Mach 1 Instead Of Cobra

B0B · November 8th, 2007, 01:45 AM

i've been doing a little thinking. i was really set on trading in my gt for a termie in the next year or so. but i think i'm gonna get a mach 1 instead.

heres why:

1. modding the gt would be the cheapest, but mach 1's are rare and they hold their value a lot better, plus i want a 4V

2. mach 1 had solid rear axle, and is much lighter..

3. the eaton blower would get swapped out anyways so i might as well not pay the extra money for it. i want to go twin turbo.

so other than having a weak bottom end what are some of the cons of the mach 1.

the cobra has forged internals and a t-56, but the mach 1 has an aluminum block and a solid rear axle, plus its lighter and costs less.

what do you guys think? i am definately going twin turbos though, i already have savings going into it.

Drick · November 8th, 2007, 02:17 AM

The Mach is a good starter platform like you have already decided. Soild rear axle is also much better for straight line racing. You could throw some TT's on there easyer. But your gonna have to put different internals in it depending on how much boost your planing on running. And plus the Machs are bad ass cars with them shakers.

Benifits of the Cobra though would be its already super charged so you would have more power until you could afford TT's or you could just swap out the Eaton for a KB and be running alot more around that with TT's. They have 6 speed trans. Downsides the only one I can think of is IRS.

B0B · November 8th, 2007, 02:25 AM

well the turbos would be coming right as i got the car, but i would definately have to forge the mach because i want to run more than 450 hp. plus the 4V's respond much better to bolt ons as well. i wish the machs came with the t56

cobraetti · November 10th, 2007, 01:02 PM

just get an 2001 cobra and join the few and the proud

Garhfer · November 10th, 2007, 05:20 PM

The Mach 1's have aluminum blocks instead of iron like the Cobras and GT's so the block is only limited to about 700 rwhp, the internals aren't forged, they're higher compression and the lower the compression the more boost ya can run, sure they have a solid axle but it still has to be beefed up to hold a lot of power, I'd just go termi they're a way better platform to begin with because they're already forged, they already have an iron block, and personally I'd rather have a termi than a mach 1...

bossman2kgt · November 10th, 2007, 05:34 PM

If it were me I would go with the termi. Upgrade to a kenne bell and get a smaller pulley and your done. Besides less headache in the long run.

BlckBullitt01 · November 10th, 2007, 06:09 PM

Plus the fact that termies with X amount of horsepower never run as fast as they should with X amount of horsepower.

HessiaN257 · November 10th, 2007, 06:15 PM

I would just get a cobra. It would be cheaper and easier to swap out a solid rear axle over new internals, and possibly block.

Regency 2007 · November 10th, 2007, 06:21 PM

I use to own a mach1, those things are stupid fast for how much horsepower they have.

I know guys that havn't even touched the motor or done any bolt ons that are running in the 11's with gear swap, slicks, and rear suspension work.

If you want to do twin turbos, I would STRONGLY suggest the cobra. They have kits that areready to bolt up to the cobra compared to having to fab up stuff for the mach1 and you gotta forge the motor. even after you forge it, it is still and aluminum block so you are limited.

My point here. If you want big power, get the cobra. If you want a rare car that is a fast quartermile car, get the mach1.

HessiaN257 · November 10th, 2007, 07:18 PM

Oh and if you do get the Cobra, look what you can do now

You can utilize both the roots/twin screw blower and TTs

Can you imagine a KB with TTs

99SVT · November 15th, 2007, 03:51 PM

Cobra Hands Down!

RC02GT · November 15th, 2007, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by HessiaN257

Oh and if you do get the Cobra, look what you can do now
You can utilize both the roots/twin screw blower and TTs
Can you imagine a KB with TTs

Holy Sh*t

TheBusher · November 15th, 2007, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by RC02GT

Holy Sh*t

Mach Boy · November 15th, 2007, 04:53 PM

I've always wondered why the hell you couldn't throw Turbos and Superchargers on at the same time.

