procharger vs vortech

20gtvert03 · February 18th, 2008, 03:58 PM

what better procharger with intercooler or vortech with aftercooler im alittle scepticle about the aftercooler deal but which is better? And is a interooler or afterooler really nesecary for a street application

mustangjl · February 18th, 2008, 04:08 PM

not necessary but you see more hp

supercharged03gt · February 18th, 2008, 04:13 PM

Well I have a vortech and love it. it is non intercooled but i plan on getting one because it gets really hot in TN in the summer. Never driven it in hotter weather than 75 yet so I dont konw how it will react to heat yet. I think the main difference in the two is the oil situation. I plan on getting the intercooler TB and plenium then keep it that way for a while. Im looking to be around 450 rwhp on a stock motor. then after college build an engine.

Trick Tuners · February 18th, 2008, 04:27 PM

I'm not sure on the difference between a aftercooler and an intercooler. Both need to chill the air after the blower. An air to air intercooler is a much better option than a air to water intercooler, because there will be no heat soak. Lots of people have good luck running methanol injection instead of an intercooler on the centri style blowers. I think cooling the charge is 100% necessary, especially if you up the boost, or do sustained boost high speed runs or road racing.

MATT02GT · February 18th, 2008, 04:46 PM

I love my Procharger. Some say the air to air intercooler is more efficient at cooling

supercharged03gt · February 18th, 2008, 04:47 PM

I thought about meth but its my daily driver and I want it cool all the time and not just when i hit the switch.

MATT02GT · February 18th, 2008, 04:48 PM

Ive heard good and bad about meth. Ive heard lots of use can actually damage things

but I have seen good numbers with it

supercharged03gt · February 18th, 2008, 04:53 PM

I have three friends that have highly modded turbo DSMs (eclipses talons and evos) and they all have meth never had a problem with it. one of them just sold the kit because he is going E85

johnr2001 · February 18th, 2008, 05:06 PM

I love my vortech and think the after cooler is great myself.

banned · February 18th, 2008, 05:09 PM

you can buy mine. its brand new vortech kit - 2750 shipped and insured via paypal. v2-sq will make 575 rwhp w/ built motor. check the classifieds or pm me

dcrow · February 18th, 2008, 08:47 PM

novi 2000 with paxton intercooler,imo!!!

supercharged03gt · February 18th, 2008, 10:52 PM

what is the 650 hp fuel pump dcrow?

mustangmanic · February 18th, 2008, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by supercharged03gt

Well I have a vortech and love it. it is non intercooled but i plan on getting one because it gets really hot in TN in the summer. Never driven it in hotter weather than 75 yet so I dont konw how it will react to heat yet. I think the main difference in the two is the oil situation. I plan on getting the intercooler TB and plenium then keep it that way for a while. Im looking to be around 450 rwhp on a stock motor. then after college build an engine.

may i just add... since you're in college and all. I highly suggest not putting 450 on your motor until you can completely afford forged internals. 450 is right at the breaking point, and being in college and all (well actually i'm a senior in HS), i know money's tight.

i would stay around 400. Add controll arms and subframes and that 400 will feel like 450. JMO

dude496 · February 19th, 2008, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by mustangmanic

i would stay around 400. Add controll arms and subframes and that 400 will feel like 450. JMO

You are definatly correct on watching the numbers...dont try and get the biggest numbers you can get...besides hp #'s are just numbers, driver is more important. 450 is a number that is achievable, but not practical...get a very safe tune that will keep you around 380 or so until you get the money to forge...300+ is more than enough to have fun on the streets.

jivepepper · February 19th, 2008, 10:01 AM

Can you upgrade a procharger p1sc to a d1sc later if want for $500 after you already purchased a P1sc? Can you put the a f1 on same bracket as p1sc? I'm getting ready to buy a YSI trim in May which will support 1100 hp, and it with fit my S-trim braket. Can a P1sc make 600 hp on 4.6 2v, a s-trim can? Has the vortech had a lot of problems with bad seals and bearings. The answer is no

Buy the vortech, and a cheap AA IC setup for 400. There is no other entry level SC made for our cars that will out perform a S-trim vortech for the money.

February 18th, 2008, 03:58 PM	#1
20gtvert03 Regular 03 GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 328 iTrader: 0 reviews	procharger vs vortech what better procharger with intercooler or vortech with aftercooler im alittle scepticle about the aftercooler deal but which is better? And is a interooler or afterooler really nesecary for a street application

February 18th, 2008, 04:13 PM	#3
supercharged03gt Regular 2003, Mustang, GT ??? Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 398 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well I have a vortech and love it. it is non intercooled but i plan on getting one because it gets really hot in TN in the summer. Never driven it in hotter weather than 75 yet so I dont konw how it will react to heat yet. I think the main difference in the two is the oil situation. I plan on getting the intercooler TB and plenium then keep it that way for a while. Im looking to be around 450 rwhp on a stock motor. then after college build an engine. __________________ Mods: Vortech V-1 supercharger, BBK LT headers, BBK o/r X pipe, Flomaster cat back, 4:10 gears, Centerforce clutch, Fidneza aluminum flywheel, K-member, Eibach pro kit, MM caster camber plates, Eagle F1 tires 275 & 315.

