Patriot Heads?

contentsunderpressur · November 24th, 2007, 12:22 AM

My heads have done good so far aside from a plug in the back of one of the heads being loose letting oil get by. I just tightened it up and I've been running a blower and nitrous on it.

Boomer · November 24th, 2007, 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by contentsunderpressur

My heads have done good so far aside from a plug in the back of one of the heads being loose letting oil get by. I just tightened it up and I've been running a blower and nitrous on it.

Stupid is as stupid does, where do you follow ? I tattoed patriot on my nuts, wanna buy some ? Frigg'in idots !!!!! pay for the flow bench I'll show you they suck or I'll buy them from patriot for you...... you get what you pay for!!!!!!!! JUNK =JUNK

04GTAMPA · November 24th, 2007, 03:00 AM

^ that's not how you get customers. You might be right, but calm down.

04GTAMPA · November 24th, 2007, 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by contentsunderpressur

My heads have done good so far aside from a plug in the back of one of the heads being loose letting oil get by. I just tightened it up and I've been running a blower and nitrous on it.

What's your set up (internals) and what model pro-charger @ what boost? and how big of a shot? are those numbers on or off the bottle?

01dutchGT · November 24th, 2007, 03:20 AM

thanks for all the info guy's, I have a few option to go with but diffently not going patriot now. Ive been talking to the guys at MMR, and Foxlake so im ordering everything soon

StangAddiction · November 24th, 2007, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Boomer

Stupid is as stupid does, where do you follow ? I tattoed patriot on my nuts, wanna buy some ? Frigg'in idots !!!!! pay for the flow bench I'll show you they suck or I'll buy them from patriot for you...... you get what you pay for!!!!!!!! JUNK =JUNK

Thats a little uncalled for...watch how you come at people...please...

It's his car...he'll do with it what he wants..

As for Boss330 racing...Papito knows his Stuff.. I havent heard any bad stories from Boss330 or MPH..As for heads, i havent met snyone with MPH heads but i have met a guy with some Fox Lake heads...They're pretty good heads as well from what I've heard. Remember that the valvetrain is a very important part of the car and it's performance..Dont let just anyone lay their fingers on it. Very fragile it is...

contentsunderpressur · November 24th, 2007, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by 04GTAMPA

What's your set up (internals) and what model pro-charger @ what boost? and how big of a shot? are those numbers on or off the bottle?

Manley rods, Diamond pistons, VT cams, P-1 @ 11 lbs and a 75 shot. This is with 9.5 compression. Those numbers are with the 75 shot.

04GTAMPA · November 24th, 2007, 11:12 AM

Ok, that makes me feel much better.

contentsunderpressur · November 24th, 2007, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Boomer

Stupid is as stupid does, where do you follow ? I tattoed patriot on my nuts, wanna buy some ? Frigg'in idots !!!!! pay for the flow bench I'll show you they suck or I'll buy them from patriot for you...... you get what you pay for!!!!!!!! JUNK =JUNK

They were 1000 dollars cheaper than those from modular powerhouse. They are ported with the same cnc machine that the rest use. So, just how could these other heads be so much better? My intake and exhaust ports are ported to match the gaskets. If they were any bigger they would blow the gaskets. The heads I bought from patriot were in great shape whether you want to believe it or not.

contentsunderpressur · November 24th, 2007, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by 04GTAMPA

Ok, that makes me feel much better.

Why?

sonicblue · November 24th, 2007, 11:42 AM

i dont see anything wrong with patriots stuff anymore. i know a good amount of people running them no problems. its true with more money you are going to get a better head, but for the money they are good.

blue03mach1 · November 24th, 2007, 01:13 PM

hey stang addiction i like how you have the meters set up to go to the end and back like an stis do... how do u do that on a stang?

ChrisJ · November 24th, 2007, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by blue03mach1

hey stang addiction i like how you have the meters set up to go to the end and back like an stis do... how do u do that on a stang?

Thats the test...

hold the trip button down while you turn the key to the accessories and continue to hold it and it will do the same...

2001bullitt · November 25th, 2007, 05:50 AM

I have fox lake heads with comp 270 cams and i love the idle and they make great power! heres my bullitt!

Supercharged Bullit Dyno - Video

I purchased them from amp performance they gave me a great deal!

Boomer · November 25th, 2007, 08:40 AM

Regardless of what some believe there is more to head porting than gasket matching. Also the use of a CNC machine is great however you would see a huge difference in the programs used from one porter than the other. Patriot heads also use a lesser quality of parts than modular powerhouse.

I'm sorry if I came off wrong about Patriot. I just don't understand why people would want to risk their engine on a set of junk heads. Just remember they are way cheaper for a reason ask yourself why.

StangAddiction · November 25th, 2007, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisJ

Thats the test...

hold the trip button down while you turn the key to the accessories and continue to hold it and it will do the same...

I dont hold anything down...it does it on its own..

I believe its always done it since i first playyed with the little button n pulled up the different displays about a year ago...ever since it always sweeps when i start the car.

StangAddiction · November 25th, 2007, 12:02 PM

If you notice in the video, the power was completely off and i never touched the button.

