Tuner

Black02GT · January 2nd, 2008, 10:36 PM

SCT or DIABLO

or any others?

i want a tuner, just got a raise.. and income tax is coming up before too long. its mod time.. tuner is on the mind..

suggestions pleaaaaaaaaaase!

HMUSN · January 2nd, 2008, 10:37 PM

SCT imo

mjkids · January 2nd, 2008, 11:11 PM

sct, i used the xcal 2

Onemanzu · January 2nd, 2008, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Black02GT

SCT or Sniper

Fixt

Find out what your local shops use, that way if you ever get it professionally tuned or dyno'd you have a flash device that there system is compatible with...

and if they use Diablo find another tuner

kennyGT · January 2nd, 2008, 11:41 PM

stay away from sniper i agree on the rest of his comment tho

Doc8224 · January 3rd, 2008, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by kennyGT

stay away from sniper i agree on the rest of his comment tho

Why? Its a great tuner. Great adjustability and easy to understand end user functions. SCT is good too but I would get the xcal 3. Same stuff as the 2 plus some. Diablo is just fine.

Onemanzu · January 3rd, 2008, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by kennyGT

stay away from sniper i agree on the rest of his comment tho

you want to back up your claim?

SWEET2KSTANG · January 3rd, 2008, 03:06 AM

i have a diablo and like it, i recommend it. but it is important to use what your tuner is using. cant go wrong with any of them really. all are reputable, and are recommended.

Black02GT · January 3rd, 2008, 06:22 AM

locals use sct

GTsetGO · January 3rd, 2008, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by Black02GT

locals use sct

then get the SCT. just makes it easier on everyone

hotshot · January 3rd, 2008, 06:35 AM

I have an sct 4 bank because thats what my favorate shop (dez racing) uses and since he was burning it I figured it would be best.I don't have much feedback because the shop burned it and I havn't had to touch it at all.

04GTAMPA · January 3rd, 2008, 07:43 AM

Sniper is too new and still have a lot to fix/correct within their own paramaters, still have some weak zones. Same with the Xcal3. Don't be the guinea pig for either one. Either Xcal2 or Diablo.

2002BLGT · January 3rd, 2008, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by 04GTAMPA

Sniper is too new and still have a lot to fix/correct within their own paramaters, still have some weak zones. Same with the Xcal3. Don't be the guinea pig for either one. Either Xcal2 or Diablo.

I can assure you there are no WEAK ZONES with Snipers Software .......the datalogging still is being worked on for the 05-up GTs but everything else is fine I assure you ...

cliffyk · January 3rd, 2008, 09:29 AM

Sniper seems to have gotten their act together with version 15.x of the interface firmware (at least it works reliably without locking up, and the data logging works too). I also picked up another 6 HP peak and 5-20 HP in the 3500 to 4800 rpm range using a tweaked version of their 93 octane/X-pipe/catback basic tune (versus a tweaked Granatelli Fuego 93 octane tune).

This said however I would only recommend the Sniper SF package to those who are willing to participate in the evolution of a products that has a lot of promise, some of which is as yet unfulfilled.

For example, the Special Forces tuning software has no provision for documenting the selected timing or fuel modifiers. You must do this manually, create and Excel worksheet, or whatever--I.e. reloading a saved tune's ".txt" file provides NO indication of what timing and fuel settings were used to create that tune, so you need to keep a log of tune filenames vs. settings to keep things straight.

This is further complicated by an artificial 15-character filename limitation imposed by their "save file" dialog (I suspect driven by filename size limitations of the interface).

The Recon software also has great "as yet unrealised" potential, however it suffers from the lack of any persistence of user configuration and a few PID data presentation issues--a new version has been promised "real soon now".

Sniper's support is great, they are readily available (M-F, 9-6) and via telephone and in person have always made me feel as though my problem truly was their problem. However when your PCM is trashed on a Friday night due to a firmware error and you find yourself walking for the weekend this is of little consolation--I still will not flash my tune other than M-F 9-6.

Another good thing is that the Sniper community is active and supportive, and also quite zealous (I'm certain I will have riled the faithful with what I've said here).

I'm going to stick with Sniper's system because there is great potential, however all said and done if I had it to do over again I would have gone with SCT.

Trick Tuners · January 3rd, 2008, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by 04GTAMPA

Sniper is too new and still have a lot to fix/correct within their own paramaters, still have some weak zones. Same with the Xcal3. Don't be the guinea pig for either one. Either Xcal2 or Diablo.

+1 I dont think the Xcal3 is really ready yet.

KingChronic · January 3rd, 2008, 11:54 AM

SCT > everything else.

medic_chris85 · January 3rd, 2008, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by KingChronic

SCT > everything else.

I hope so... I bought one.

KingChronic · January 3rd, 2008, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by medic_chris85

I hope so... I bought one.

arent you on the hide, and arfcom?

medic_chris85 · January 3rd, 2008, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by KingChronic

arent you on the hide, and arfcom?

I don't know what you are talking about so I am going to have to go with no lol.

EDIT: Ok AR15.com, but still no.

KingChronic · January 3rd, 2008, 12:07 PM

snipershide.com, and ar15.com. theres a guy on each of those that posts as medic chris.

