Shifter Problem

Mach Boy · November 1st, 2007, 05:10 PM

This only applies to driving hard. When I drive easy (99%) of my driving I have no problems. But when I decide to get on it I'm having a problem. I recently installed a new shifter so I'm thinking it is that, but here's the problem. I go through first, shift to second, get to 5500-6200 rpms, and here's the tricky part. Usually that's around 60mph roughly. Ok by this time if I usually have to start worrying about slowing down, but even if I get to third, third isn't my problem. It's fourth. When I go to throw the car into fourth the shifter pops it back to neutral. I'll have to make sure, but I think the clutch is still in when this happens. If not it is right after I let off. So my car goes right back to neutral and I rev hard when I get back on the gas if I don't watch it. But when I let the car coast for a second or two it lets me shift into fourth no problems.

Opinions?

TheBusher · November 1st, 2007, 05:15 PM

I had a similar problem with my shifter when I first put it in, but mine would always grind into second. Resolution... Got myself a new clutch and gave the shifter about a month of break in time. Now I can powershift every gear like butter.

Mach Boy · November 1st, 2007, 05:20 PM

I'm not powershifting at all. I was thinking I need to make the shift a little longer. Daily driving though the car runs great.

TheBusher · November 1st, 2007, 05:24 PM

Mine did the grinding even when just shifting fairly fast at high rpms. Not speed shifting or powershifting. I was just stating after I replaced my clutch and broke my shifter in the problem was solved, thus resulting in perfect powershifts.

Mach Boy · November 1st, 2007, 05:28 PM

Gotcha. It's not grinding when I try to put it in gear though. I get it to the stop point and I take my hand off/release clutch. Only problem is when I take my hand off it goes back to neutral. Like you said it probably just needs time to sink in.

KhaosGT · November 1st, 2007, 06:00 PM

fourth gear synchros?

my cousins mach did that only it did it in third

2kGT · November 1st, 2007, 06:04 PM

check the stop bolts. - and shifters dont "break in"

TheBusher · November 1st, 2007, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by 2kGT

check the stop bolts. - and shifters dont "break in"

Mine did

Also, if the stop bolts weren't adjusted right would he be having problems with 2nd also??? If your stop bolts do happen to be the problem... remove them. The 3650 has stops built into the tranny.

2kGT · November 1st, 2007, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by TheBusher

Originally Posted by 2kGT

check the stop bolts. - and shifters dont "break in"

Mine did

Also, if the stop bolts weren't adjusted right would he be having problems with 2nd also??? If your stop bolts do happen to be the problem... remove them. The 3650 has stops built into the tranny.

all in your head, you just got used to it

TheBusher · November 1st, 2007, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by 2kGT

Originally Posted by TheBusher

Originally Posted by 2kGT

check the stop bolts. - and shifters dont "break in"

Mine did

Also, if the stop bolts weren't adjusted right would he be having problems with 2nd also??? If your stop bolts do happen to be the problem... remove them. The 3650 has stops built into the tranny.

all in your head, you just got used to it

Well if it's all in my head, and I think it broke in... did it?

Onemanzu · November 1st, 2007, 06:32 PM

I might be mistaken but i don't think i am

the T-3650 has a built in stop already so you should be good to remove the stop screw... i might be confussing the 3650 and 56 but i don't think i am

HMUSN · November 1st, 2007, 06:33 PM

^your right

the t-3650 has internal shift stops.

you should take the stops out of the shifter completely.

Onemanzu · November 1st, 2007, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

^your right

the t-3650 has internal shift stops.

you should take the stops out of the shifter completely.

okay cool i couldn't remember you told me once ... but not having much relevance to me i couldn't remember

TheBusher · November 1st, 2007, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by TheBusher

Originally Posted by 2kGT

check the stop bolts. - and shifters dont "break in"

Mine did

Also, if the stop bolts weren't adjusted right would he be having problems with 2nd also??? If your stop bolts do happen to be the problem... remove them. The 3650 has stops built into the tranny.

