chip ?

finaly03vert · January 12th, 2008, 03:46 PM

so i have searched all over the net, and this sight. But cant find what i am looking for. i want a chip that will allow me to switch between 2+ tunes, one for no2 and one for NA. i cant find one that will let me use more than 150 shot though?... i have a pda if i need, or can use that . Or i have a laptop to program but i cant find what i need but i do want to switch on the fly

00vabchgt · January 12th, 2008, 04:48 PM

sounds like what you want is this
and this

finaly03vert · January 13th, 2008, 12:46 AM

no i cant use that because it says it will only go up to 100 shot i was going to buy it but i cant find any one who can tell me how to tune it for a 150 shot

finaly03vert · January 13th, 2008, 12:50 AM

maybe i am reading it wrong though

00vabchgt · January 13th, 2008, 09:55 AM

you should still be able to get it and take it to an SCT tuner in your area and have them write you a tune for a 150 shot of spray. the way i read it, AM can write you a tune, but only up to 100hp...

Doc8224 · January 13th, 2008, 10:06 AM

You just can't get a sight unseen tune for more than a 100 shot. It is to cover their asses. The eliminator chip is what I ordered. If you are gonna run a 150 shot you will have to go to the dyno to get them to do it. Or you can just run 2 stage colder plugs and see if that gets you in the range you want. their mail order 100 shot will most likely be safe enough just to run 2 stage colder plugs and be good. But I wouldn't bet my motor on it.

finaly03vert · January 13th, 2008, 11:10 AM

ok cool ill call them before i order it

Trick Tuners · January 13th, 2008, 12:00 PM

Yeah, 150 is a big shot and is best tuned on the dyno. Is the fuel system up to the task, or did you add a small nitrous fuel cell for a wet shot?

finaly03vert · January 13th, 2008, 06:34 PM

i have a wet shot kit

Trick Tuners · January 13th, 2008, 08:01 PM

Running a big wet shot on a returnless fuel system is a BAD idea unless you have a dedicated nitrous fuel system. No decent tuner will attempt to tune it. There will be a huge lean spike as the nitrous hits and sucks the fuel rail dry before the fuel pump can catch up. Wet kits work much better on return style cars, or even better yet with a dedicated fuel cell.

Doc8224 · January 13th, 2008, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Jgorm

Running a big wet shot on a returnless fuel system is a BAD idea unless you have a dedicated nitrous fuel system. No decent tuner will attempt to tune it. There will be a huge lean spike as the nitrous hits and sucks the fuel rail dry before the fuel pump can catch up. Wet kits work much better on return style cars, or even better yet with a dedicated fuel cell.

That is partly true. The key is to know your fuel pump load under wot, and keep an eye on the AFR. If you are gonna run a big shot, think about tapping the fuel line before the pressure regulator and putting a independent regulated line to the fuel solenoid. People run 150 shots on stock rails with the nitrous tapped of the schrader valve all the time. you just need to keep an eye on the AFR. Running a 150 shot and doing some bolt ons you are gonna need a pump before you know it so just plan on that.

Trick Tuners · January 13th, 2008, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Doc8224

think about tapping the fuel line before the pressure regulator and putting a independent regulated line to the fuel solenoid.

The problem is returnless cars have no regulator and its all controlled by a feedback loop between the FRPS and the pump. It does not react quick enough for the initial hit and they get "confused" when you suck out an extra 20-30% without the ECU expecting it. If you tap off the fuel rail on a return style car its no big deal because the regulator can add fuel nearly instantly and the fuel pump does not change its operation at all.

Doc8224 · January 13th, 2008, 10:46 PM

Yea we have a regulator. its right before the fuel rail.

January 12th, 2008, 03:46 PM	#1
finaly03vert Regular 03 gt vert lights cant time it Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lincoln NE Posts: 187	chip ? so i have searched all over the net, and this sight. But cant find what i am looking for. i want a chip that will allow me to switch between 2+ tunes, one for no2 and one for NA. i cant find one that will let me use more than 150 shot though?... i have a pda if i need, or can use that . Or i have a laptop to program but i cant find what i need but i do want to switch on the fly __________________ NX EFI plate 250 jetcustom tune Eibach Pro-Kit Magnaflow cat back high flow cats, 3:55s, ported and polished heads, comp cams, forged pistons/ rods Curently building up 03 mach block w stage 3 port job. look for twins and more n2o

