New Exhaust Starting At Headers?

02Gt Stang · September 1st, 2006, 10:15 PM

Next weekend im upgrading my exhaust and i have been reading around the site and so far all i got out of it has been go with ceramic headers. Which i plan on doing now. BUt i want to redue all of my exhaust for my 02 gt. My price range is from 1000-1800. My neighbor is a mechanic and he works out of his home shop and i sold him a car for free ( when i got my stang)so i got free labour for a while. what do you guys recommend thanks.

Drgnracin72 · September 1st, 2006, 10:19 PM

well kooks headers are top notch but are kinca pricey! i think yu shoudl check out those headers, a good x- or h-pipe and then find a good catback. i am running bbk ceramic headers, bbk o/r h-pipe, and slp lmII. i think i have about $1000 in this setup. its sounds amazing. havnt heard it on my car but have seen several others that had the smae setup and it csounds wicked

02Gt Stang · September 1st, 2006, 10:22 PM

Ive just started to upgrade my car and in the long haul i plan on throwing in a turbo . I have just done my cold air and next is my exhaust. whats the difference between h and x pipe. I plan on putting in long tube headers is that good for performance? is the cat back system a muffler system ?

Drgnracin72 · September 1st, 2006, 11:09 PM

the lont tube headers will be better for performance wise. the h-pipe looks like an h. it puts the two exhaust sides together and then goes to the cat back system which is basically the mufflers and stuff. the x-pipe will flow a little better. it looks like an x.
the x-pipe sounds rapier than the h.
the h-pipe is a lot deeper and lower sounding.
there is a little more power to be amde with the x or the h but you wont notice it at all

Sable · September 2nd, 2006, 03:27 AM

Hold your horses buddy!! You are doing a turbo? That changes everything when it comes to your exhaust especially your headers!! Before you spend any money on headers think about the turbo you plan on using and how where it is installed. You don't want to buy headers now that you will just yank out when the turbo goes in. That would be a waste of money!! Plan it out and save yourself some cash!

Drgnracin72 · September 2nd, 2006, 04:14 AM

but if turbos are a long time away. it wont hurt to get the gains now. turbos are very expensive

02Gt Stang · September 2nd, 2006, 05:47 PM

so id have to look at the turbo i plan on doing than put in headers that would fit with them?

Drgnracin72 · September 2nd, 2006, 06:04 PM

yep. also realise that whe n you go turbo your going ot have to change out your k-member for a tubular k-member. so youll need to check with whatveer turbo your gonna get omes with. i say go ahead and put the l/ts on since itll be awhile before your gonna do the turbo system. most well made and out together trbo systems should come with their own manifolds so you shouldnt have to worry about piecing together which manifolds work. good lck

AtxStang · September 2nd, 2006, 07:16 PM

If you want to spend money on headers now, then go with a S/C later on down the road instead of a turbo.

raceruler03 · September 2nd, 2006, 07:20 PM

turbo wow

raceruler03 · September 2nd, 2006, 07:20 PM

yeah turbos are a lot of trouble, but a nice twin turbo kit will put a gt well over 500hp granted youll have to have a forged block and drill oil line into block

Drgnracin72 · September 2nd, 2006, 07:40 PM

yeah and a nice twin turbo sytem will cost you about 8 grand plus another 6-7 grand to maek it run right and get it installed. plus all of the fuel mods youll have to do to handle the powa

raceruler03 · September 2nd, 2006, 08:03 PM

true, but it looks so good when someone pops that hood. Eh Id rather not waste the money and just go with a supercharger.

Sable · September 3rd, 2006, 12:54 AM

IMO - I wouldn't waste money on headers if I was only going to take them off for a turbo setup with which I couldn't use them. Selling them on eBay would just net you a loss... But that is just my opinion.

02Gt Stang · September 3rd, 2006, 02:28 PM

Yeah its gonna be a good two years before i do any forced induction. So if i do happen to put in a supercharger with new headers, h pipe and a cat back with new pulleys and cold air and a new intake manifold what should i expect at the wheel?

