want 400 horse?

October 31st, 2007, 11:01 PM	#1
outlawedstang Regular 02 mustang gt Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: dixie Posts: 72	want 400 horse? aight i just picked up a 02 gt, its already got a full exaust with h-pipe, k&n cold air intake and some sort of chip, i wanna get 400 hp and i only got about 2300 bucks to spend, i am really wanting a super charger but dont know about them, wat kind should i get and wat supercharger can i get for about 2000? also wat would a good tranny be to get that would hold up to that kind of power? and also is there any other parts i can get for it to get that kind of power without going into the motor?

October 31st, 2007, 11:08 PM	#2
AndrewA. Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT 8.9@78 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 1,258	Nos...might not hit 400hp but you can get a real nice setup for way way less..and your stock tranny will hold up fine.

October 31st, 2007, 11:09 PM	#3
Eagle2000GT Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Shelbyville, Indiana Posts: 674	Patience is a virtue. Bolt ons will not get you 400 rwhp. It won't even get you 400 net hp (flywheel). Unless you are a mechanic and you can pick up a supercharger at discount prices, you are not going to get there. Your objective is where I was last year. Save your money for a supercharger. Resist the temptation to do small mods. They will not get you there. __________________ latest tune: 370 rwhp/377 rwtq Garage: http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-member-11329/ Previously Owned: 1966 Coronet 500, 426 ci est. 290-300 rwhp 1969 Camaro RS/SS, 350 ci est. 210-220 rwhp Today is the real muscle car era.

October 31st, 2007, 11:15 PM	#4
droppedbass87 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: diberville,mississippi Posts: 1,893	only real mod i would ever spend money on is gears..thats it..save money get a supercharger..then after that get ur motor forged and port and polish those heads and get some custom boost cams..i prefer boomer on this site for anything you want done.. __________________ fraziers transmission service..

October 31st, 2007, 11:19 PM	#5
outlawedstang Regular 02 mustang gt Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: dixie Posts: 72	i dont think i wanna get nos just yet cause reliabilty, but wat supercharger could i get that is between 2000-4000 that is pretty decent. and i need a tranny no matter what cause now it grinds second when shifting from 1st about 3500 or more rpm's and pops out of 4th __________________

October 31st, 2007, 11:21 PM	#6
outlawedstang Regular 02 mustang gt Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: dixie Posts: 72	hey dropped where you at in MS i am in long beach right by gulfport, do you know any good performance shops round here? __________________

October 31st, 2007, 11:24 PM	#7
AndrewA. Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT 8.9@78 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 1,258	Brand new vortech kits are like 4500...ive seen them used on ebay for less than 3g. If your tranny is messed up than i would fix that now, esp if its a DD, sooner or later your tranny will just give up and they seem to like to do that in the middle of the highway!

October 31st, 2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by outlawedstang

i dont think i wanna get nos just yet cause reliabilty, but wat supercharger could i get that is between 2000-4000 that is pretty decent. and i need a tranny no matter what cause now it grinds second when shifting from 1st about 3500 or more rpm's and pops out of 4th

Keep in mind of what budget you got since you will prob have the s/c installed and it aint cheap.

November 1st, 2007, 12:05 AM	#9
mustangmanic Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.334 @ 106.27 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,742	if you tune your car and throw a 100 wet shot on there, it wont hurt you. Just dont be using it all the freakin time coughACMILLERcough lol jk. Cuz when using N2O... that means WOT, and WOT ALL THE TIME isnt good for any car... __________________ Accufab 75mm TB and Pleunm, JLT cai, Steeda Caster Chamber Plates, Eibach Sportline Springs, Tokico Shocks/Struts, Steeda Tri-Ax, FRPP Aluminum Driveshaft, FRPP 3.73's, Hooker LT's, Hooker O/R X, Pypes Violator Catback, SCT Xcal 2. 280rwhp 302.1rwtq

November 1st, 2007, 12:07 AM	#10
mustangmanic Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.334 @ 106.27 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,742	also keep in mind that a 100 shot doesnt always necessarily mean 100 hp... in most cases, 100 wet shots will give you upwards of 115+hp and over 90lbtq __________________ Accufab 75mm TB and Pleunm, JLT cai, Steeda Caster Chamber Plates, Eibach Sportline Springs, Tokico Shocks/Struts, Steeda Tri-Ax, FRPP Aluminum Driveshaft, FRPP 3.73's, Hooker LT's, Hooker O/R X, Pypes Violator Catback, SCT Xcal 2. 280rwhp 302.1rwtq

November 1st, 2007, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Eagle2000GT

Patience is a virtue. Bolt ons will not get you 400 rwhp. It won't even get you 400 net hp (flywheel). Unless you are a mechanic and you can pick up a supercharger at discount prices, you are not going to get there.