^Eh-hem

Originally Posted by Onemanzu

I might be mistaken but i don't think i am

the T-3650 has a built in stop already so you should be good to remove the stop screw... i might be confussing the 3650 and 56 but i don't think i am

Mach Boy · November 2nd, 2007, 12:24 AM

Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but one of three things happened tonight when I took out the stops.

1. Shifts got really friggin sloppy.

2. Touched the screwdriver to the wire for the power jack right infront of the shifter and blew a fuse.

3. Fourth is still getting thrown out.

To top the night off I got beat by a guy running some hellacious turbo or he sprayed when I got into fourth.

November 1st, 2007, 05:10 PM	#1
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	Shifter Problem This only applies to driving hard. When I drive easy (99%) of my driving I have no problems. But when I decide to get on it I'm having a problem. I recently installed a new shifter so I'm thinking it is that, but here's the problem. I go through first, shift to second, get to 5500-6200 rpms, and here's the tricky part. Usually that's around 60mph roughly. Ok by this time if I usually have to start worrying about slowing down, but even if I get to third, third isn't my problem. It's fourth. When I go to throw the car into fourth the shifter pops it back to neutral. I'll have to make sure, but I think the clutch is still in when this happens. If not it is right after I let off. So my car goes right back to neutral and I rev hard when I get back on the gas if I don't watch it. But when I let the car coast for a second or two it lets me shift into fourth no problems. Opinions? __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

November 1st, 2007, 05:20 PM	#3
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	I'm not powershifting at all. I was thinking I need to make the shift a little longer. Daily driving though the car runs great. __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

November 1st, 2007, 05:28 PM	#5
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	Gotcha. It's not grinding when I try to put it in gear though. I get it to the stop point and I take my hand off/release clutch. Only problem is when I take my hand off it goes back to neutral. Like you said it probably just needs time to sink in. __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

November 1st, 2007, 06:00 PM	#6
KhaosGT Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 970 iTrader: 0 reviews	fourth gear synchros? my cousins mach did that only it did it in third __________________ 2004 Black Mustang Gt When I see a 5.0...I respect my elders.

November 1st, 2007, 06:04 PM	#7
2kGT Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 922 iTrader: 0 reviews	check the stop bolts. - and shifters dont "break in" __________________ Accufab 75mm tb & plenum MRT h-pipe Flowmaster catback FRPP king cobra clutch FRPP aluminum driveshaft FRPP 4.10 gear TA Perfromance girdle Steeda tri-ax shifter Moser 31 spline axles FRPP C Springs

November 1st, 2007, 05:15 PM	#2
TheBusher Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Chevrolet Impala ??? Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 2,241 iTrader: 0 reviews	I had a similar problem with my shifter when I first put it in, but mine would always grind into second. Resolution... Got myself a new clutch and gave the shifter about a month of break in time. Now I can powershift every gear like butter.

November 1st, 2007, 05:24 PM	#4
TheBusher Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Chevrolet Impala ??? Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 2,241 iTrader: 0 reviews	Mine did the grinding even when just shifting fairly fast at high rpms. Not speed shifting or powershifting. I was just stating after I replaced my clutch and broke my shifter in the problem was solved, thus resulting in perfect powershifts.

November 1st, 2007, 06:32 PM	#11
Onemanzu ¡ʇsnq ɹo uʍop ǝpısdn Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Looking for free hand jobs in poland springs nebraska... silly gooses Posts: 12,550 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	I might be mistaken but i don't think i am the T-3650 has a built in stop already so you should be good to remove the stop screw... i might be confussing the 3650 and 56 but i don't think i am __________________ My Foz

November 1st, 2007, 06:33 PM	#12
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	^your right the t-3650 has internal shift stops. you should take the stops out of the shifter completely. __________________

November 2nd, 2007, 12:24 AM	#15
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but one of three things happened tonight when I took out the stops. 1. Shifts got really friggin sloppy. 2. Touched the screwdriver to the wire for the power jack right infront of the shifter and blew a fuse. 3. Fourth is still getting thrown out. To top the night off I got beat by a guy running some hellacious turbo or he sprayed when I got into fourth. __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

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