long tube headers vs shortys

brianm · November 11th, 2007, 01:41 AM

i have been looking at headers lately, and i know most people are against shortys. i know long tubes will make more power than shortys, but what about shortys and an off road h pipe? it must be close to the power of L.T.s ? is the power increase comming from the header or losing the cats with a L.t.? any opnions?

OcOnnor220 · November 11th, 2007, 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by brianm

i have been looking at headers lately, and i know most people are against shortys. i know long tubes will make more power than shortys, but what about shortys and an off road h pipe? it must be close to the power of L.T.s ? is the power increase comming from the header or losing the cats with a L.t.? any opnions?

I wouldnt ask those questions here, cause your gonna get a barrage of half-ass answers from people who have very little to NO idea of what they're talking about, and at most you're gonna have a few people looking up numbers that they'll post for you...big deal. LT headers produce a louder, deeper tone out your exhaust but Im not sure about shortys'...I think shortys are actually the same length as your stock headers but go to shopheaders.com and you can find a chart that shows you HP gains for different applications, you can also get those charts on the website of a specific company like JEGS or BBK. The header will produce power, the cats simply make a difference in sound and emissions...you can always hollow them out or remove them though its the same as having none to begin with.

dude496 · November 11th, 2007, 03:20 AM

I honestly don't know if shorties or longtubes are better...though this is beat to death that longtubes are better.

The only thing i will say is no matter which way you go, you will be better off than your stock manifolds.....the stock setup is in no way considered a header, take a look for yourself.

MATT02GT · November 11th, 2007, 03:25 AM

You will see more power from a long tube setup, you can run an off road pipe with that too. You should still see a decent gain with the shorties, thats what I decide to go with after much thought. The long tubes will be a harder intstall and you may have clearance issuse such as speed bumps and stuff. But for max power, Id have to say its the long tubes..

dude496 · November 11th, 2007, 03:29 AM

Oh just thought about it...if ya run longtubes and running an auto, you will have to drop one of the tubes if ya want to get the tranny out

brianm · November 11th, 2007, 03:32 AM

what i was thinking was shortys and gutted out cats. if i am not mistaken don't shortys make more torque?

November 11th, 2007, 01:41 AM	#1
brianm Hardcore Enthusiast 2011 ram 1500 hemi Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: sylvan lake, alberta Posts: 1,333 iTrader: 0 reviews	long tube headers vs shortys i have been looking at headers lately, and i know most people are against shortys. i know long tubes will make more power than shortys, but what about shortys and an off road h pipe? it must be close to the power of L.T.s ? is the power increase comming from the header or losing the cats with a L.t.? any opnions? __________________ vmp500 hp. jba lts. powerhouse d/s Sold

November 11th, 2007, 03:25 AM	#4
MATT02GT MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colo. Springs, CO Posts: 3,694 iTrader: 0 reviews	You will see more power from a long tube setup, you can run an off road pipe with that too. You should still see a decent gain with the shorties, thats what I decide to go with after much thought. The long tubes will be a harder intstall and you may have clearance issuse such as speed bumps and stuff. But for max power, Id have to say its the long tubes.. __________________ Its not how fast you drive, but how you drive fast. 2002 Mustang GT... Just The Usual Bolt-Ons Bolt on list in Garage..

November 11th, 2007, 03:32 AM	#6
brianm Hardcore Enthusiast 2011 ram 1500 hemi Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: sylvan lake, alberta Posts: 1,333 iTrader: 0 reviews	what i was thinking was shortys and gutted out cats. if i am not mistaken don't shortys make more torque? __________________ vmp500 hp. jba lts. powerhouse d/s Sold

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November 11th, 2007, 03:20 AM	#3
dude496 Hardcore Enthusiast 04 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: somewhere Posts: 1,373 iTrader: 2 reviews	I honestly don't know if shorties or longtubes are better...though this is beat to death that longtubes are better. The only thing i will say is no matter which way you go, you will be better off than your stock manifolds.....the stock setup is in no way considered a header, take a look for yourself.

November 11th, 2007, 03:29 AM	#5
dude496 Hardcore Enthusiast 04 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: somewhere Posts: 1,373 iTrader: 2 reviews	Oh just thought about it...if ya run longtubes and running an auto, you will have to drop one of the tubes if ya want to get the tranny out

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