January 2nd, 2008, 10:36 PM	#1
Black02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1--~--1 of 2513 8.8 1/8 mile time Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alcoa/Knoxville, Tn Posts: 1,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	Tuner SCT or DIABLO or any others? i want a tuner, just got a raise.. and income tax is coming up before too long. its mod time.. tuner is on the mind.. suggestions pleaaaaaaaaaase! __________________ Originally Posted by HMUSN it's like racing a mach 1 .. not untouchable but still gonna lose plain and simple no matter how you roll the dice. SaleenWolf720: need horsepower?? no, you just need bald tires, then you'll really feel the power

January 2nd, 2008, 10:37 PM	#2
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	SCT imo __________________

January 2nd, 2008, 11:11 PM	#3
mjkids Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ct Posts: 845 iTrader: 0 reviews	sct, i used the xcal 2 __________________ 2000 ford mustang gt convertible 2004 ford lightning truck,,,,,sold 2001 ford mustang/cobra,,,,sold 2008 ford f-350 4x4 truck 1989 ford notch back 5.0 2006 custom build bobber

January 2nd, 2008, 11:41 PM	#5
kennyGT Enthusiast 2001 mustang GT 12.67@110.34 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Davenport, Florida Posts: 938 iTrader: 0 reviews	stay away from sniper i agree on the rest of his comment tho __________________ 88 LX automatic-non stroked 302 with iron heads 01 GT manual-h-pipe bullets dumped-125shot 97 GT automatic-SOLD

January 3rd, 2008, 03:06 AM	#8
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,540 iTrader: 8 reviews	i have a diablo and like it, i recommend it. but it is important to use what your tuner is using. cant go wrong with any of them really. all are reputable, and are recommended. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

January 3rd, 2008, 06:22 AM	#9
Black02GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1--~--1 of 2513 8.8 1/8 mile time Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alcoa/Knoxville, Tn Posts: 1,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	locals use sct __________________ Originally Posted by HMUSN it's like racing a mach 1 .. not untouchable but still gonna lose plain and simple no matter how you roll the dice. SaleenWolf720: need horsepower?? no, you just need bald tires, then you'll really feel the power

January 3rd, 2008, 06:35 AM	#11
hotshot Regular 2002 mustang GT 13.2 @104mph Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: R.I. Posts: 168 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have an sct 4 bank because thats what my favorate shop (dez racing) uses and since he was burning it I figured it would be best.I don't have much feedback because the shop burned it and I havn't had to touch it at all. __________________ 02 GT. 04 Z1000 (hooligan machine) 04 gsxr 600 98 GTP

January 3rd, 2008, 07:43 AM	#12
04GTAMPA Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang SVT Cobra Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 2,742 iTrader: 1 reviews	Sniper is too new and still have a lot to fix/correct within their own paramaters, still have some weak zones. Same with the Xcal3. Don't be the guinea pig for either one. Either Xcal2 or Diablo. __________________ Slow, really slow Cobra. Wanna see? MM Cobra Club Member #81 "TAMPA BAY AREA CREW"

January 3rd, 2008, 09:29 AM	#14
cliffyk Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Saint Augustine, FL Posts: 1,808 iTrader: 1 reviews	Sniper seems to have gotten their act together with version 15.x of the interface firmware (at least it works reliably without locking up, and the data logging works too). I also picked up another 6 HP peak and 5-20 HP in the 3500 to 4800 rpm range using a tweaked version of their 93 octane/X-pipe/catback basic tune (versus a tweaked Granatelli Fuego 93 octane tune). This said however I would only recommend the Sniper SF package to those who are willing to participate in the evolution of a products that has a lot of promise, some of which is as yet unfulfilled. For example, the Special Forces tuning software has no provision for documenting the selected timing or fuel modifiers. You must do this manually, create and Excel worksheet, or whatever--I.e. reloading a saved tune's ".txt" file provides NO indication of what timing and fuel settings were used to create that tune, so you need to keep a log of tune filenames vs. settings to keep things straight. This is further complicated by an artificial 15-character filename limitation imposed by their "save file" dialog (I suspect driven by filename size limitations of the interface). The Recon software also has great "as yet unrealised" potential, however it suffers from the lack of any persistence of user configuration and a few PID data presentation issues--a new version has been promised "real soon now". Sniper's support is great, they are readily available (M-F, 9-6) and via telephone and in person have always made me feel as though my problem truly was their problem. However when your PCM is trashed on a Friday night due to a firmware error and you find yourself walking for the weekend this is of little consolation--I still will not flash my tune other than M-F 9-6. Another good thing is that the Sniper community is active and supportive, and also quite zealous (I'm certain I will have riled the faithful with what I've said here). I'm going to stick with Sniper's system because there is great potential, however all said and done if I had it to do over again I would have gone with SCT. __________________ -cliff knight- My Mustang 2003 GT, UPR X, 24lb/h injectors, Magnaflow, 180° stat, PP 70mm TB & plenum, DF Commando, Steeda UDPs, Ralco RZ_flywheel, RAM HDX clutch, WX EFX COPs 3.73s, 262 rwHP/305 lb-ft. Flex-fuel: burns gas and rubber...

January 3rd, 2008, 11:54 AM	#16
KingChronic Gun Whore 04 Whipple Cobra 10.61@129.96 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 2,438 iTrader: 0 reviews	SCT > everything else. __________________ Modded Mustangs Make-A-Wish for Bubba "BWAL09" [url]http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/clubhouse/112652-hey-guys-mm-needs-unite-bubba.html[/url] [QUOTE=Drgnracin72;1870015]please do this country a favor and go play tag football with an oncoming car[/QUOTE]

January 3rd, 2008, 12:07 PM	#20
KingChronic Gun Whore 04 Whipple Cobra 10.61@129.96 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 2,438 iTrader: 0 reviews	snipershide.com, and ar15.com. theres a guy on each of those that posts as medic chris. __________________ Modded Mustangs Make-A-Wish for Bubba "BWAL09" [url]http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/clubhouse/112652-hey-guys-mm-needs-unite-bubba.html[/url] [QUOTE=Drgnracin72;1870015]please do this country a favor and go play tag football with an oncoming car[/QUOTE]

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