N20 vs. Cams

JStang14 · December 7th, 2007, 01:39 AM

Just a little poll for you guys while i'm debating what I do next summer to the 03 engine goin in my 96 GT. I'd like to stay NA but nitrous is easy HP. So i'm wondering if i want to be decently over 300RWHP and i'm getting a CAI, Cobra 80mm Mass air, Accufab plenum and 75mm TB, pulleys, and 24lb injectors. Should I go with the NX plate system or some good Comp Cams?
Let me know cuz i'm sick of this slow 96 engine.

PS i already have full exhaust.

Mach Boy · December 7th, 2007, 01:44 AM

Duece I've been telling you forever to add a set of gears and a tuner. You are definitely gonna need it with having a more powerful engine and adding some boltons.

SWEET2KSTANG · December 7th, 2007, 03:26 AM

do a pi intake and p&p pi headswap with a set of cams and header back exhaust. npi cars have shown 99rwhp gains off that. take the 03 motor and forge it and have it ready for a big shot of n2o.

JStang14 · December 7th, 2007, 03:42 AM

i'm getting gears and a tuner too buddy dont worry, probably pick up a lot of parts at WFC 11 hopefully its in indy again, even though you're in the lou now

JStang14 · December 7th, 2007, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG

do a pi intake and p&p pi headswap with a set of cams and header back exhaust. npi cars have shown 99rwhp gains off that. take the 03 motor and forge it and have it ready for a big shot of n2o.

my pockets arent deep enough for that, the 03 engine is going in next summer so the cams would go in it

SWEET2KSTANG · December 7th, 2007, 05:18 AM

cams would be nice all around power, but n2o would give a lot bigger gain. the depending on the cam you get, you may not want to use them in the pi motor.

Mathos1 · December 7th, 2007, 12:34 PM

i would go for VT stage 2's for a "daily driver"

Avaric3 · December 7th, 2007, 12:43 PM

full pi swap and a comp cam instead of the nitrous

JStang14 · December 7th, 2007, 02:23 PM

the 03 engine already is pi and it is a daily driver

JStang14 · December 8th, 2007, 02:33 PM

i think i want to go with comp XE278 cams. what kinda horse would i see with something like these?

2000stangGT · December 8th, 2007, 02:43 PM

that cam would be pretty worthless without headwork

SWEET2KSTANG · December 9th, 2007, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by 2000stangGT

that cam would be pretty worthless without headwork

plus there is a ptv clearence with them too on stock pistons on 0 timing.

2000stangGT · December 9th, 2007, 10:36 AM

even the comp 270s have ptv issues.

when i talked to crower they said their stage 2 should be fine.
also look up flowtech, hitech, and customs grinds

limited · December 9th, 2007, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by JStang14

Just a little poll for you guys while i'm debating what I do next summer to the 03 engine goin in my 96 GT. I'd like to stay NA but nitrous is easy HP. So i'm wondering if i want to be decently over 300RWHP and i'm getting a CAI, Cobra 80mm Mass air, Accufab plenum and 75mm TB, pulleys, and 24lb injectors. Should I go with the NX plate system or some good Comp Cams?
Let me know cuz i'm sick of this slow 96 engine.

PS i already have full exhaust.

the stock 03 mass air is 85mm,And I thought 24lb inj.were stock(could be 19lb) anyway, I would go for the nitrous if your leaving the internals alone. just go with a smaller shot,like a 100,then if you build in future you already will have the bottle,lines,switches,purge etc already in place for a bigger shot when you forge and add cams. more bang(no pun intended) for your buck imo

JStang14 · December 9th, 2007, 02:07 PM

i've got a mass air out of a cobra and the stock injectors are 21lb they are 19 on my 96 engine but i've got 24's to put on the new motor

limited · December 9th, 2007, 02:42 PM

unless you are adding nitrous,there is no need for larger injectors.

mustangmanic · December 9th, 2007, 02:59 PM

I say n2o cams with n2o haha... really though~

JStang14 · December 9th, 2007, 03:06 PM

the mass air is calibrated for the 24's

Smoothgrandmama · December 9th, 2007, 10:00 PM

Cams.
I'm no Fan of "Short Term Power"

Like What if You race someone and win do a re-match and run outta juice?

What Do You tell that guy after he hands You Your butt on a platter?

"Ummm My short term Power Booster Ran out?"

ShapeShifter · December 9th, 2007, 10:10 PM

both cams and nitrous...btw, why not put the PI Swap on your 96 GT Block? more compression,more power, better results there...i have a buddy who has a 98 GT w/PI Swap+Full Bolt-Ons+4.30's, slicks, launching at 5k=12.6x N/A...11's on juice....

View Poll Results: N20 vs. Cams
N2O	12	35.29%
Cams	22	64.71%
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December 7th, 2007, 01:39 AM	#1
JStang14 Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Greenwood, IN Posts: 590 iTrader: 0 reviews	N20 vs. Cams Just a little poll for you guys while i'm debating what I do next summer to the 03 engine goin in my 96 GT. I'd like to stay NA but nitrous is easy HP. So i'm wondering if i want to be decently over 300RWHP and i'm getting a CAI, Cobra 80mm Mass air, Accufab plenum and 75mm TB, pulleys, and 24lb injectors. Should I go with the NX plate system or some good Comp Cams? Let me know cuz i'm sick of this slow 96 engine. PS i already have full exhaust.

