Patriot Heads?

01dutchGT · November 23rd, 2007, 04:15 AM

Stage II Patriot Performance heads and a comp XE262AH cam. The heads will be $1295 and the cams will be $575.00.....this is what the guy from patriot performance said would work well with my car, are there heads good or should i buy from someone else. I want the cam to be big enough to give me a very mean lope so is this cam big enough.

mdvaldosta · November 23rd, 2007, 08:39 AM

Patriot used to have a bad reputation a few years ago but it's much better now. They sell some pretty good heads for the money.

Badasstang281 · November 23rd, 2007, 09:01 AM

go with the VT stage 2 N/A cams. thay have a 108 LSA a mean lope

http://www.youtube.com/v/H4yshtsVTH4&rel=1

contentsunderpressur · November 23rd, 2007, 09:09 AM

Patriot heads are pretty good. That's what I have. Just check the plugs in the back of them that block off the unused oil passages and make sure they're tight. The VT cams have a more aggressive chop to them and they don't have a 5 degree advance ground into them so you don't have to degree them when you install them.

StangAddiction · November 23rd, 2007, 09:13 AM

I'd reccomend xe270 cams...i have em and i love em...Actually...I've got a video of the idle here:

YouTube - 2000 GT Idle

Boomer · November 23rd, 2007, 09:16 AM

Save your money !!! Patriot bought all the heads from ford that were not even up to fords standards to use, they are called Blems (short for blemish). They say they have resolved their troubles, do you really want to chance finding out the hard way. Do a search on most any forum you'll see dozens of failures.

04GTAMPA · November 23rd, 2007, 11:12 AM

don't notice any cam lope on stang up there...

r3dn3ck · November 23rd, 2007, 11:21 AM

I have 270's on my 5.5L. They're great for my combo. Lope is mild but definitely there.

04GTAMPA · November 23rd, 2007, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Boomer

Save your money !!! Patriot bought all the heads from ford that were not even up to fords standards to use, they are called Blems (short for blemish). They say they have resolved their troubles, do you really want to chance finding out the hard way. Do a search on most any forum you'll see dozens of failures.

Are you serious? Since when does FORD has a "quality control" system in place?...Please. "Not even up to fords standards to use"....

JohnC · November 23rd, 2007, 12:06 PM

I hear VT Engines is having problems, so I wouldn't send any money their way until things get fixed.

Trouble at VT Engines - Modular Depot Forums

KhaosGT · November 23rd, 2007, 12:14 PM

From what i have read foxlake would be the way to go

ChrisJ · November 23rd, 2007, 12:17 PM

Patriot Heads are junk in my book...I know they have supposedly fixed all the valve issues and such that were giving them issues but I am still hearing the horror stories...

Im going with a set of 2.5 heads from Modular PowerHouse

They have the best heads hands down IMHO...

Steen Racing Website also have some AWESOME heads from what I ahve seen and heard...Actually Steen is going to be building MPH's heads comign here soon...

Boomer · November 23rd, 2007, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by 04GTAMPA

Are you serious? Since when does FORD has a "quality control" system in place?...Please. "Not even up to fords standards to use"....

This is fact, you may not believe it but it is true. Ford had 1000's that had issues that could have led to a major recall. I know I could still pick these heads up myself, why would I want to use junk.

StangAddiction · November 23rd, 2007, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by 04GTAMPA

don't notice any cam lope on stang up there...

Well with the tune the idle set so high its not as noticeable as it used to be.. I used to have the stock idle at about 750-800 rpms and the lope caused to to lose vacuum and shut off.. So i had it retuned to idle at 900rpms after warmup...But view a vid of a stock mustang.. you should notice a difference.

And btw, the heads i have are Steen Racing Stage 2 heads...I agree w/ chris..Awesome..

04GTAMPA · November 23rd, 2007, 07:10 PM

^ I have cams as well....

03 R Code · November 23rd, 2007, 07:47 PM

Boss330 racing. He's in Vero Beach FL and has a great reputation with modular engine work. I think he's pretty expensive but never heard a single bad thing about his work.

Boss330 Racing > Home

The web site is unfinished and sucks, but it's got a contact # on it.

contentsunderpressur · November 23rd, 2007, 08:15 PM

You guys do know that noone makes an aftermarket head for the 4.6 right? They are all ford heads that have been ported with the springs and valves changed. What exactly were the problems Patriot was having with there heads?

contentsunderpressur · November 23rd, 2007, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisJ

Patriot Heads are junk in my book...I know they have supposedly fixed all the valve issues and such that were giving them issues but I am still hearing the horror stories...

Im going with a set of 2.5 heads from Modular PowerHouse

They have the best heads hands down IMHO...

Steen Racing Website also have some AWESOME heads from what I ahve seen and heard...Actually Steen is going to be building MPH's heads comign here soon...

Modular powerhouse wants over 2 thousand dollars for there heads. That's very very expensive compared to Patriot.

ChrisJ · November 23rd, 2007, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by contentsunderpressur

Modular powerhouse wants over 2 thousand dollars for there heads. That's very very expensive compared to Patriot.

Theres a reason why there heads are more expensive...They are better...But MPH is now going to have Steen doing their heads so its goodtimes...

Some issues just to name a few...Warped heads coming out of the box...Sparkplug threads falling out of the heads right out of the box...Bad valves...Exessive oil consumption...And many more...They say they have fixed the issue but from what I have seen and heard they are far from being fixed...

