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Old November 16th, 2007, 12:11 PM   #1
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alright so i have FRPP C springs on my 03 mach, im looking for some badass shocks, ride quality isnt important to me as long as i dont hit my head off the roof ever little bump, cant be pure drag suspenion either, as i road race to, i was looking at the edelbrock performer IAS shocks on autopartswarehouse.com anyone tell me if there any good, and is 280 some dollars for one shock? and what other suspension parts should i upgrade to solve all the traction issues, i was thinking upper and lower control arms, and maybe some sway bars, and maybe upgrading the frame ties on it, thanks for all the answers guys you rock
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im prob gonna get some stuff from steeda
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I used bilistein(SP) shocks and Aluminum steeda Upper and Lowers
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Bilstein HD shocks are some of the bost for non adjustable. It is between them and the Koni Yellow. If you want adjustable you need to go with the Tokico D. As for the rest of the stuff. You must have subframe connectors. After that, you can go for sway bars and control arms, chassis stiffening stuff. How far you want to go stems from here. If you want a road car or a drag car you need to choose before you go past the springs shocks and subframe connectors. After that, you start affecting the weight shifting ability and other stuff. Check out Griggs Racing and Maximum motor sports and read some of their linked articles to get down the info you need to figure out what you are going to do.
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Bilstein HD shocks are some of the bost for non adjustable. It is between them and the Koni Yellow. If you want adjustable you need to go with the Tokico D. As for the rest of the stuff. You must have subframe connectors. After that, you can go for sway bars and control arms, chassis stiffening stuff. How far you want to go stems from here. If you want a road car or a drag car you need to choose before you go past the springs shocks and subframe connectors. After that, you start affecting the weight shifting ability and other stuff. Check out Griggs Racing and Maximum motor sports and read some of their linked articles to get down the info you need to figure out what you are going to do.
Machs come with SFCs, though you can always get better ones.
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I don't know about the quality of the ones on the Mach. I would still advise getting the XL Subframes from Maximum Motorsports.
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I don't know about the quality of the ones on the Mach. I would still advise getting the XL Subframes from Maximum Motorsports.
Agreed. That's why I said you can always go better

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Steeda is the way to go for suspension parts. I run the Tokicko Illumina 5way adjustables on my stang, and I have been pretty impressed with them.
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Steeda Subframes are not as good as the XL MM ones. The Normal Length ones are probably a toss up but the Longer ones from MM are about as good as you can get. The griggs one's require cutting up into the floor pan, and from what I have seen on the comparison of the 2 kits, the MM and Griggs are pretty even, Maybe slightly better for the Griggs but The Griggs Coilovers are just better since they are redesigned. MM is easier, cheaper and in many cases better. just my .02
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steeda,i like myself good for the street. and shocks & struts any of the name brands are good for the street
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Steeda is the way to go for suspension parts. I run the Tokicko Illumina 5way adjustables on my stang, and I have been pretty impressed with them.

Awsome, I just bought some of those yesterday, they go on next saturday. Anything you can tell me about them? What differences did you notice from what you had before?
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Awsome, I just bought some of those yesterday, they go on next saturday. Anything you can tell me about them? What differences did you notice from what you had before?
They are badass man, I've yet to scare myself in the curves. As hard as I push the car, she takes it easy. I did upgrade the suspension ass well though, but the car feels like its on rails. 150% better than stock
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I was real happy with the parts I chose, except I cheaped out on the shocks. I should have stepped up, but this package still handles very well. Eibach Sportline Springs, Eibach sway bars, MM Bump steer kit, KYBs, along with the Cobra brake upgrade.
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Originally Posted by gsjohnson View Post
I was real happy with the parts I chose, except I cheaped out on the shocks. I should have stepped up, but this package still handles very well. Eibach Sportline Springs, Eibach sway bars, MM Bump steer kit, KYBs, along with the Cobra brake upgrade.
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Would you say that apart from the spring/shock setup the bumpsteer kit made the most tactile difference in your suspension?