Avaric3 · November 15th, 2007, 04:58 PM

holy shit, i want that!!!! i want a mach 1 with that!!

i could see it at a red light:

car comes up to you and revs like they have something special

you throw a rev back and they hear a supercharger whine AND a BoV

other guy than proceeds to shit himself

Avaric3 · November 15th, 2007, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by BlckBullitt01

Plus the fact that termies with X amount of horsepower never run as fast as they should with X amount of horsepower.

solid axle+weight reduction=one quick cobra, even in otherwise stock form

Mach Boy · November 15th, 2007, 05:10 PM

There's no way you'd see that on the street. Did you read that picture, 1600HP. I'd like to have the block that could handle that too, along with the tranny and suspension.

Steve O · November 15th, 2007, 05:35 PM

damn! thats some wicked shit lol twins and a supercharger that is crazy im speachless

WilltheThrill · November 15th, 2007, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by HessiaN257

Oh and if you do get the Cobra, look what you can do now
You can utilize both the roots/twin screw blower and TTs
Can you imagine a KB with TTs

lol, where have u been? under a rock? i bought one of those kits two weeks ago for my cobra. im just saving up to get it installed now

TheBusher · November 15th, 2007, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by WilltheThrill

lol, where have u been? under a rock? i bought one of those kits two weeks ago for my cobra. im just saving up to get it installed now

Well... when and if you get that bad boy installed... You're drivin' to Denver to give me a ride. Oh yeah, and let me drive. And no, you don't have a say in the matter

November 8th, 2007, 01:45 AM	#1
B0B Boost gets you laid 2001 Mustang GT 12.93@113.7 (on the 18's) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milton, WA Posts: 2,609 iTrader: 2 reviews	Mach 1 Instead Of Cobra i've been doing a little thinking. i was really set on trading in my gt for a termie in the next year or so. but i think i'm gonna get a mach 1 instead. heres why: 1. modding the gt would be the cheapest, but mach 1's are rare and they hold their value a lot better, plus i want a 4V 2. mach 1 had solid rear axle, and is much lighter.. 3. the eaton blower would get swapped out anyways so i might as well not pay the extra money for it. i want to go twin turbo. so other than having a weak bottom end what are some of the cons of the mach 1. the cobra has forged internals and a t-56, but the mach 1 has an aluminum block and a solid rear axle, plus its lighter and costs less. what do you guys think? i am definately going twin turbos though, i already have savings going into it. __________________ '01 GT. Just a couple Bolt-ons. 0rwhp 0rwtq. Epic Turbo build in progress 2003 Rubicon (wheelin rig) 2008 Silverado 4x4 (towin rig/road queen) 2009 KTM 450 XC-W (Brap Brap!)

November 8th, 2007, 02:17 AM	#2
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,336 iTrader: 1 reviews	The Mach is a good starter platform like you have already decided. Soild rear axle is also much better for straight line racing. You could throw some TT's on there easyer. But your gonna have to put different internals in it depending on how much boost your planing on running. And plus the Machs are bad ass cars with them shakers. Benifits of the Cobra though would be its already super charged so you would have more power until you could afford TT's or you could just swap out the Eaton for a KB and be running alot more around that with TT's. They have 6 speed trans. Downsides the only one I can think of is IRS. __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

November 8th, 2007, 02:25 AM	#3
B0B Boost gets you laid 2001 Mustang GT 12.93@113.7 (on the 18's) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Milton, WA Posts: 2,609 iTrader: 2 reviews	well the turbos would be coming right as i got the car, but i would definately have to forge the mach because i want to run more than 450 hp. plus the 4V's respond much better to bolt ons as well. i wish the machs came with the t56 __________________ '01 GT. Just a couple Bolt-ons. 0rwhp 0rwtq. Epic Turbo build in progress 2003 Rubicon (wheelin rig) 2008 Silverado 4x4 (towin rig/road queen) 2009 KTM 450 XC-W (Brap Brap!)