MustangMatt96GT · November 23rd, 2007, 11:15 PM

I will never put anything that says patriot on my car. To many bad stories about them!

November 23rd, 2007, 04:15 AM	#1
01dutchGT Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 427	Patriot Heads? Stage II Patriot Performance heads and a comp XE262AH cam. The heads will be $1295 and the cams will be $575.00.....this is what the guy from patriot performance said would work well with my car, are there heads good or should i buy from someone else. I want the cam to be big enough to give me a very mean lope so is this cam big enough. __________________ 2001 mustang gt 5 speed Full bolt ons with 4.10 gears. 1965 Mustang 302 with 4 Barrel edelbrock 600cfm, T5 transmission, Hurst short throw shifter. In the process of restoring it...

November 23rd, 2007, 08:39 AM	#2
mdvaldosta Maintenance Man 2002 Mustang GT 11.47@120.58 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Valdosta, GA Posts: 3,941	Patriot Used To Have A Bad Reputation Patriot used to have a bad reputation a few years ago but it's much better now. They sell some pretty good heads for the money.

November 23rd, 2007, 09:01 AM	#3
Badasstang281 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 385	go with the VT stage 2 N/A cams. thay have a 108 LSA a mean lope http://www.youtube.com/v/H4yshtsVTH4&rel=1 __________________ BBK cai P&P 75mmtb P&P plenum BASSANI exhaust MAC x-pipe NO CAT"S ACCEL direct fire coils NGK iridium spark plugs lX7 Eibach pro-kit springs

November 23rd, 2007, 09:09 AM	#4
contentsunderpressur Newbie 03 mustang GT 7.28 in 1/8th Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bay Minette, AL Posts: 31	Patriot heads are pretty good. That's what I have. Just check the plugs in the back of them that block off the unused oil passages and make sure they're tight. The VT cams have a more aggressive chop to them and they don't have a 5 degree advance ground into them so you don't have to degree them when you install them. __________________ 506 rwhp. Procharger, nx nitrous kit, bla bla bla

November 23rd, 2007, 09:16 AM	#6
Boomer Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: warren, Mi Posts: 939	Save your money !!! Patriot bought all the heads from ford that were not even up to fords standards to use, they are called Blems (short for blemish). They say they have resolved their troubles, do you really want to chance finding out the hard way. Do a search on most any forum you'll see dozens of failures. __________________ Just another 10 second Mustang, what did you expect ? http://youtube.com/watch?v=BgykaUrmfvM

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November 23rd, 2007, 11:12 AM	#7
04GTAMPA Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 2,260	don't notice any cam lope on stang up there... __________________

November 23rd, 2007, 11:21 AM	#8
r3dn3ck Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 188	I have 270's on my 5.5L. They're great for my combo. Lope is mild but definitely there.

November 23rd, 2007, 12:06 PM	#10
JohnC Regular 1997 Mustang GT 13.56@102.94 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Murfreesboro and Old Hickory, TN Posts: 466	I hear VT Engines is having problems, so I wouldn't send any money their way until things get fixed. Trouble at VT Engines - Modular Depot Forums __________________ 1997 Mustang GT Aluminum Block PI swap & 4R70W to TR3550 swapped. Best 1/8: 2.04 60ft 8.74@81.85 & Best 1/4: 2.04 60ft 13.56@102.94 all on stock 245-17's My Garage

November 23rd, 2007, 12:14 PM	#11
KhaosGT Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 819	From what i have read foxlake would be the way to go __________________ 2004 Black Mustang Gt "I'm a agent of chaos" -Joker,Dark Knight

November 23rd, 2007, 12:17 PM	#12
ChrisJ "Slow Ass Car" 2002 Mustang GT SLOW Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 17,430	Patriot Heads are junk in my book...I know they have supposedly fixed all the valve issues and such that were giving them issues but I am still hearing the horror stories... Im going with a set of 2.5 heads from Modular PowerHouse They have the best heads hands down IMHO... Steen Racing Website also have some AWESOME heads from what I ahve seen and heard...Actually Steen is going to be building MPH's heads comign here soon... __________________ PARTING OUT MY XBOX 360 www.myspace.com/cjobe

November 23rd, 2007, 07:10 PM	#15
04GTAMPA Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 2,260	^ I have cams as well.... __________________

November 23rd, 2007, 07:47 PM	#16
03 R Code Hardcore Enthusiast unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 2,930	Boss330 racing. He's in Vero Beach FL and has a great reputation with modular engine work. I think he's pretty expensive but never heard a single bad thing about his work. Boss330 Racing > Home The web site is unfinished and sucks, but it's got a contact # on it. __________________ Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

November 23rd, 2007, 08:15 PM	#17
contentsunderpressur Newbie 03 mustang GT 7.28 in 1/8th Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bay Minette, AL Posts: 31	You guys do know that noone makes an aftermarket head for the 4.6 right? They are all ford heads that have been ported with the springs and valves changed. What exactly were the problems Patriot was having with there heads? __________________ 506 rwhp. Procharger, nx nitrous kit, bla bla bla

November 23rd, 2007, 11:15 PM	#20
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.36@110 with d/a of 8330 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,943	I will never put anything that says patriot on my car. To many bad stories about them! __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-part-3-a.html Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions

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