Drgnracin72 · September 3rd, 2006, 05:55 PM

there are way to many factors to say what you ll get, it all depends on how much you boost and the tune. but you could expect anywhere from 360 to 450 rwhp

02Gt Stang · September 3rd, 2006, 09:55 PM

I live in Canada and i havent heard of any restrictions regarding exhaust emmisions. SO would it be alright if i bought an off road h pipe and just skipped the cat back system to gain more horse?

Drgnracin72 · September 4th, 2006, 12:22 AM

well you need the catback. the h-pipe comes off of the headers and then the catback comes off of the mid pipe whcih is your h-pipe/ itll be very loud and annoying if you dont put the catback on

02Gt Stang · September 5th, 2006, 11:33 PM

Hey i just got my quote back on my labour for my exhaust system. With BBK ceramic headers, a bbk x pipe, and a magno flow system with labour it is 2000$ cdn so about 1800 american is that a good price or should i shop around?

raceruler03 · September 6th, 2006, 12:25 AM

Id say shop around. You can do everything but the mufflers yourself, that is unless you know how to weld. That seems a lil expensive

September 1st, 2006, 10:15 PM	#1
02Gt Stang Regular 2002 Mustang GT 13.6@102 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 127 iTrader: 0 reviews	New Exhaust Starting At Headers? Next weekend im upgrading my exhaust and i have been reading around the site and so far all i got out of it has been go with ceramic headers. Which i plan on doing now. BUt i want to redue all of my exhaust for my 02 gt. My price range is from 1000-1800. My neighbor is a mechanic and he works out of his home shop and i sold him a car for free ( when i got my stang)so i got free labour for a while. what do you guys recommend thanks.

September 1st, 2006, 10:19 PM	#2
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	well kooks headers are top notch but are kinca pricey! i think yu shoudl check out those headers, a good x- or h-pipe and then find a good catback. i am running bbk ceramic headers, bbk o/r h-pipe, and slp lmII. i think i have about $1000 in this setup. its sounds amazing. havnt heard it on my car but have seen several others that had the smae setup and it csounds wicked __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

September 1st, 2006, 10:22 PM	#3
02Gt Stang Regular 2002 Mustang GT 13.6@102 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 127 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ive just started to upgrade my car and in the long haul i plan on throwing in a turbo . I have just done my cold air and next is my exhaust. whats the difference between h and x pipe. I plan on putting in long tube headers is that good for performance? is the cat back system a muffler system ? __________________ Procharged 383 rwhp/ 391 rwtq

September 1st, 2006, 11:09 PM	#4
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	the lont tube headers will be better for performance wise. the h-pipe looks like an h. it puts the two exhaust sides together and then goes to the cat back system which is basically the mufflers and stuff. the x-pipe will flow a little better. it looks like an x. the x-pipe sounds rapier than the h. the h-pipe is a lot deeper and lower sounding. there is a little more power to be amde with the x or the h but you wont notice it at all __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

September 2nd, 2006, 03:27 AM	#5
Sable Regular 2002 Mustang GT 12.8@109 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 106 iTrader: 0 reviews	Hold your horses buddy!! You are doing a turbo? That changes everything when it comes to your exhaust especially your headers!! Before you spend any money on headers think about the turbo you plan on using and how where it is installed. You don't want to buy headers now that you will just yank out when the turbo goes in. That would be a waste of money!! Plan it out and save yourself some cash! __________________ 2002 True Blue Mustang GT M5 309 rwhp 320 rwtq tune by Big Shot Dyno Best: 12.8 @ 109 mph 2004 Cosmos GTO M6 (1 of 366) 530 RWHP 510 RWT Tuned by Back Street Performance Best: 11.33 @ 129mph

September 2nd, 2006, 04:14 AM	#6
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	but if turbos are a long time away. it wont hurt to get the gains now. turbos are very expensive __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