December 7th, 2007, 01:44 AM	#2
Mach Boy MM's Orangest 2004 Mach 1 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indy Posts: 2,820 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	Duece I've been telling you forever to add a set of gears and a tuner. You are definitely gonna need it with having a more powerful engine and adding some boltons. __________________ 360HP / 345TQ N/A

December 7th, 2007, 03:26 AM	#3
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	do a pi intake and p&p pi headswap with a set of cams and header back exhaust. npi cars have shown 99rwhp gains off that. take the 03 motor and forge it and have it ready for a big shot of n2o. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

December 7th, 2007, 05:18 AM	#6
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	cams would be nice all around power, but n2o would give a lot bigger gain. the depending on the cam you get, you may not want to use them in the pi motor. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

December 7th, 2007, 03:42 AM	#4
JStang14 Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Greenwood, IN Posts: 590 iTrader: 0 reviews	i'm getting gears and a tuner too buddy dont worry, probably pick up a lot of parts at WFC 11 hopefully its in indy again, even though you're in the lou now

December 7th, 2007, 12:34 PM	#7
Mathos1 Regular "2k GT" 13.9 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: RGV Posts: 165 iTrader: 0 reviews	i would go for VT stage 2's for a "daily driver"

December 7th, 2007, 12:43 PM	#8
Avaric3 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Ford Focus slow as fuck Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: M-Pan, NJ Posts: 2,561 iTrader: 4 reviews	full pi swap and a comp cam instead of the nitrous __________________ 99 V6 Mustang-sold 02 Ford Focus-sold 98 Camaro Z/28-lid, catback

December 7th, 2007, 02:23 PM	#9
JStang14 Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Greenwood, IN Posts: 590 iTrader: 0 reviews	the 03 engine already is pi and it is a daily driver

December 8th, 2007, 02:33 PM	#10
JStang14 Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Greenwood, IN Posts: 590 iTrader: 0 reviews	i think i want to go with comp XE278 cams. what kinda horse would i see with something like these?

December 8th, 2007, 02:43 PM	#11
2000stangGT Enthusiast 2000 Mustang Gt 13.56 @ 106 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: CT Posts: 806 iTrader: 0 reviews	that cam would be pretty worthless without headwork __________________ JLT - Accufab - MPH Heads - VT Stage 2 N/A cams Manley Valves/Springs - Centerforce Dual Friction BBK LT's - BBK o/r H - Bassani catback FRPP 4.10s - XCAL2 - BBK UDP's 306rwhp/333rwtq

December 9th, 2007, 10:36 AM	#13
2000stangGT Enthusiast 2000 Mustang Gt 13.56 @ 106 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: CT Posts: 806 iTrader: 0 reviews	even the comp 270s have ptv issues. when i talked to crower they said their stage 2 should be fine. also look up flowtech, hitech, and customs grinds __________________ JLT - Accufab - MPH Heads - VT Stage 2 N/A cams Manley Valves/Springs - Centerforce Dual Friction BBK LT's - BBK o/r H - Bassani catback FRPP 4.10s - XCAL2 - BBK UDP's 306rwhp/333rwtq

December 9th, 2007, 02:07 PM	#15
JStang14 Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Greenwood, IN Posts: 590 iTrader: 0 reviews	i've got a mass air out of a cobra and the stock injectors are 21lb they are 19 on my 96 engine but i've got 24's to put on the new motor

December 9th, 2007, 02:42 PM	#16
limited Premium Member 99 limited edition vert Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tacoma,Washington Posts: 3,067 iTrader: 0 reviews	unless you are adding nitrous,there is no need for larger injectors. __________________ KB'd 446rwhp/451rwtq, Mustang Dyno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZDpQ0EEm1M Tuned by Joe at http://www.tricktuners.com

December 9th, 2007, 02:59 PM	#17
mustangmanic MM Fanatic 2002 Mustang GT 13.334 @ 106.27 w/2.01 60' Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 3,108 iTrader: 2 reviews	I say n2o cams with n2o haha... really though~ __________________

December 9th, 2007, 03:06 PM	#18
JStang14 Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Greenwood, IN Posts: 590 iTrader: 0 reviews	the mass air is calibrated for the 24's

December 9th, 2007, 10:00 PM	#19
Smoothgrandmama MasterDeBater 12 GT 8.46@88 1/8 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Willis,Texas Posts: 6,893 iTrader: 6 reviews	Cams. I'm no Fan of "Short Term Power" Like What if You race someone and win do a re-match and run outta juice? What Do You tell that guy after he hands You Your butt on a platter? "Ummm My short term Power Booster Ran out?" __________________ Join The MM Facebook: Modded Mustangs Facebook Vote For Modded Mustangs Ride of the Month Eskimo Brothers To Smooth: Safi, Blitz34, Graystang01, WillTheThrill, Bwal

December 9th, 2007, 10:10 PM	#20
ShapeShifter Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,354 iTrader: 0 reviews	both cams and nitrous...btw, why not put the PI Swap on your 96 GT Block? more compression,more power, better results there...i have a buddy who has a 98 GT w/PI Swap+Full Bolt-Ons+4.30's, slicks, launching at 5k=12.6x N/A...11's on juice.... __________________ N/A Auto 2-Valve 1.74' 60ft 12.79 @ 105.5

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