UD Pulley on Mach 1

Mach Boy · October 15th, 2007, 09:32 PM

Ok so I've read all of the horror stories about UD Pulleys and the Mach 1 (for those of you that don't know it is linked to causing the oil pump gears to chip teeth and ultimately killing your motor.) A lot of the stuff I have read though is pretty dated and sketchy, because it was never directly linked from what I have read and it has happened with stock pulleys too. I called FRPP and they said they haven't heard of anything like that being a problem. So what are your opinions?

xx9gt6xx · October 15th, 2007, 09:38 PM

It's a load of crap. My buddy has had Steeda's on his Mach for over a year, beating the piss out of it and it runs like a champ! Also another one of my buddys put some Steeda's on his Mach 2 months ago w/ no problems. I have the Steeda's on my 01 Cobra (almost the same engine) and have had no issues.

Basically, it's a load of crap and we all noticed a good difference w/ the pulleys and are a great mod for the money! Go ahead and get them I say...

Mach Boy · October 16th, 2007, 12:26 AM

Anyone else. I'm leaning more and more toward it being coincidence.

neckbonekat · October 16th, 2007, 03:08 AM

It's one of those things where it happened to someone after they put on the pulleys so that is what they blamed it on. I heard the same rumors about the GT. If you want the pulleys get the pulleys. They will not break your car. :wink

chris1 · October 16th, 2007, 10:57 AM

i too have have pulleys on my mach 1 and from the information ive gathered it seems to be happening to cars that hit or exceed 7k rpm!(or thats how i took it) But then again alot of the veteran engine builders on that site(mach1registry.com) dont reccommend them at all, whether its street or drag use. Something that has to do with with vibrations caused by the pulley... ill post up the links so you can read but man youll be there all day..lol :sleep

04GTAMPA · October 16th, 2007, 11:08 AM

What I have heard is that the non-piggy back style, don't always have the perfect balancing as the same OEM or by using a piggy back style, therefore some cars take a change, some do fine with it. It could be true that it only happens at higher RPM's.

Mach Boy · October 16th, 2007, 02:04 PM

Yeah I've been on the Mach1registry and they seem to think it is installation, piggy backing, or harmonics. I spent at least an hour yesterday reading up on that stuff.

02StangGToWNEr · October 16th, 2007, 02:46 PM

So are you gonna buy them or what?? If you buy them, then let us know if you have any problems.

Mach Boy · October 16th, 2007, 10:37 PM

I'm not going to buy them. I'm going to let someone else buy them for me for Christmas

02StangGToWNEr · October 16th, 2007, 10:51 PM

Good idea!

weems · October 17th, 2007, 12:09 AM

i thought about it for mine , but i decided there are too many horror stories...

02StangGToWNEr · October 17th, 2007, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by weems

i thought about it for mine , but i decided there are too many horror stories...

Did you have to get a different grill delete when you installed your Cobra bumper???

chris1 · October 17th, 2007, 11:35 AM

The previous owner had them on my car for about a year....the stories ive heard have scared me to a point where im about to take them off and throw them s.o.b's away!

i advise you as they (mach1registry.com) have advised me that the gains are not worth the risk and seek that HP somewhere else...

neckbonekat · October 17th, 2007, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by chris1

The previous owner had them on my car for about a year....the stories ive heard have scared me to a point where im about to take them off and throw them s.o.b's away! i advise you as they (mach1registry.com) have advised me that the gains are not worth the risk and seek that HP somewhere else...

They've been on for over a year, yet you still believe the rumors? Aren't you proof that they aren't true?

chris1 · October 17th, 2007, 04:08 PM

you could say that its proof but the guy babied the living ish out of it and never took it to the track or anything...or so he says..lol but im still skeptical about the pump shattering. they had alot of information over there that made and again didnt make sense.

Mach Boy · October 17th, 2007, 05:32 PM

I've talked to a 3 different people in my area who have driven their cars really hard and haven't had a problem. FRPP has never even heard of the problem and Steeda doesn't even have a disclaimer and I'm sure that if there is any chance of it happening they would have taken the product off of the market for Machs. And the pump failing has happened with stock pulleys. It sounds to me like a few people happened to have the pulleys on the car and then it grew into a huge rumor that the pulleys were the problem. There's no direct evidence of the pulleys causing the pump to break.