9Sec03Cobra · November 25th, 2007, 12:49 PM

I have used Patriot heads in the past on a few customers cars. No problems and great power. I think they are good for the money saved but people always have bad things to say about them. If you look at the # of heads produced and sold, they really arent that bad. They probably sell more sets of heads a year than any other company. I am not knocking the other guys, but im just saying that the patriots are good heads. If the other companys sold as many sets a year as patriot you would probably hear just as many bad things about them. Just my opinion

contentsunderpressur · November 25th, 2007, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Boomer

Stupid is as stupid does, where do you follow ? I tattoed patriot on my nuts, wanna buy some ? Frigg'in idots !!!!! pay for the flow bench I'll show you they suck or I'll buy them from patriot for you...... you get what you pay for!!!!!!!! JUNK =JUNK

You talk about flow numbers on the patriot heads here. I did a little research. Modular powerhouse do use heads from Steen Racing. Check out the numbers.Steen Racing Website and the patriots 4.6/5.4 2V Heads&Valvetrain

Boomer · November 25th, 2007, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by contentsunderpressur

You talk about flow numbers on the patriot heads here. I did a little research. Modular powerhouse do use heads from Steen Racing. Check out the numbers.Steen Racing Website and the patriots 4.6/5.4 2V Heads&Valvetrain

You are spouting off about heads you don't have a clue on. MPH has someone local to them do their heads. I have seen patriot heads on the bench, the numbers are not near what they claim. I spoke to Gunnar from patriot a while back he had no clue anything about the heads (numbers) other than their "max" cfm. I assure you the same motor with the two different heads would show you the difference.

You are going to believe what you read, or what you are led to believe from others. I do this shit daily, I was being nice and trying to save a few people from making mistakes as others have.

All well !!!!

November 24th, 2007, 12:22 AM	#21
contentsunderpressur Newbie 03 mustang GT 7.28 in 1/8th Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bay Minette, AL Posts: 31 iTrader: 0 reviews	My heads have done good so far aside from a plug in the back of one of the heads being loose letting oil get by. I just tightened it up and I've been running a blower and nitrous on it. __________________ 506 rwhp. Procharger, nx nitrous kit, bla bla bla

November 24th, 2007, 03:00 AM	#23
04GTAMPA Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang SVT Cobra Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 2,751 iTrader: 1 reviews	^ that's not how you get customers. You might be right, but calm down. __________________ Slow, really slow Cobra. Wanna see? MM Cobra Club Member #81 "TAMPA BAY AREA CREW"

November 24th, 2007, 03:20 AM	#25
01dutchGT Regular 1965 Ford Mustang Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 481 iTrader: 0 reviews	thanks for all the info guy's, I have a few option to go with but diffently not going patriot now. Ive been talking to the guys at MMR, and Foxlake so im ordering everything soon __________________ 2001 mustang gt 5 speed Full bolt ons with 4.10 gears. 1965 Mustang 302 with 4 Barrel edelbrock 600cfm, T5 transmission, Hurst short throw shifter. In the process of restoring it...

November 24th, 2007, 11:12 AM	#28
04GTAMPA Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang SVT Cobra Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 2,751 iTrader: 1 reviews	Ok, that makes me feel much better. __________________ Slow, really slow Cobra. Wanna see? MM Cobra Club Member #81 "TAMPA BAY AREA CREW"

November 24th, 2007, 11:42 AM	#31
sonicblue Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: dalzell, south carolina Posts: 1,436 iTrader: 0 reviews	i dont see anything wrong with patriots stuff anymore. i know a good amount of people running them no problems. its true with more money you are going to get a better head, but for the money they are good. __________________ 1990 5.0 getting all fixed up for next season 2004 mustang gt 520rwhp, 491 trq sold Last edited by sonicblue; November 24th, 2007 at 11:45 AM.

November 24th, 2007, 01:13 PM	#32
blue03mach1 Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 523 iTrader: 0 reviews	hey stang addiction i like how you have the meters set up to go to the end and back like an stis do... how do u do that on a stang?

November 25th, 2007, 05:50 AM	#34
2001bullitt Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 154 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have fox lake heads with comp 270 cams and i love the idle and they make great power! heres my bullitt! Supercharged Bullit Dyno - Video I purchased them from amp performance they gave me a great deal! __________________ 2001 Bullitt..currently under the knife,Built 4r75w aluminator, Trickflow Cnc'd Heads, Hpperformance twin kit all the bells and whistles=Hulk Smasssh! If your interested in a twin turbo kit let me know! I can help get you a great deal on one! Last edited by 2001bullitt; November 25th, 2007 at 05:52 AM. Reason: forgot a note

November 25th, 2007, 08:40 AM	#35
Boomer Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: warren, Mi Posts: 941 iTrader: 0 reviews	Regardless of what some believe there is more to head porting than gasket matching. Also the use of a CNC machine is great however you would see a huge difference in the programs used from one porter than the other. Patriot heads also use a lesser quality of parts than modular powerhouse. I'm sorry if I came off wrong about Patriot. I just don't understand why people would want to risk their engine on a set of junk heads. Just remember they are way cheaper for a reason ask yourself why. __________________ Just another 10 second Mustang, what did you expect ? http://youtube.com/watch?v=BgykaUrmfvM

November 25th, 2007, 12:02 PM	#37
StangAddiction Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 986 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you notice in the video, the power was completely off and i never touched the button.

November 25th, 2007, 12:49 PM	#38
9Sec03Cobra Regular Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Virginia Beach Va Posts: 185 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have used Patriot heads in the past on a few customers cars. No problems and great power. I think they are good for the money saved but people always have bad things to say about them. If you look at the # of heads produced and sold, they really arent that bad. They probably sell more sets of heads a year than any other company. I am not knocking the other guys, but im just saying that the patriots are good heads. If the other companys sold as many sets a year as patriot you would probably hear just as many bad things about them. Just my opinion __________________ 2003 Cobra 9.5 @ 146 on radials Just a few bolt ons with a good tune 04 Mach1 9.78 @ 138.9

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