3.73's in, thank god!

Timber · March 16th, 2008, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG

are you going to 5th with the 4.10's? when i went to 4.10's, my 60 and 1/8 were slower.

Look at JayC 's tires vs yours. Hoops and slicks vs stock rims and street tires. You're either all out drag or not and what makes you happy depends on what you expect overall.

I've ridden in Adam's car with 3.73's and got a HUGE adrenaline rush. We were on the interstate so after he quit banging on it I let go of the oh-shit handles and started watching his tach and shifts. For all-around daily driver stuff with power adders I don't thing the 3.73's can be beat. Maybe at the the track, I'm not sure, but all-around it seemed like a no-compromise gear in his car.

Well, hell, face it. If Adam thought he needed 4.10's he'd have bought them.

JayC · March 18th, 2008, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG

are you going to 5th with the 4.10's? when i went to 4.10's, my 60 and 1/8 were slower.

Nope, I'm in 4th. You were only slower due to lack of traction.

SWEET2KSTANG · March 18th, 2008, 08:42 PM

lack of traction? on slicks? its always been the same for my car no matter the gear. what height of tire are you running? i had to raise my rev limiter just to get theu the traps in 4th with 4.10's. it didnt matter if i was on slicks of street tires.

B0B · March 18th, 2008, 08:45 PM

Timber, haven't seen you around in quite some time! hows it going?

JayC · March 18th, 2008, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG

lack of traction? on slicks? its always been the same for my car no matter the gear. what height of tire are you running? i had to raise my rev limiter just to get theu the traps in 4th with 4.10's. it didnt matter if i was on slicks of street tires.

No way you will run slower with 4.10's if traction is equal. The lower gear will always 60' better. My tires are 26" and they are not slicks but DOT legal tires. My rev-limiter is also raised and at 118mph I trap 6200 and have been for 4 years now.

SWEET2KSTANG · March 18th, 2008, 09:05 PM

i was shifting before i ever got to the tree, i run thru the traps at 6k-6100 consistently at 113mph. i run m/t e.t streets 26x10.5-15. to get thru the traps on nitrous i was having to raise my rev limiter and window switch settings to get me thru without bouncing limiter. one thing to take into consideraton is driveng styles too. doc could run pretty much to same times at a lower mph than i do.

DSG04GT · March 18th, 2008, 09:23 PM

Not to derail the thread but I'll probably be having my 3.73s installed tomorrow. I don't drag but I'll be taking my car FI for a DD sleeper. Do I need a 31 spline trac-lok and axles at all?

SWEET2KSTANG · March 18th, 2008, 09:59 PM

it all depends on power goals. for most people a set of upgraded axles will be more than enoung. just axle upgrade alone will set the diff set up good for 500rwhp. after that then i would recommend a 31 swap.

DSG04GT · March 18th, 2008, 10:24 PM

So I can still keep a 28 spline trac-lok that comes stock but just with stronger axles? Any recommendations?

SWEET2KSTANG · March 18th, 2008, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by DSG04GT

So I can still keep a 28 spline trac-lok that comes stock but just with stronger axles? Any recommendations?

yes the stock t-lok will hold aftermarket axles. brand is a personal preference and in how much you want to spend. i am running alloy use axles with great luck.

DSG04GT · March 18th, 2008, 10:36 PM

hmm, I may end up past 500rwhp though so the 31 spline total package is recommended correct? And your stang looks badass!

SWEET2KSTANG · March 18th, 2008, 10:40 PM

28 will hold, but 31 would be a great investment. thanks for the compliment. it has a messed up rear bumper that makes it crappy, but the saleen body kit will be going on soon.

DSG04GT · March 18th, 2008, 11:05 PM

It wouldn't be a stang without some quirk lawl. My dad and I were looking at a Paxton Novi 2000 kit over at Jegs for me, plenty of potential in that centri for the money.

SWEET2KSTANG · March 18th, 2008, 11:07 PM

yes it is, the novi has been proven. i personallyl a procharger person, but still a good investment.

DSG04GT · March 19th, 2008, 12:15 AM

Would you happen to know much about Prochargers? Like if I get a 3 core intercooled kit with a P1SC, about how much can i get out of that Procharger? The Novi is not self contained and I don't like that lol.

MustangMatt96GT · March 19th, 2008, 12:21 AM

Sweet, it could be the different trannies in the cars. JayC may have a TR3650 where you have a T-45. he could have a late build car. That would show the differnce in the Trap speeds and RPMs.

SWEET2KSTANG · March 19th, 2008, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by DSG04GT

Would you happen to know much about Prochargers? Like if I get a 3 core intercooled kit with a P1SC, about how much can i get out of that Procharger? The Novi is not self contained and I don't like that lol.

the p1sc will make good boost and power toward the 18psi mark. it is still an entry level supercharger however, if you plan on wanting more than that then the d1sc upgrade will be wise. this is where a lot of people get into the arguement on paxton vs procharger. both are good superchargers, but compare apples to apples. when looking at power adders, remember to do homework and that it mostly personal preference.