And I'm always one to look at the bright side. If by chance the pump does fail and my engine goes to see baby Jesus, I get a new engine with forged internals.

chris1 · October 17th, 2007, 05:53 PM

di they have mach's? did steeda acknowledge they were machs or a standard gt? if not then i guess so bro...(confused--->) i thought so too, but i had assumed the cars that had problems were the drag queens! not the daily driver...who knows? i guess like neckbonekat said im a living testament to show that my pullies dont have an affect on the pump...oh well... tell me how it goes!

Mach Boy · October 17th, 2007, 10:38 PM

Well on AmericanMuscle.com they have a set of pulleys for the Cobra/Mach1 from Steeda.

02StangGToWNEr · October 17th, 2007, 11:25 PM

If anyone is that worried about it, then just ask a Ford tech if they see alot of Mustangs that have had problems from UDP's being installed.

Mach Boy · October 17th, 2007, 11:42 PM

Well the problem is it is only with Mach 1s, supposedly. And there aren't that many out there. Not to mention that the rumor has so many people scared of putting them on that there are that many more that don't have aftermarket pulleys. So the chances of finding a Ford tech that actually knows about it is slim.

October 15th, 2007, 09:32 PM	#1
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,820 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	UD Pulley on Mach 1 Ok so I've read all of the horror stories about UD Pulleys and the Mach 1 (for those of you that don't know it is linked to causing the oil pump gears to chip teeth and ultimately killing your motor.) A lot of the stuff I have read though is pretty dated and sketchy, because it was never directly linked from what I have read and it has happened with stock pulleys too. I called FRPP and they said they haven't heard of anything like that being a problem. So what are your opinions?

October 15th, 2007, 09:38 PM	#2
xx9gt6xx Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Macomb Twp, Michigan Posts: 309 iTrader: 0 reviews	It's a load of crap. My buddy has had Steeda's on his Mach for over a year, beating the piss out of it and it runs like a champ! Also another one of my buddys put some Steeda's on his Mach 2 months ago w/ no problems. I have the Steeda's on my 01 Cobra (almost the same engine) and have had no issues. Basically, it's a load of crap and we all noticed a good difference w/ the pulleys and are a great mod for the money! Go ahead and get them I say... __________________ ...Modded 1996 Ford Mustang GT... SOLD!! ...Modded 2001 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra... SOLD!! Now... ...Modded 2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra, Anniversary Edition.. www.cardomain.com/id/po1snd_u

October 16th, 2007, 03:08 AM	#4
neckbonekat I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2005 Cadillac STS V8 ???????????????? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 6,344 iTrader: 3 reviews	It's one of those things where it happened to someone after they put on the pulleys so that is what they blamed it on. I heard the same rumors about the GT. If you want the pulleys get the pulleys. They will not break your car. :wink __________________ ITEMS FOR SALE! 4.10 GEARS + BEARING KIT

October 16th, 2007, 10:57 AM	#5
chris1 Banned 2003 Ford Mach Traveling at the speed of a photon Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 851 iTrader: 0 reviews	i too have have pulleys on my mach 1 and from the information ive gathered it seems to be happening to cars that hit or exceed 7k rpm!(or thats how i took it) But then again alot of the veteran engine builders on that site(mach1registry.com) dont reccommend them at all, whether its street or drag use. Something that has to do with with vibrations caused by the pulley... ill post up the links so you can read but man youll be there all day..lol :sleep __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Under my Umbrella! [I][COLOR=#ff0000]Studies show that 99.9% of the kids on MM ask the same questions over and over again about performance parts yet do nothing after the advice is given because they're still in Highschool and suffer from no money syndrome. [/COLOR][/I]

October 16th, 2007, 11:08 AM	#6
04GTAMPA Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang SVT Cobra Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 2,751 iTrader: 1 reviews	What I have heard is that the non-piggy back style, don't always have the perfect balancing as the same OEM or by using a piggy back style, therefore some cars take a change, some do fine with it. It could be true that it only happens at higher RPM's. __________________ Slow, really slow Cobra. Wanna see? MM Cobra Club Member #81 "TAMPA BAY AREA CREW"

October 16th, 2007, 12:26 AM	#3
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,820 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	Anyone else. I'm leaning more and more toward it being coincidence.

