2kGT

pretty sure the heads for romeo / windsor are not interchangeable

They are interchangable.

acmillr · October 11th, 2007, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Eagle2000GT

I have a Windsor.

Question: I heard that Ford changed the way the cast rods and pistons in 2001. That was supposed to be why Procharger recommended 12 lbs boost, but only 8 lbs for 2001-2004. Then again, I heard that oo have Windsor motors and 01 have Romeo. Do you supppose the difference in recommended boost is actually the difference in Windsor and Romeo?

I have handled rods out of Romeo and Windsor blocks. So far, they have all contained Ford cracked rods.

acmillr · October 11th, 2007, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by shamntgmry

i see, thought one came with a forged crank already....so I have a windsor in my 03 gt?

The Windsor plant was forced place truck cranks in some of the motors during 00-01, because they couldn't keep up with production demands. The cranks are still cast- they just have 8 bolts. I have seen several 8 bolt cast cranks advertised as forged on Ebay. I am sure that unsuspecting/unknowledgable customers have gotten stuck with cast cranks after paying forged prices.

acmillr · October 11th, 2007, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by 2kGT

no, 00 was last year with windsor

01's were also Windsor motors. The Romeo plant was still recovering from fire damage when the 01 production year came around.

Smoothgrandmama · October 11th, 2007, 07:44 AM

acmiller with the smack down! x4!

Drgnracin72 · October 11th, 2007, 10:10 AM

everything acmiller said is right. and another thing, theres not one thats really better, not one that holds or handles more power. they are both basically the same with the things that matt pointed out

acmillr · October 11th, 2007, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by drgnracin72

everything acmiller said is right. and another thing, theres not one thats really better, not one that holds or handles more power. they are both basically the same with the things that matt pointed out

Quoted. I can't help it..............

SWEET2KSTANG · October 11th, 2007, 10:27 AM

showoff

acmillr · October 11th, 2007, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG

showoff

Got the fuel pump yet, asshole???????

October 10th, 2007, 08:51 PM	#1
shamntgmry Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 107 iTrader: 0 reviews	which one to have Romeo or Windsor which one is the one everyone wants or would rather have and what is the difference?

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2kGT Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 922 iTrader: 0 reviews	much easier to find heads and such for romeo.....the windsors come with the 8 bolt crank. i think the windsor was only made for the 99-00 model years as far as mod motors are concerned.....? __________________ Accufab 75mm tb & plenum MRT h-pipe Flowmaster catback FRPP king cobra clutch FRPP aluminum driveshaft FRPP 4.10 gear TA Perfromance girdle Steeda tri-ax shifter Moser 31 spline axles FRPP C Springs

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jivepepper I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 5,025 iTrader: 1 reviews	Besides the 8 bolt on the windsor is cast. __________________ 665/541 WHP/WTQ 4.6L SOHC 2V ON 93 OCTANE PUMP GAS. NO METH INJ., NO E85, NO RACE GAS, N2O BABY BOTTLES! TRAP=POWER: 11.01 @135, IN SUMMER HEAT, 1350' TRACK, 315/35/17 DR'S

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2kGT Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 922 iTrader: 0 reviews	no, 00 was last year with windsor __________________ Accufab 75mm tb & plenum MRT h-pipe Flowmaster catback FRPP king cobra clutch FRPP aluminum driveshaft FRPP 4.10 gear TA Perfromance girdle Steeda tri-ax shifter Moser 31 spline axles FRPP C Springs

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MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	01 was. and none have forged internals. Windsor heads will fit on romeo blocks and romeo heads on windsor blocks. Just basically different factorys, more valve cover bolts, and press on gears. Aftermarket cams require bolt on gears so there is no problem there at all. __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

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00SlvrStang Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 342 iTrader: 0 reviews	windsor has the 8 bolt crank (most of them, some are out there with the 6 bolt), more bolts on the valve cover, cam gears are pressed on that's all the differences i can think of off hand. they are the same engine with only minor differences. if you go with a forged crank in a romeo you can get the 8 bolt crank so that's not a big deal.

October 10th, 2007, 09:36 PM	#5
shamntgmry Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 107 iTrader: 0 reviews	i see, thought one came with a forged crank already....so I have a windsor in my 03 gt?

October 10th, 2007, 09:44 PM	#8
2kGT Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 922 iTrader: 0 reviews	pretty sure the heads for romeo / windsor are not interchangeable __________________ Accufab 75mm tb & plenum MRT h-pipe Flowmaster catback FRPP king cobra clutch FRPP aluminum driveshaft FRPP 4.10 gear TA Perfromance girdle Steeda tri-ax shifter Moser 31 spline axles FRPP C Springs

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MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,689 iTrader: 3 reviews	no they are! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions 25.3 SFI Chassis Build Never Lift Racecars

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Eagle2000GT I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 Mustang GT 12.73@111.36 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Shelbyville, IN Posts: 5,311 iTrader: 1 reviews	I have a Windsor. Question: I heard that Ford changed the way the cast rods and pistons in 2001. That was supposed to be why Procharger recommended 12 lbs boost, but only 8 lbs for 2001-2004. Then again, I heard that oo have Windsor motors and 01 have Romeo. Do you supppose the difference in recommended boost is actually the difference in Windsor and Romeo? __________________ ProCharger P-1SC, 9 psi, STD 396/383; Uncorrected 388/375; SAE 383/370 Mods list in Garage.

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Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,635 iTrader: 2 reviews	everything acmiller said is right. and another thing, theres not one thats really better, not one that holds or handles more power. they are both basically the same with the things that matt pointed out __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

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