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Some great suggestions on this thread! My .02!

MM XL SFC's
MM Bumpsteer Kit
I would leave the front swaybar alone. I think it is plenty stiff for what you need.
MM Rack relocator kit
MM PHB
MM Road Race Rear LCA's
Tokico D-Specs
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If you want to go full out then you could buy MM's Max Grip Box. I did and I love it!



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The MM bump steer kit really smoothed out the steering wheel kick when hitting dips in the road, especially during hard cornering. I would say a bump steer kit is a must for all Mustangs.
And since I've got your a attention, whose rear control arms are you running?
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Originally Posted by gsjohnson View Post
The MM bump steer kit really smoothed out the steering wheel kick when hitting dips in the road, especially during hard cornering. I would say a bump steer kit is a must for all Mustangs.
And since I've got your a attention, whose rear control arms are you running?
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So you have coil overs on the rear as well? I'm not sure I want to go to that extent. What about the upper control arms?
I experimented a little bit on the dyno, but at $150 an hour I had to keep it under control. I still spent $700 on the dyno as it was. The difference between the 70 mm & 75 mm T/B was almost null (1 to 4 HP depending on the RPM). The stock to the Trick Flow upper plenum was worth 21 HP. I was happy with that gain. All this with a P1SC and a 3 row intercooler. I really didn't have time to do anymore experimenting than that.
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Originally Posted by gsjohnson View Post
So you have coil overs on the rear as well? I'm not sure I want to go to that extent. What about the upper control arms?
I experimented a little bit on the dyno, but at $150 an hour I had to keep it under control. I still spent $700 on the dyno as it was. The difference between the 70 mm & 75 mm T/B was almost null (1 to 4 HP depending on the RPM). The stock to the Trick Flow upper plenum was worth 21 HP. I was happy with that gain. All this with a P1SC and a 3 row intercooler. I really didn't have time to do anymore experimenting than that.
Ouch! That's a lot of dyno time dough! I've been fortunate in that I just ran into some guys that are setting up a dyno and have offered me free time on it so I am DEFINiTELY going to take advantage! So then you were able to quantify a 21 hp gain with JUST the Plenum/TB? That's GREAT! So many people on other sites tell me that a plenum/TB change on its own will only yield around 3 to 4 hp! I'd like to do a CAI/Plenum/TB mod and was wondering what kind of HP gain I could expect. Do you think my results would be comparable to yours?

Yup, coilovers on the rear too! I still need to install the PHB, Rear Sway and the TA so I won't need the uppers anymore! I'm going to be road racing the car so I wanted to make sure the suspension was up to the task! LOL!

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Ouch! That's a lot of dyno time dough! I've been fortunate in that I just ran into some guys that are setting up a dyno and have offered me free time on it so I am DEFINiTELY going to take advantage! So then you were able to quantify a 21 hp gain with JUST the Plenum/TB? That's GREAT! So many people on other sites tell me that a plenum/TB change on its own will only yield around 3 to 4 hp! I'd like to do a CAI/Plenum/TB mod and was wondering what kind of HP gain I could expect. Do you think my results would be comparable to yours?

Yup, coilovers on the rear too! I still need to install the PHB, Rear Sway and the TA so I won't need the uppers anymore! I'm going to be road racing the car so I wanted to make sure the suspension was up to the task! LOL!

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Remember the 21 HP gain was with the Procharger. I'm not sure what the gain would be with a N/A motor. I would guess less. I think the throttle body gains are very minimal and is probably what the other sites are referring to. But I think that there are much bigger gains to be expected when selecting a good quality upper plenum. And my car will see very little, if any track time, so I have been way more conservative than you with my setup. I'm old and I still think of the comforts...lol. I'm trying to finish my vintage racer 67 Coupe for some on track fun. Still, vintage racing is gentlemen racing. If the guy dives underneath me entering a corner, I'm not going to pinch him down. I'll just say, after you & let him go...Remember, I'm old...lol
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