February 18th, 2008, 04:27 PM	#4
Trick Tuners MM Fanatic KB'd GT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,467 iTrader: 3 reviews	I'm not sure on the difference between a aftercooler and an intercooler. Both need to chill the air after the blower. An air to air intercooler is a much better option than a air to water intercooler, because there will be no heat soak. Lots of people have good luck running methanol injection instead of an intercooler on the centri style blowers. I think cooling the charge is 100% necessary, especially if you up the boost, or do sustained boost high speed runs or road racing. __________________ Check out my forums for stuff on troubleshooting, tuning, etc We teamed up with Socal Performance Racing to bring dyno tuning to San Diego. Be friends with us on FB

February 18th, 2008, 04:46 PM	#5
MATT02GT The Mean Green Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colo. Springs, CO Posts: 4,164 iTrader: 1 reviews	I love my Procharger. Some say the air to air intercooler is more efficient at cooling __________________ Its not how fast you drive, but how you drive fast. 2002 Mustang GT... Just The Usual Bolt-Ons Bolt on list in Garage..

February 18th, 2008, 04:47 PM	#6
supercharged03gt Regular 2003, Mustang, GT ??? Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 398 iTrader: 0 reviews	I thought about meth but its my daily driver and I want it cool all the time and not just when i hit the switch. __________________ Mods: Vortech V-1 supercharger, BBK LT headers, BBK o/r X pipe, Flomaster cat back, 4:10 gears, Centerforce clutch, Fidneza aluminum flywheel, K-member, Eibach pro kit, MM caster camber plates, Eagle F1 tires 275 & 315.

February 18th, 2008, 04:08 PM	#2
mustangjl Regular 2002 mustang gt 13.5 @ 106 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: dawsonville Posts: 266 iTrader: 2 reviews	not necessary but you see more hp

February 18th, 2008, 04:48 PM	#7
MATT02GT The Mean Green Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colo. Springs, CO Posts: 4,164 iTrader: 1 reviews	Ive heard good and bad about meth. Ive heard lots of use can actually damage things but I have seen good numbers with it __________________ Its not how fast you drive, but how you drive fast. 2002 Mustang GT... Just The Usual Bolt-Ons Bolt on list in Garage..

February 18th, 2008, 04:53 PM	#8
supercharged03gt Regular 2003, Mustang, GT ??? Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 398 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have three friends that have highly modded turbo DSMs (eclipses talons and evos) and they all have meth never had a problem with it. one of them just sold the kit because he is going E85 __________________ Mods: Vortech V-1 supercharger, BBK LT headers, BBK o/r X pipe, Flomaster cat back, 4:10 gears, Centerforce clutch, Fidneza aluminum flywheel, K-member, Eibach pro kit, MM caster camber plates, Eagle F1 tires 275 & 315.

February 18th, 2008, 05:06 PM	#9
johnr2001 Enthusiast 2001 GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bivalve MD Posts: 575 iTrader: 1 reviews	I love my vortech and think the after cooler is great myself. __________________ 03 Mach 1 full eaton swap, 18" chrome bullitts, H&R springs, 5.0 shifter, slp2, mac catted H, FRP 4.10's, 443 RWHP/ 386 TQ

February 18th, 2008, 05:09 PM	#10
banned Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 461 iTrader: 0 reviews	you can buy mine. its brand new vortech kit - 2750 shipped and insured via paypal. v2-sq will make 575 rwhp w/ built motor. check the classifieds or pm me

February 18th, 2008, 08:47 PM	#11
dcrow Regular 2001 mustang bullitt Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: san antonio,tx Posts: 297 iTrader: 0 reviews	novi 2000 with paxton intercooler,imo!!! __________________ 2001 bullitt mmr 900 LB,stg 2 blwr cams,spec clutch,alum flywheel,novi 2000,intercooled,gt pump,80lb injectors,3:73gears,bbk ceramic shorties,bbk xpipe,bbk 65mm tb,flowmaster catback,steedatriax.eibachsprings,m&m lower control arms,ford alum ds.

February 18th, 2008, 10:52 PM	#12
supercharged03gt Regular 2003, Mustang, GT ??? Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 398 iTrader: 0 reviews	what is the 650 hp fuel pump dcrow? __________________ Mods: Vortech V-1 supercharger, BBK LT headers, BBK o/r X pipe, Flomaster cat back, 4:10 gears, Centerforce clutch, Fidneza aluminum flywheel, K-member, Eibach pro kit, MM caster camber plates, Eagle F1 tires 275 & 315.

February 19th, 2008, 10:01 AM	#15
jivepepper I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 5,025 iTrader: 1 reviews	Can you upgrade a procharger p1sc to a d1sc later if want for $500 after you already purchased a P1sc? Can you put the a f1 on same bracket as p1sc? I'm getting ready to buy a YSI trim in May which will support 1100 hp, and it with fit my S-trim braket. Can a P1sc make 600 hp on 4.6 2v, a s-trim can? Has the vortech had a lot of problems with bad seals and bearings. The answer is no Buy the vortech, and a cheap AA IC setup for 400. There is no other entry level SC made for our cars that will out perform a S-trim vortech for the money. __________________ 665/541 WHP/WTQ 4.6L SOHC 2V ON 93 OCTANE PUMP GAS. NO METH INJ., NO E85, NO RACE GAS, N2O BABY BOTTLES! TRAP=POWER: 11.01 @135, IN SUMMER HEAT, 1350' TRACK, 315/35/17 DR'S Last edited by jivepepper; February 19th, 2008 at 10:03 AM.

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