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Old October 27th, 2007, 03:15 PM   #1
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My 4.6 liter... should i supercharge?


I'm wanting to save up and buy me a 302 ford engine and start from it (tune it up)

but right now im out of a job due to surgery and slow housing market.. and im having to spend my saved money just to live (damn bills)

so needless to say, im pissed... but what should i do?

- just keep saving for the 302?
- or should i just mod up my 4.6l?
- how big can i bore a 4.6 (289cu-in as you know) to?
- should i just spend what money i got on small stuff (hoods, spoilers, CAI, exhaust etc.)?

im retarded for asking all this but im gettin tired of having what everyone else has lol

i just need something to do to it.. id rather have a fast-ass car than a pretty one..
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The best route would be either supercharge or turbocharge your 4.6L. If you go with the ford 302 your gonna end up wasting alot of money. I don't know too much about it, but both engines can probably handle about the same amount of HP before your going to have to start going forged internals, etc. So might as well stick with what you have now. Our 4.6's can be stroked & bored to 5.0L also.
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Re: My 4.6 liter... should i supercharge?


Originally Posted by Wesf90
I'm wanting to save up and buy me a 302 ford engine and start from it (tune it up)

but right now im out of a job due to surgery and slow housing market.. and im having to spend my saved money just to live (damn bills)

so needless to say, im pissed... but what should i do?

- just keep saving for the 302?
- or should i just mod up my 4.6l?
- how big can i bore a 4.6 (289cu-in as you know) to?
- should i just spend what money i got on small stuff (hoods, spoilers, CAI, exhaust etc.)?

im retarded for asking all this but im gettin tired of having what everyone else has lol

i just need something to do to it.. id rather have a fast-ass car than a pretty one..
These engines love boost. max bore and stroke I've seen with a 4.6L is 5.1L. It depends what you want. supercharging isn't cheap. Maybe a head swap would be cheaper? I never looked into it too much since my car was supercharged when I got it.

There's soooo many ways to go its mind boggling. 2v 3v 4v 4.6L 5.1L 5.4L 6.0L......
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s/c it with a good tune
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Don't supercharge or tb it unless your motor can take all the pressure and extra power. I've seen too many stangs blow out stock top and bottom ends from tbs or sps
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Re: My 4.6 liter... should i supercharge?


Originally Posted by Wesf90
I'm wanting to save up and buy me a 302 ford engine and start from it (tune it up)

but right now im out of a job due to surgery and slow housing market.. and im having to spend my saved money just to live (damn bills)

so needless to say, im pissed... but what should i do?

- just keep saving for the 302?
- or should i just mod up my 4.6l?
- how big can i bore a 4.6 (289cu-in as you know) to?
- should i just spend what money i got on small stuff (hoods, spoilers, CAI, exhaust etc.)?

im retarded for asking all this but im gettin tired of having what everyone else has lol

i just need something to do to it.. id rather have a fast-ass car than a pretty one..
Spending money for hoods, spoilers, CAI and exhaust will not get you a fast-ass car. If your motor is solid, then save your money for a supercharger. Before you buy anything, come up with a plan on which way you want to go. That way, if you do buy something, it will add to the total package and not be something that you have to take off later. For example, CAI and underdrive pulleys will have to be taken off if you put a supercharger on.

You will also want to discuss your plan with others. I recently read a thread on another forum about a guy who was very disappointed with the performance of his new motor. Evidently he took a 5.3 motor (which likes low rpms), put high rpm heads and mid-range cams. I have heard of others who have made their 4.6s into 5.1s with a stroker kit and have been disappointed. A tuner I was talking to said it is hard to talk customers out of the stroker kit since its only a couple of hundred dollars more than the regular forged crank, rods and pistons.
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s/c the car the 4.6 love the r's and you will see the diffence, then just doing simple mods
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Old October 28th, 2007, 08:54 PM   #12
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So if i keep my 4.6l, and yes, im going to s/c it (im looking at the kenne bell s/c too.. i know an old guy with one.. nice), should i do the boreing/heads first? Or is it just as easy to change out the heads, bore it, change piston, cam etc. WITH it already supercharged?

Please excuse my ignorance. I know how things work, but this stuff is new to me... and thanks for all the awesome replies

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by the way, my car is automatic because i couldnt find a stick-shift GT where around here that wasnt beat to shit... so should i convert to manual (how much does that run for?) or could i somehow make it shift just as quick as i could manually? the (intentional) slip it does when shifting sucks balls
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Old October 28th, 2007, 09:12 PM   #13
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this is from the kenne belle website FAQ

Will the supercharger hurt my engine? We bought our red 1990 Mustang convertible new. It has 110,000 miles on it and 3620 dyno runs on the 100% original engine. The heads have never been off and it's driven daily. Boost does not overstress the rods, crank, block, bearings etc. like rpm does. Engine inertia loads increase with the square of rpm. A 10% increase adds 40% more inertia loading. A 25% increase = 100%! A Kenne Bell supercharger doesn't require higher than stock engine rpm to make more HP and torque. We do it with boost. Remember, a Twin Screw doesn't have to depend on engine rpm to generate boost. The most common engine problems emanate from 1. over revving, 2. detonation (inadequate fuel octane, excessive ignition timing, lack of fuel etc.), 3. running more boost than the kit was designed for and 4. "other" engine changes and modifications such as heads and pistons (too high a compression ratio), injectors (wrong size), mass air meter (wrong calibration), headers (leaks), ignitions (non-compatible), regulators and pumps (excess or insufficient fuel pressure), underhood filters that suck in hot air etc. We could go on and on. We've seen it all.
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well if you run to much power it will break the stock rods or braek a piston. if you keep it within reason and a good tune, you should have no probelm. menaing keep it aorund 400 hp. i say skip on the kb though. centris make for faster cars, or go with a turbo. im just not a fan of the kb
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Old October 28th, 2007, 09:43 PM   #15
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^ ill check them out.. but i like s/c better because they sounds awesome
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you can get a trans for around 1200 a tr3650 and a clutch for around 300 a king cobra and change the driveshaft
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Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't it be a good idea to upgrade the transmission to a 6 speed if he is going to be throwing on a s/c too?
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Originally Posted by Mach Boy
Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't it be a good idea to upgrade the transmission to a 6 speed if he is going to be throwing on a s/c too?
It's not necessary, there's 5 speeds that are capable of big power, but I'd rather have a 6 speed...
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Originally Posted by Mach Boy
Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't it be a good idea to upgrade the transmission to a 6 speed if he is going to be throwing on a s/c too?
i was thinking the same thing... just spend a lil more and get the t-56 i think it can handle more power and get better gas milage..( i know i know mustangs are not made for gas milage but it can help)
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Old October 28th, 2007, 11:30 PM   #20
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aight cool deal.. ill definetly do that. 6 speed baby.

but i have a question from above:
should i do the boreing/heads first? Or is it just as easy to change out the heads, bore it, change piston, cam etc. WITH the s/c already bolted on?

i want to try and do things in an organized manner
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