SVT vs MACH engines

TheBusher · November 6th, 2007, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by WilltheThrill

Originally Posted by TheBusher

Originally Posted by Eagle2000GT

According to Mustangs and Fast Fords (August 2007), the Mach 1 has the same motor as a Mercury Maurader. In comparing the Mach 1 to the '99/'01 Cobra they said that its compression is 10.0:1 compared to the Cobra's 9.86:1. It has the same high flow heads as the '03/'04 Cobra but different cams. The Mach 1's cams are basically the same as the ones in the 5.4L Navigator. It came with a solid axle 3.55:1 rear-end while the Cobra's had an independent suspension 3.27:1 rear-end.

I believe the only 4.6 that came from the factory with forged internals was the '03/04 Cobra. It came from the factory supercharged. The Mach 1 didn't. While it may be true, the forged crank in the Mach 1 defies logic. The cast crank is good up to 650 rwhp, the cast rods/pistons 420-450. Why would Ford change and put a 1000 hp crank in the motor with 420 hp pistons? Maybe it had something to do with the Maurader? It doesn't matter. Without changing the rods/pistons the Mach 1 motor has the same maximum horsepower limitation as all other 4.6s (except the terminator) and that's 420-450 rwhp.

I thought the Termi had 3.55's also???

youre right

as always

j/k

WilltheThrill · November 6th, 2007, 03:20 PM

lol

nikbait · November 6th, 2007, 06:50 PM

So, if one just puts in basic mods like exhaust, tune, RAI, intake spacer and a throttle body would that put the mach over 300 HP?

nikbait · November 6th, 2007, 06:50 PM

Oh I also forgot gears..

chris1 · November 6th, 2007, 06:52 PM

i started a topic similar to the question u asked..no answers yet...sigh... :sleep

nikbait · November 6th, 2007, 06:56 PM

Oh yeah? I know sometimes Im frustrated by not knowing the best things to do to cars...and trying to get others opinions...well..

Eagle2000GT · November 6th, 2007, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by TheBusher

Originally Posted by WilltheThrill

Originally Posted by TheBusher

Originally Posted by Eagle2000GT

According to Mustangs and Fast Fords (August 2007), the Mach 1 has the same motor as a Mercury Maurader. In comparing the Mach 1 to the '99/'01 Cobra they said that its compression is 10.0:1 compared to the Cobra's 9.86:1. It has the same high flow heads as the '03/'04 Cobra but different cams. The Mach 1's cams are basically the same as the ones in the 5.4L Navigator. It came with a solid axle 3.55:1 rear-end while the Cobra's had an independent suspension 3.27:1 rear-end.

I believe the only 4.6 that came from the factory with forged internals was the '03/04 Cobra. It came from the factory supercharged. The Mach 1 didn't. While it may be true, the forged crank in the Mach 1 defies logic. The cast crank is good up to 650 rwhp, the cast rods/pistons 420-450. Why would Ford change and put a 1000 hp crank in the motor with 420 hp pistons? Maybe it had something to do with the Maurader? It doesn't matter. Without changing the rods/pistons the Mach 1 motor has the same maximum horsepower limitation as all other 4.6s (except the terminator) and that's 420-450 rwhp.

I thought the Termi had 3.55's also???

youre right

as always j/k

Yes, but the article was comparing the Mach 1 to the 99/01 Cobra.

TheBusher · November 6th, 2007, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Eagle2000GT

Originally Posted by TheBusher

Originally Posted by WilltheThrill

Originally Posted by TheBusher

Originally Posted by Eagle2000GT

According to Mustangs and Fast Fords (August 2007), the Mach 1 has the same motor as a Mercury Maurader. In comparing the Mach 1 to the '99/'01 Cobra they said that its compression is 10.0:1 compared to the Cobra's 9.86:1. It has the same high flow heads as the '03/'04 Cobra but different cams. The Mach 1's cams are basically the same as the ones in the 5.4L Navigator. It came with a solid axle 3.55:1 rear-end while the Cobra's had an independent suspension 3.27:1 rear-end.

I believe the only 4.6 that came from the factory with forged internals was the '03/04 Cobra. It came from the factory supercharged. The Mach 1 didn't. While it may be true, the forged crank in the Mach 1 defies logic. The cast crank is good up to 650 rwhp, the cast rods/pistons 420-450. Why would Ford change and put a 1000 hp crank in the motor with 420 hp pistons? Maybe it had something to do with the Maurader? It doesn't matter. Without changing the rods/pistons the Mach 1 motor has the same maximum horsepower limitation as all other 4.6s (except the terminator) and that's 420-450 rwhp.

I thought the Termi had 3.55's also???

youre right

as always j/k

Yes, but the article was comparing the Mach 1 to the 99/01 Cobra.

I C... my bad... there was so much talk abou the Termi's earlier that I assumed that's what was being discussed.

nikbait · November 6th, 2007, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by nikbait

So, if one just puts in basic mods like exhaust, tune, RAI, intake spacer and a throttle body would that put the mach over 300 HP?

N Y one?

TheBusher · November 6th, 2007, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by nikbait

Originally Posted by nikbait

So, if one just puts in basic mods like exhaust, tune, RAI, intake spacer and a throttle body would that put the mach over 300 HP?

N Y one?

http://mach1registry.org/forums/showthread.php?t=38134

That should give you a good idea of how a Mach will respond to bolt-ons.

nikbait · November 6th, 2007, 09:12 PM

Ah thanks man!

03 R Code · November 7th, 2007, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by nikbait

Originally Posted by nikbait

So, if one just puts in basic mods like exhaust, tune, RAI, intake spacer and a throttle body would that put the mach over 300 HP?

N Y one?

It did for me. O/R x pipe, K&N intake tube, weld in flows with stock tail pipes, and a great tune from VMP put me at 308rwhp and 331rwtq.

I never saw that question before now... sorry mang.

WilltheThrill · November 7th, 2007, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by 03 R Code

sorry mang.

"mang"

03 R Code · November 7th, 2007, 05:26 PM

It's spanglish... My Messycan brother's out there are picking up on what I'm puttng down...

WilltheThrill · November 7th, 2007, 05:35 PM

oh i see, lol

November 6th, 2007, 06:50 PM	#23
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November 6th, 2007, 06:50 PM	#24
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November 6th, 2007, 06:52 PM	#25
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November 6th, 2007, 06:56 PM	#26
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November 6th, 2007, 09:12 PM	#31
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November 7th, 2007, 05:26 PM	#34
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,104 iTrader: 0 reviews	It's spanglish... My Messycan brother's out there are picking up on what I'm puttng down... __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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