P&P TB / Plenum or LT Headers?

DustinV8 · December 30th, 2007, 05:23 PM

ok guys i got a budget of about $500, i am really looking for a p&p tb/plenum set but i cant find any sets that are pp if you guys could show me where to get it would help a ton, i am debaiting on that or lt headers, which would give me the best gain? and remeber i also have to pay for labor on the lt headers so i wouldnt be able to install untill next payday i could do the tb/plenum myself.
thanks

EDIT crap ment to ask about tb spacers to, these worth it??

HMUSN · December 30th, 2007, 05:27 PM

get the Long Tubes. IMO
as far as the plenum/ TB Accufab is always a great choice.

EDIT

spacers won't do jack for your car.

DustinV8 · December 30th, 2007, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

get the Long Tubes. IMO
as far as the plenum/ TB Accufab is always a great choice.

EDIT

spacers won't do jack for your car.

ok whats the deal with these ceramic stuff, like if you had the cash what pair would you pick up, also whats the price around on labor? thanks for your help

mjkids · December 30th, 2007, 05:32 PM

i think the headers would be my first choice and then the tb but the labor on the header will be a little bit and if you can wait i would do the headers. (do long tubes)

Doc8224 · December 30th, 2007, 05:38 PM

If money was no object I would get stainless steal headers. But that is never the case. Ceramic coated headers and HTS coated headers are best for keeping underhood heat down and the coating won't just burn off like painted headers. Get the LT's, best gains and they will sound good as well. As for the TB and plenum, if you are set on a p&p set, PM sweet2kstang he does em very well. He did the P&P work on my TB and its top notch. Price is pretty good too.

HMUSN · December 30th, 2007, 05:38 PM

there are lots of good brands of headers..
ceramics are a good choice.
unless you like polishing SS ones. lol

I like BBK.

mjkids · December 30th, 2007, 05:39 PM

[quote=HMUSN;745877]get the Long Tubes. IMO
as far as the plenum/ TB Accufab is always a great choice.

i agree with the accufab all the way

MustangMatt96GT · December 30th, 2007, 05:49 PM

mjkids: where did you get the braided lines, and your radiator?

Hooker Headers are what im going wiht and havent heard anything that says they are bad.

mjkids · December 30th, 2007, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

mjkids: where did you get the braided lines, and your radiator?

Hooker Headers are what im going wiht and havent heard anything that says they are bad.

a place that makes line for everything faxon. me and my buddy that built my car pick up some stuff from them and made the line's

ChrisJ · December 30th, 2007, 06:03 PM

Go with the ceramic coated headers...They are better the SS headers because the ceramic coating helps control heat better...

But the install on longtubes is not something you can really do easily yourself...

The TB and Plenum combo is nice and easy to install but you wont see gains like you would with the longtubes...

DustinV8 · December 30th, 2007, 09:16 PM

thanks for the feedback guys, i got afew last questions befor i buy, i got a bbk offroad h-pipe.

i thinking about 2
First: Stage 3 Motorsports 1996-2004 Mustang GT Pacesetter Long Tube Headers (Ceramic)

Second:Stage 3 Motorsports 1996-04 Mustang GT BBK Long Tube Headers - Chrome

should i get the bbk to match my midpipe or get the offbrand that are ceramic =/

SWEET2KSTANG · December 30th, 2007, 10:00 PM

i heard of firment issues with the pacesetters and the headman. i was looking at the headman headers, but changed my mind after doing some research. lt's will give a better gain, but p&p stuff isnt that expensive either. the chrome will change color if you are concerned about any of that. i can do a t/b and plenum combo for a damn decent price, if you're interested just shoot me a pm.

mjkids · December 30th, 2007, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG

i heard of firment issues with the pacesetters and the headman. i was looking at the headman headers, but changed my mind after doing some research. lt's will give a better gain, but p&p stuff isnt that expensive either. the chrome will change color if you are concerned about any of that. i can do a t/b and plenum combo for a damn decent price, if you're interested just shoot me a pm.

what's up with the tb and plenum if you don't mind me asking

SWEET2KSTANG · December 30th, 2007, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by mjkids

what's up with the tb and plenum if you don't mind me asking

price wise??? or what?