Your objective is where I was last year. Save your money for a supercharger. Resist the temptation to do small mods. They will not get you there.

why not?

if you include heads and cams bolt ons you can make well over 400 on motor

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November 1st, 2007, 02:25 AM	#12
B0B Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang GT the speed of smell Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milton, WA Posts: 1,362	400 at the wheels? i've never heard of a na 2v making 400 rwhp __________________ '01 GT P-1SC 383rwhp, 380rwtq 2003 Rubicon (DD) 05 Suzuki SV650S 55mpg moddedmustang's drunk story teller www.myspace.com/jeepwheelerbob

November 1st, 2007, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob17830

400 at the wheels? i've never heard of a na 2v making 400 rwhp

+1
Even 350 RWHP with just bolt ons is a stretch, but do-able.

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November 1st, 2007, 10:38 AM

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the most i have ever seen is around 320 on a stock bottom end.

Originally Posted by outlawedstang

i dont think i wanna get nos just yet cause reliabilty, but wat supercharger could i get that is between 2000-4000 that is pretty decent. and i need a tranny no matter what cause now it grinds second when shifting from 1st about 3500 or more rpm's and pops out of 4th

what reliability issue? the "reliability" is the same on n2o as it is on boost. it is all in tuning. the trans issue sounds like shift fork and i would concentrate on that instead of power. if you wanted a s/c a used kit ro a tuner kit will be in that price range.

Originally Posted by mustangmanic

if you tune your car and throw a 100 wet shot on there, it wont hurt you. Just dont be using it all the freakin time *coughACMILLERcough* lol jk.

Cuz when using N2O... that means WOT, and WOT ALL THE TIME isnt good for any car...

Originally Posted by mustangmanic

also keep in mind that a 100 shot doesnt always necessarily mean 100 hp... in most cases, 100 wet shots will give you upwards of 115+hp and over 90lbtq

there was other stuff that caused ac's car to break besides the juice. when the n2o is set up and tuned properly there is no issue. you can hammer on it all you want with out issues. i have ran countless numbers of bottles through mine at 125 and so has 04gtampa. a 100 horse shot is a 100 horse shot, with tuning you can get more. zex labels their shot as flywheel ratings but can get that rating at the wheel with tuning. the 4.6 always gets big numbers on the torque with the bottle.

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Originally Posted by Bob17830

400 at the wheels? i've never heard of a na 2v making 400 rwhp

+1
Even 350 RWHP with just bolt ons is a stretch, but do-able.

+1 the most i have ever seen on a 4.6 n/a is around 320. if you plan on boost soon the i suggest header back, t/b, plenum (ir you go with a centri), and invest into suspension and drivetrain. if you are on the fence and it will be a while, i suggest on getting the rest of the bolt ons till you make a descision.

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November 1st, 2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob17830

400 at the wheels? i've never heard of a na 2v making 400 rwhp

The class I race in, the 2V mustangs are making from 400-440 rwhp.

They are going 11.30's ON MOTOR

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November 1st, 2007, 03:05 PM	#16
jivepepper Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 1,732	Ken b made 380 na and went 10's __________________ Spending money I don't have, on parts I don't need. to impress people I don't know.... 2k MUSTANG GT 598/531 RWHP/RWTQ Just a little S-trim....

November 1st, 2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyZ

Originally Posted by Bob17830

400 at the wheels? i've never heard of a na 2v making 400 rwhp

The class I race in, the 2V mustangs are making from 400-440 rwhp.

They are going 11.30's ON MOTOR

I'm not saying you're being dishonest here, but KB was running those numbers with under 400 HP if I'm not mistaken. For the record, you are not going to make 400+ on the stock bottom end- I have been chasing that number with the 2V for a while. However, I believe it is about to happen. Boomer and I have come to an agreement that may finally see the legendary 400+ in a N/A 2V street car.

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November 1st, 2007, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mustangmanic

if you tune your car and throw a 100 wet shot on there, it wont hurt you. Just dont be using it all the freakin time *coughACMILLERcough* lol jk.

Cuz when using N2O... that means WOT, and WOT ALL THE TIME isnt good for any car...

Let me clarify- I was running a 150 HP dry shot on a 100 HP tune (by mistake). I got some jets mixxed up. My motor had been thousands of miles on the bottle before that mistake.

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November 1st, 2007, 03:21 PM	#19
SWEET2KSTANG MM Fanatic 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 4,870	i was meaning on a stock bottom end. __________________ stock long block, bolt ons, slicks, and a little squeeze N/A-12.81@103.7 N2O-11.79@115.8 Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you: 1. Jesus Christ 2. The American G. I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

November 1st, 2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by acmillr

Originally Posted by mustangmanic

if you tune your car and throw a 100 wet shot on there, it wont hurt you. Just dont be using it all the freakin time *coughACMILLERcough* lol jk.

Cuz when using N2O... that means WOT, and WOT ALL THE TIME isnt good for any car...

Let me clarify- I was running a 150 HP dry shot on a 100 HP tune (by mistake). I got some jets mixxed up. My motor had been thousands of miles on the bottle before that mistake.

i know, i know... i was just messing.

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