October 16th, 2007, 02:04 PM	#7
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,820 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	Yeah I've been on the Mach1registry and they seem to think it is installation, piggy backing, or harmonics. I spent at least an hour yesterday reading up on that stuff.

October 16th, 2007, 02:46 PM	#8
02StangGToWNEr Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,698 iTrader: 0 reviews	So are you gonna buy them or what?? If you buy them, then let us know if you have any problems.

October 16th, 2007, 10:37 PM	#9
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,820 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	I'm not going to buy them. I'm going to let someone else buy them for me for Christmas

October 16th, 2007, 10:51 PM	#10
02StangGToWNEr Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,698 iTrader: 0 reviews	Good idea!

October 17th, 2007, 12:09 AM	#11
weems Tech Exchange Head Honcho 2003 SVT Cobra 11.70 @ 121 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Forsyth/Statesboro, GA Posts: 9,051 iTrader: 3 reviews	i thought about it for mine , but i decided there are too many horror stories...

October 17th, 2007, 11:35 AM	#13
chris1 Banned 2003 Ford Mach Traveling at the speed of a photon Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 851 iTrader: 0 reviews	The previous owner had them on my car for about a year....the stories ive heard have scared me to a point where im about to take them off and throw them s.o.b's away! i advise you as they (mach1registry.com) have advised me that the gains are not worth the risk and seek that HP somewhere else... __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Under my Umbrella! [I][COLOR=#ff0000]Studies show that 99.9% of the kids on MM ask the same questions over and over again about performance parts yet do nothing after the advice is given because they're still in Highschool and suffer from no money syndrome. [/COLOR][/I]

October 17th, 2007, 04:08 PM	#15
chris1 Banned 2003 Ford Mach Traveling at the speed of a photon Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 851 iTrader: 0 reviews	you could say that its proof but the guy babied the living ish out of it and never took it to the track or anything...or so he says..lol but im still skeptical about the pump shattering. they had alot of information over there that made and again didnt make sense. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Under my Umbrella! [I][COLOR=#ff0000]Studies show that 99.9% of the kids on MM ask the same questions over and over again about performance parts yet do nothing after the advice is given because they're still in Highschool and suffer from no money syndrome. [/COLOR][/I]

October 17th, 2007, 05:32 PM	#16
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,820 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	I've talked to a 3 different people in my area who have driven their cars really hard and haven't had a problem. FRPP has never even heard of the problem and Steeda doesn't even have a disclaimer and I'm sure that if there is any chance of it happening they would have taken the product off of the market for Machs. And the pump failing has happened with stock pulleys. It sounds to me like a few people happened to have the pulleys on the car and then it grew into a huge rumor that the pulleys were the problem. There's no direct evidence of the pulleys causing the pump to break. And I'm always one to look at the bright side. If by chance the pump does fail and my engine goes to see baby Jesus, I get a new engine with forged internals.

October 17th, 2007, 05:53 PM	#17
chris1 Banned 2003 Ford Mach Traveling at the speed of a photon Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 851 iTrader: 0 reviews	di they have mach's? did steeda acknowledge they were machs or a standard gt? if not then i guess so bro...(confused--->) i thought so too, but i had assumed the cars that had problems were the drag queens! not the daily driver...who knows? i guess like neckbonekat said im a living testament to show that my pullies dont have an affect on the pump...oh well... tell me how it goes! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Under my Umbrella! [I][COLOR=#ff0000]Studies show that 99.9% of the kids on MM ask the same questions over and over again about performance parts yet do nothing after the advice is given because they're still in Highschool and suffer from no money syndrome. [/COLOR][/I]

October 17th, 2007, 10:38 PM	#18
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,820 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	Well on AmericanMuscle.com they have a set of pulleys for the Cobra/Mach1 from Steeda.

October 17th, 2007, 11:25 PM	#19
02StangGToWNEr Hardcore Enthusiast 2006 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,698 iTrader: 0 reviews	If anyone is that worried about it, then just ask a Ford tech if they see alot of Mustangs that have had problems from UDP's being installed.

October 17th, 2007, 11:42 PM	#20
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,820 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	Well the problem is it is only with Mach 1s, supposedly. And there aren't that many out there. Not to mention that the rumor has so many people scared of putting them on that there are that many more that don't have aftermarket pulleys. So the chances of finding a Ford tech that actually knows about it is slim.

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