mjkids · December 30th, 2007, 10:22 PM

you sell them

DustinV8 · December 30th, 2007, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG

i heard of firment issues with the pacesetters and the headman. i was looking at the headman headers, but changed my mind after doing some research. lt's will give a better gain, but p&p stuff isnt that expensive either. the chrome will change color if you are concerned about any of that. i can do a t/b and plenum combo for a damn decent price, if you're interested just shoot me a pm.

so should i stay clear of pacesetters? i would be more than happy with the chrome bbk but why get chrome when i can get ceramic for the same price? but if you think i should stay clear i will take your advise, asfar as the pp goes the tb combo will be my next mod so i will pm you inafew weeks mostlikely if you wanna shoot me a price i will keep it in mind while shopping around.

SWEET2KSTANG · December 30th, 2007, 10:36 PM

yeah. i had a lot of them and i finally got all but 1 plenum sold. i have been to lazy lately to get more and do them. i have all the bits, wheels, polisher, etc to make them look like they were make like that. i do a lot of p&p work, i can do just about anything except for blowers. p&p or just polishing, engine building, tuning, etc. i have been doing this stuff for a while and have a nice rep for my cars and work around here. a a few things have went wrong, and has made me put off my shop thing for a little while. but me and doc will have one opened up before long. i will hopefully get things straitened out soon and get it built and become a vendor.

SWEET2KSTANG · December 30th, 2007, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by DustinV8

so should i stay clear of pacesetters? i would be more than happy with the chrome bbk but why get chrome when i can get ceramic for the same price? but if you think i should stay clear i will take your advise, asfar as the pp goes the tb combo will be my next mod so i will pm you inafew weeks mostlikely if you wanna shoot me a price i will keep it in mind while shopping around.

you will be happier with bbk, pacesetter is a hit or miss with fitment. there is no reason to sacrifice quality, fitment, reputation, and etc. for a few bucks. if you find ceramic for the same price as chrome, jump on it! ceramic is about as good as it gets.

GTblackprodigy · December 31st, 2007, 06:00 AM

get the long tube headers and let the bitch breathe!!!

zerofx150 · December 31st, 2007, 09:08 AM

do long tubes, and go ceramic and install them yourself

December 30th, 2007, 05:23 PM	#1
DustinV8 Newbie 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 32	P&P TB / Plenum or LT Headers? ok guys i got a budget of about $500, i am really looking for a p&p tb/plenum set but i cant find any sets that are pp if you guys could show me where to get it would help a ton, i am debaiting on that or lt headers, which would give me the best gain? and remeber i also have to pay for labor on the lt headers so i wouldnt be able to install untill next payday i could do the tb/plenum myself. thanks EDIT crap ment to ask about tb spacers to, these worth it?? __________________ 03 Mustang GT 4:10 Motive Gears, MAC UD Pulley(s), K&N Ram Air Intake, H&R Lowering Springs, BBK Off Road X-Pipe with catback, Superchips Performance Tune

December 30th, 2007, 05:32 PM	#4
mjkids Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ct Posts: 718	i think the headers would be my first choice and then the tb but the labor on the header will be a little bit and if you can wait i would do the headers. (do long tubes) __________________ 2000 ford mustang gt convertible 2004 ford lightning truck 2001 ford mustang/cobra 2008 ford f-350 4x4 truck

December 30th, 2007, 05:38 PM	#5
Doc8224 N/A 4v Guru 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: N.W. Arkansas Posts: 3,039	If money was no object I would get stainless steal headers. But that is never the case. Ceramic coated headers and HTS coated headers are best for keeping underhood heat down and the coating won't just burn off like painted headers. Get the LT's, best gains and they will sound good as well. As for the TB and plenum, if you are set on a p&p set, PM sweet2kstang he does em very well. He did the P&P work on my TB and its top notch. Price is pretty good too. __________________ *Gone To Basic Training*

December 30th, 2007, 05:39 PM	#7
mjkids Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ct Posts: 718	[quote=HMUSN;745877]get the Long Tubes. IMO as far as the plenum/ TB Accufab is always a great choice. i agree with the accufab all the way Attached Thumbnails __________________ 2000 ford mustang gt convertible 2004 ford lightning truck 2001 ford mustang/cobra 2008 ford f-350 4x4 truck

December 30th, 2007, 05:49 PM	#8
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.91@105.29 @ 5800 FT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,609	mjkids: where did you get the braided lines, and your radiator? Hooker Headers are what im going wiht and havent heard anything that says they are bad. __________________ We expect shit to break, look foward to realizing exactly when it is happening, and than obsess about dropping plenty of cash to rebuild stronger, so we can try to run it hard as hell and break again. We are sick individuals. I support the MM Staff

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December 30th, 2007, 05:27 PM	#2
HMUSN Doc 91 Sonic Blue Goodness 19.83 @ 12mph Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 27,307	get the Long Tubes. IMO as far as the plenum/ TB Accufab is always a great choice. EDIT spacers won't do jack for your car.