November 10th, 2007, 01:02 PM	#4
cobraetti Regular 2001 svt cobra no way (IRS) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: goose creek,sc Posts: 304 iTrader: 0 reviews	just get an 2001 cobra and join the few and the proud __________________ Build #1249 MM New Edge Crew Member# 6

November 10th, 2007, 05:20 PM	#5
Garhfer Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Conv. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edgewater, FL Posts: 1,793 iTrader: 0 reviews	The Mach 1's have aluminum blocks instead of iron like the Cobras and GT's so the block is only limited to about 700 rwhp, the internals aren't forged, they're higher compression and the lower the compression the more boost ya can run, sure they have a solid axle but it still has to be beefed up to hold a lot of power, I'd just go termi they're a way better platform to begin with because they're already forged, they already have an iron block, and personally I'd rather have a termi than a mach 1... __________________ 2004 GT Boosted by Vortech

November 10th, 2007, 05:34 PM	#6
bossman2kgt Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wichita, Ks Posts: 1,287 iTrader: 0 reviews	If it were me I would go with the termi. Upgrade to a kenne bell and get a smaller pulley and your done. Besides less headache in the long run.

November 10th, 2007, 06:09 PM	#7
BlckBullitt01 Regular TT Bullitt Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 263 iTrader: 2 reviews	Plus the fact that termies with X amount of horsepower never run as fast as they should with X amount of horsepower.

November 10th, 2007, 06:15 PM	#8
HessiaN257 Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT 13.9@101 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 805 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would just get a cobra. It would be cheaper and easier to swap out a solid rear axle over new internals, and possibly block. __________________ 13.9@101 before some mods

November 10th, 2007, 06:21 PM	#9
Regency 2007 Hardcore Enthusiast F-150 FX4 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Memphrica Posts: 1,144 iTrader: 0 reviews	I use to own a mach1, those things are stupid fast for how much horsepower they have. I know guys that havn't even touched the motor or done any bolt ons that are running in the 11's with gear swap, slicks, and rear suspension work. If you want to do twin turbos, I would STRONGLY suggest the cobra. They have kits that areready to bolt up to the cobra compared to having to fab up stuff for the mach1 and you gotta forge the motor. even after you forge it, it is still and aluminum block so you are limited. My point here. If you want big power, get the cobra. If you want a rare car that is a fast quartermile car, get the mach1.

November 10th, 2007, 07:18 PM	#10
HessiaN257 Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT 13.9@101 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 805 iTrader: 0 reviews	Oh and if you do get the Cobra, look what you can do now You can utilize both the roots/twin screw blower and TTs Can you imagine a KB with TTs __________________ 13.9@101 before some mods

November 15th, 2007, 03:51 PM	#11
99SVT Regular 1999 Mustang Cobra 21.1 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: GA Posts: 198 iTrader: 0 reviews	Cobra Hands Down! __________________

November 15th, 2007, 04:53 PM	#14
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	I've always wondered why the hell you couldn't throw Turbos and Superchargers on at the same time. __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

November 15th, 2007, 04:58 PM	#15
Avaric3 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Ford Focus slow as fuck Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: M-Pan, NJ Posts: 2,556 iTrader: 4 reviews	holy shit, i want that!!!! i want a mach 1 with that!! i could see it at a red light: car comes up to you and revs like they have something special you throw a rev back and they hear a supercharger whine AND a BoV other guy than proceeds to shit himself __________________ 99 V6 Mustang-sold 02 Ford Focus-sold 98 Camaro Z/28-lid, catback

November 15th, 2007, 05:10 PM	#17
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,846 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	There's no way you'd see that on the street. Did you read that picture, 1600HP. I'd like to have the block that could handle that too, along with the tranny and suspension. __________________ Looking for 03/04 4V ABS Wiring Harness Connector/Incomplete Wiring Harness (with ABS connector)

November 15th, 2007, 05:35 PM	#18
Steve O Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl Posts: 661 iTrader: 0 reviews	damn! thats some wicked shit lol twins and a supercharger that is crazy im speachless

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