September 2nd, 2006, 05:47 PM	#7
02Gt Stang Regular 2002 Mustang GT 13.6@102 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 127 iTrader: 0 reviews	so id have to look at the turbo i plan on doing than put in headers that would fit with them? __________________ Procharged 383 rwhp/ 391 rwtq

September 2nd, 2006, 06:04 PM	#8
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	yep. also realise that whe n you go turbo your going ot have to change out your k-member for a tubular k-member. so youll need to check with whatveer turbo your gonna get omes with. i say go ahead and put the l/ts on since itll be awhile before your gonna do the turbo system. most well made and out together trbo systems should come with their own manifolds so you shouldnt have to worry about piecing together which manifolds work. good lck __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

September 2nd, 2006, 07:16 PM	#9
AtxStang Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 116 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you want to spend money on headers now, then go with a S/C later on down the road instead of a turbo.

September 2nd, 2006, 07:20 PM	#10
raceruler03 Enthusiast 2000 mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: georgia Posts: 913 iTrader: 0 reviews	turbo turbo wow

September 2nd, 2006, 07:40 PM	#12
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	yeah and a nice twin turbo sytem will cost you about 8 grand plus another 6-7 grand to maek it run right and get it installed. plus all of the fuel mods youll have to do to handle the powa __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

September 2nd, 2006, 08:03 PM	#13
raceruler03 Enthusiast 2000 mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: georgia Posts: 913 iTrader: 0 reviews	true, but it looks so good when someone pops that hood. Eh Id rather not waste the money and just go with a supercharger. __________________ http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...donecopy-1.jpg

September 3rd, 2006, 12:54 AM	#14
Sable Regular 2002 Mustang GT 12.8@109 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 106 iTrader: 0 reviews	IMO - I wouldn't waste money on headers if I was only going to take them off for a turbo setup with which I couldn't use them. Selling them on eBay would just net you a loss... But that is just my opinion. __________________ 2002 True Blue Mustang GT M5 309 rwhp 320 rwtq tune by Big Shot Dyno Best: 12.8 @ 109 mph 2004 Cosmos GTO M6 (1 of 366) 530 RWHP 510 RWT Tuned by Back Street Performance Best: 11.33 @ 129mph

September 3rd, 2006, 02:28 PM	#15
02Gt Stang Regular 2002 Mustang GT 13.6@102 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 127 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yeah its gonna be a good two years before i do any forced induction. So if i do happen to put in a supercharger with new headers, h pipe and a cat back with new pulleys and cold air and a new intake manifold what should i expect at the wheel? __________________ Procharged 383 rwhp/ 391 rwtq

September 3rd, 2006, 05:55 PM	#16
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	there are way to many factors to say what you ll get, it all depends on how much you boost and the tune. but you could expect anywhere from 360 to 450 rwhp __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

September 3rd, 2006, 09:55 PM	#17
02Gt Stang Regular 2002 Mustang GT 13.6@102 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 127 iTrader: 0 reviews	I live in Canada and i havent heard of any restrictions regarding exhaust emmisions. SO would it be alright if i bought an off road h pipe and just skipped the cat back system to gain more horse? __________________ Procharged 383 rwhp/ 391 rwtq

September 4th, 2006, 12:22 AM	#18
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	well you need the catback. the h-pipe comes off of the headers and then the catback comes off of the mid pipe whcih is your h-pipe/ itll be very loud and annoying if you dont put the catback on __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

September 5th, 2006, 11:33 PM	#19
02Gt Stang Regular 2002 Mustang GT 13.6@102 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 127 iTrader: 0 reviews	Hey i just got my quote back on my labour for my exhaust system. With BBK ceramic headers, a bbk x pipe, and a magno flow system with labour it is 2000$ cdn so about 1800 american is that a good price or should i shop around? __________________ Procharged 383 rwhp/ 391 rwtq

September 6th, 2006, 12:25 AM	#20
raceruler03 Enthusiast 2000 mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: georgia Posts: 913 iTrader: 0 reviews	Id say shop around. You can do everything but the mufflers yourself, that is unless you know how to weld. That seems a lil expensive __________________ http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...donecopy-1.jpg

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