December 30th, 2007, 06:03 PM	#10
ChrisJ MuchCoolerThanGTsetGO 2002 Mustang GT SLOW Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shepherdsville, Kentucky Posts: 16,401	Go with the ceramic coated headers...They are better the SS headers because the ceramic coating helps control heat better... But the install on longtubes is not something you can really do easily yourself... The TB and Plenum combo is nice and easy to install but you wont see gains like you would with the longtubes... __________________ My Junk www.myspace.com/cjobe

December 30th, 2007, 09:16 PM	#11
DustinV8 Newbie 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 32	thanks for the feedback guys, i got afew last questions befor i buy, i got a bbk offroad h-pipe. i thinking about 2 First: Stage 3 Motorsports 1996-2004 Mustang GT Pacesetter Long Tube Headers (Ceramic) Second:Stage 3 Motorsports 1996-04 Mustang GT BBK Long Tube Headers - Chrome should i get the bbk to match my midpipe or get the offbrand that are ceramic =/ __________________ 03 Mustang GT 4:10 Motive Gears, MAC UD Pulley(s), K&N Ram Air Intake, H&R Lowering Springs, BBK Off Road X-Pipe with catback, Superchips Performance Tune

December 30th, 2007, 10:00 PM	#12
SWEET2KSTANG I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 5,410	i heard of firment issues with the pacesetters and the headman. i was looking at the headman headers, but changed my mind after doing some research. lt's will give a better gain, but p&p stuff isnt that expensive either. the chrome will change color if you are concerned about any of that. i can do a t/b and plenum combo for a damn decent price, if you're interested just shoot me a pm. __________________ stock long block, bolt ons, slicks, and a little squeeze N/A-12.81@103.7 N2O-11.79@115.8 parting out 04 cobra, pm me for details

December 30th, 2007, 10:22 PM	#15
mjkids Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ct Posts: 718	you sell them __________________ 2000 ford mustang gt convertible 2004 ford lightning truck 2001 ford mustang/cobra 2008 ford f-350 4x4 truck

December 30th, 2007, 10:36 PM	#17
SWEET2KSTANG I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 5,410	yeah. i had a lot of them and i finally got all but 1 plenum sold. i have been to lazy lately to get more and do them. i have all the bits, wheels, polisher, etc to make them look like they were make like that. i do a lot of p&p work, i can do just about anything except for blowers. p&p or just polishing, engine building, tuning, etc. i have been doing this stuff for a while and have a nice rep for my cars and work around here. a a few things have went wrong, and has made me put off my shop thing for a little while. but me and doc will have one opened up before long. i will hopefully get things straitened out soon and get it built and become a vendor. __________________ stock long block, bolt ons, slicks, and a little squeeze N/A-12.81@103.7 N2O-11.79@115.8 parting out 04 cobra, pm me for details

December 31st, 2007, 06:00 AM	#19
GTblackprodigy Enthusiast 2001 Camaro z28 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: southern cali Posts: 602	get the long tube headers and let the bitch breathe!!! __________________ -November Birthday Club- 2001 Mustang GT(sold but not forgotten) 2001 Camaro Z28 332rwhp (on mustang dyno) -The bullshit stops once my right foot drops dont forget to REP me!!

December 31st, 2007, 09:08 AM	#20
zerofx150 Regular 2003 GT 13.6 @ 101 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ada OK Posts: 349	do long tubes, and go ceramic and install them yourself __________________ 03 GT 5sp, K&N FIPK, MAC LT ceramic coated headers, BBK o/r hipe ceramic coated, Steeda Tri-ax, 4.10, SCT X-cal2, NX plate Kit, Eibach Drag-Launch Springs, tubular upper and lower rear control arms

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