January 12th, 2008, 04:48 PM	#2
00vabchgt MM Fanatic 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 3,951	sounds like what you want is this and this __________________ Submariners Do It Deeper

January 13th, 2008, 12:46 AM	#3
finaly03vert Regular 03 gt vert lights cant time it Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lincoln NE Posts: 187	no i cant use that because it says it will only go up to 100 shot i was going to buy it but i cant find any one who can tell me how to tune it for a 150 shot __________________ NX EFI plate 250 jetcustom tune Eibach Pro-Kit Magnaflow cat back high flow cats, 3:55s, ported and polished heads, comp cams, forged pistons/ rods Curently building up 03 mach block w stage 3 port job. look for twins and more n2o

January 13th, 2008, 12:50 AM	#4
finaly03vert Regular 03 gt vert lights cant time it Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lincoln NE Posts: 187	maybe i am reading it wrong though __________________ NX EFI plate 250 jetcustom tune Eibach Pro-Kit Magnaflow cat back high flow cats, 3:55s, ported and polished heads, comp cams, forged pistons/ rods Curently building up 03 mach block w stage 3 port job. look for twins and more n2o

January 13th, 2008, 09:55 AM	#5
00vabchgt MM Fanatic 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 3,951	you should still be able to get it and take it to an SCT tuner in your area and have them write you a tune for a 150 shot of spray. the way i read it, AM can write you a tune, but only up to 100hp... __________________ Submariners Do It Deeper

January 13th, 2008, 10:06 AM	#6
Doc8224 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: N.W. Arkansas Posts: 2,384	You just can't get a sight unseen tune for more than a 100 shot. It is to cover their asses. The eliminator chip is what I ordered. If you are gonna run a 150 shot you will have to go to the dyno to get them to do it. Or you can just run 2 stage colder plugs and see if that gets you in the range you want. their mail order 100 shot will most likely be safe enough just to run 2 stage colder plugs and be good. But I wouldn't bet my motor on it. __________________ *Under Construction* *Project N/A 4V Under Way* *Rep is always welcome*

January 13th, 2008, 11:10 AM	#7
finaly03vert Regular 03 gt vert lights cant time it Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lincoln NE Posts: 187	ok cool ill call them before i order it __________________ NX EFI plate 250 jetcustom tune Eibach Pro-Kit Magnaflow cat back high flow cats, 3:55s, ported and polished heads, comp cams, forged pistons/ rods Curently building up 03 mach block w stage 3 port job. look for twins and more n2o

January 13th, 2008, 12:00 PM	#8
Trick Tuners Authorized Vendor KB'd GT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 827	Yeah, 150 is a big shot and is best tuned on the dyno. Is the fuel system up to the task, or did you add a small nitrous fuel cell for a wet shot? __________________ SCT Custom Tuning, JLT intakes, Aeroforce Interceptor OBDII gauges and PLX wideband products @ Trick Tuners email joe@tricktuners.com PM for super MM member deals!

January 13th, 2008, 06:34 PM	#9
finaly03vert Regular 03 gt vert lights cant time it Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lincoln NE Posts: 187	i have a wet shot kit __________________ NX EFI plate 250 jetcustom tune Eibach Pro-Kit Magnaflow cat back high flow cats, 3:55s, ported and polished heads, comp cams, forged pistons/ rods Curently building up 03 mach block w stage 3 port job. look for twins and more n2o

January 13th, 2008, 08:01 PM	#10
Trick Tuners Authorized Vendor KB'd GT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 827	Running a big wet shot on a returnless fuel system is a BAD idea unless you have a dedicated nitrous fuel system. No decent tuner will attempt to tune it. There will be a huge lean spike as the nitrous hits and sucks the fuel rail dry before the fuel pump can catch up. Wet kits work much better on return style cars, or even better yet with a dedicated fuel cell. __________________ SCT Custom Tuning, JLT intakes, Aeroforce Interceptor OBDII gauges and PLX wideband products @ Trick Tuners email joe@tricktuners.com PM for super MM member deals!

January 13th, 2008, 10:46 PM	#13
Doc8224 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mach 1 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: N.W. Arkansas Posts: 2,384	Yea we have a regulator. its right before the fuel rail. __________________ *Under Construction* *Project N/A 4V Under Way* *Rep is always welcome*

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