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

Sweet, it could be the different trannies in the cars. JayC may have a TR3650 where you have a T-45. he could have a late build car. That would show the differnce in the Trap speeds and RPMs.

both still have a 1:1 4th

DSG04GT · March 19th, 2008, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG

the p1sc will make good boost and power toward the 18psi mark. it is still an entry level supercharger however, if you plan on wanting more than that then the d1sc upgrade will be wise. this is where a lot of people get into the arguement on paxton vs procharger. both are good superchargers, but compare apples to apples. when looking at power adders, remember to do homework and that it mostly personal preference.

both still have a 1:1 4th

The Procharger should be good for my application, which is a killer DD. Plus I don't need to drill my oil pan. Does the P1SC make those cool woobly noises when you shift?

lol

SWEET2KSTANG · March 19th, 2008, 02:32 AM

thats the bypass valve and yes it does

. i dont know how much you plan on pushing thru it, but procharger will make some nice #'s.

DSG04GT · March 19th, 2008, 03:15 PM

I'll probably go with around 415-420rwhp and keep the engine stock. 10 psi. I've got just about a full bolt-on Mustang GT with a Sniper tune now. Took my car into Lujan Motorsports today to get the 3.73 and aluminum driveshaft installed.

All I need is a mid-pipe and it'll be full bolt-on I think. Here is what parts I have currently:

K&N RAI
75mm throttle body (waiting for the gasket)
C&L ported plenum
Steeda tri-ax
3.73 gears
Aluminum driveshaft
Sniper tuned for 87 octane

March 18th, 2008, 08:42 PM	#23
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 9,501	lack of traction? on slicks? its always been the same for my car no matter the gear. what height of tire are you running? i had to raise my rev limiter just to get theu the traps in 4th with 4.10's. it didnt matter if i was on slicks of street tires. __________________ right now, she is a jackstand warrior if the car was a horse, i would shoot it!!! project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

March 18th, 2008, 09:05 PM	#26
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 9,501	i was shifting before i ever got to the tree, i run thru the traps at 6k-6100 consistently at 113mph. i run m/t e.t streets 26x10.5-15. to get thru the traps on nitrous i was having to raise my rev limiter and window switch settings to get me thru without bouncing limiter. one thing to take into consideraton is driveng styles too. doc could run pretty much to same times at a lower mph than i do. __________________ right now, she is a jackstand warrior if the car was a horse, i would shoot it!!! project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

March 18th, 2008, 09:59 PM	#28
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 9,501	it all depends on power goals. for most people a set of upgraded axles will be more than enoung. just axle upgrade alone will set the diff set up good for 500rwhp. after that then i would recommend a 31 swap. __________________ right now, she is a jackstand warrior if the car was a horse, i would shoot it!!! project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

March 18th, 2008, 10:40 PM	#32
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 9,501	28 will hold, but 31 would be a great investment. thanks for the compliment. it has a messed up rear bumper that makes it crappy, but the saleen body kit will be going on soon. __________________ right now, she is a jackstand warrior if the car was a horse, i would shoot it!!! project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

March 18th, 2008, 11:07 PM	#34
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 9,501	yes it is, the novi has been proven. i personallyl a procharger person, but still a good investment. __________________ right now, she is a jackstand warrior if the car was a horse, i would shoot it!!! project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

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March 18th, 2008, 09:23 PM	#27
DSG04GT Regular 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 353	Not to derail the thread but I'll probably be having my 3.73s installed tomorrow. I don't drag but I'll be taking my car FI for a DD sleeper. Do I need a 31 spline trac-lok and axles at all?

March 18th, 2008, 10:24 PM	#29
DSG04GT Regular 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 353	So I can still keep a 28 spline trac-lok that comes stock but just with stronger axles? Any recommendations?

March 18th, 2008, 10:36 PM	#31
DSG04GT Regular 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 353	hmm, I may end up past 500rwhp though so the 31 spline total package is recommended correct? And your stang looks badass!

March 18th, 2008, 11:05 PM	#33
DSG04GT Regular 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 353	It wouldn't be a stang without some quirk lawl. My dad and I were looking at a Paxton Novi 2000 kit over at Jegs for me, plenty of potential in that centri for the money.

March 19th, 2008, 12:15 AM	#35
DSG04GT Regular 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 353	Would you happen to know much about Prochargers? Like if I get a 3 core intercooled kit with a P1SC, about how much can i get out of that Procharger? The Novi is not self contained and I don't like that lol.

March 19th, 2008, 12:21 AM	#36
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 8,269	Sweet, it could be the different trannies in the cars. JayC may have a TR3650 where you have a T-45. he could have a late build car. That would show the differnce in the Trap speeds and RPMs. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions "Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong."

March 19th, 2008, 02:32 AM	#39
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 9,501	thats the bypass valve and yes it does. i dont know how much you plan on pushing thru it, but procharger will make some nice #'s. __________________ right now, she is a jackstand warrior if the car was a horse, i would shoot it!!! project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

March 19th, 2008, 03:15 PM	#40
DSG04GT Regular 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 353	I'll probably go with around 415-420rwhp and keep the engine stock. 10 psi. I've got just about a full bolt-on Mustang GT with a Sniper tune now. Took my car into Lujan Motorsports today to get the 3.73 and aluminum driveshaft installed. All I need is a mid-pipe and it'll be full bolt-on I think. Here is what parts I have currently: K&N RAI 75mm throttle body (waiting for the gasket) C&L ported plenum Steeda tri-ax 3.73 gears Aluminum driveshaft Sniper tuned for 87 octane Last edited by DSG04GT : March 19th, 2008 at 03:29 PM.

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