2v into 4 valve?

SteviGX · March 20th, 2008, 12:07 PM

You can't just swap heads can you?

banned · March 20th, 2008, 12:09 PM

yes you can, but you need everything that goes with it

SteviGX · March 20th, 2008, 12:12 PM

really? So bottom end will stay the same i would just have to change everything top end to a 4v set-up?

basically what i want to know is, if i ended up changing would it make more power than the 2v? If i did all the same mods.

don't flame, i know i'm ignorant about internal motor, i'm trying getting there

futureMACH1racer · March 20th, 2008, 12:21 PM

You would be much better off buying the drivetrain out of a 03/04 Cobra. IMHO

SteviGX · March 20th, 2008, 12:23 PM

yeah, i was just being curious.

I'm staying N/A maybe juice way down the road and was just curious.

Alright, thread can die know, i got the answer, lol

Green Hornet · March 20th, 2008, 12:26 PM

if your staying n/a, maybe look for a 96-98 motor, they will be a lot cheeper, and you can usually get them with the computer, and everything.

futureMACH1racer · March 20th, 2008, 12:27 PM

Buy a motor out of a an 99/01 Cobra or 03/04 Mach 1 then.

SteviGX · March 20th, 2008, 12:30 PM

thought about that, i'll see what i end up doing. Thanks for the help guys.

MM FTMFW!

ArmyChargedGT · March 20th, 2008, 12:30 PM

where abouts can u find used short blocks from cobras?

StangAddiction · March 20th, 2008, 12:30 PM

There are so many 4v swap threads around here its not even funny..and asking the exact same question.. No disrespect whatsoever, but search next time.. It's been answered..

And finding a used shortblock isn't so easy...Its not the shortblock that's the problem though..It's the pistons..You need pistons that are 4v-specific with a lesser dish unless you want a low compression ratio. Even then, im not 100% sure the 2v pistons will clear the valves...

It REALLY is a lot easier to just buy the whole motor..Better yet, it'll be even easier to just sell the car and buy a cobra or mach 1... Maybe even cheaper.. 4v motors aint cheap.

ArmyChargedGT · March 20th, 2008, 12:31 PM

I was more or less looking for a site. but thanks

SteviGX · March 20th, 2008, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by StangAddiction

There are so many 4v swap threads around here its not even funny..and asking the exact same question.. No disrespect whatsoever, but search next time.. It's been answered..

honestly. i forgot to search. not even going to say i did. lol

i will next time, i promise

banned · March 20th, 2008, 12:33 PM

the 03/04 cobra stuff is way over priced and not even that good

StangAddiction · March 20th, 2008, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by SteviGX

honestly. i forgot to search. not even going to say i did. lol

i will next time, i promise

There's actually a thread that explains in detail the 4v swap..I'll see if i can find it..

sgrcltpunk · March 20th, 2008, 12:45 PM

you pretty much need heads cams cause they are dohc of course you have to do all the timing stuff and a intake manifold

SteviGX · March 20th, 2008, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by sgrcltpunk

you pretty much need heads cams cause they are dohc of course you have to do all the timing stuff and a intake manifold

i'm not talking abotu chaning blocks...just heads, so basically a 4v SOHC

StangAddiction · March 20th, 2008, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by SteviGX

i'm not talking abotu chaning blocks...just heads, so basically a 4v SOHC

No such thing...the 4v is a DOHC head... DOHC stands for dual overhead cams...That means theres 1 cam for the intake valves and 1 for the exhuast valves...The 2v head uses 1 cam to control both the intake and exhuast valves..

Green Hornet · March 20th, 2008, 12:53 PM

i know yo will need thew timming cover, alt, intake, all the timming chanes, cams, heads, intake, t.b., computer, wiring harness, cobra exhaust mann or headers, chnge the coolant system, your pcv system and so on... thats why its allways better go get a 4V long block, or get everything from a wrecked 4V car...lincoln, ford, merc.....

StangAddiction · March 20th, 2008, 12:58 PM

2v to 4v swap

Heres the thread...

SteviGX · March 20th, 2008, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by StangAddiction

No such thing...the 4v is a DOHC head... DOHC stands for dual overhead cams...That means theres 1 cam for the intake valves and 1 for the exhuast valves...The 2v head uses 1 cam to control both the intake and exhuast valves..

i know what DOHC means. i'm not a jackass. but thanks for stating the obvious

March 20th, 2008, 12:07 PM	#1
SteviGX Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.538@101.72 before cams&slicks&gears Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,544 iTrader: 2 reviews	2v into 4 valve? You can't just swap heads can you? __________________ Mineral Gray Club Member #2 Just your average 22 year old dumbass If you didn't build your car, and your bragging about it, STFU

March 20th, 2008, 12:09 PM	#2
banned Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 461 iTrader: 0 reviews	yes you can, but you need everything that goes with it __________________ Considering selling my car to fund my race car: take a look and tell me what you think. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post1041280

March 20th, 2008, 12:12 PM	#3
SteviGX Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.538@101.72 before cams&slicks&gears Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,544 iTrader: 2 reviews	really? So bottom end will stay the same i would just have to change everything top end to a 4v set-up? basically what i want to know is, if i ended up changing would it make more power than the 2v? If i did all the same mods. don't flame, i know i'm ignorant about internal motor, i'm trying getting there __________________ Mineral Gray Club Member #2 Just your average 22 year old dumbass If you didn't build your car, and your bragging about it, STFU

March 20th, 2008, 12:21 PM	#4
futureMACH1racer I.D.G.A.F. 2009 John Deere 9670 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 11,347 iTrader: 0 reviews	You would be much better off buying the drivetrain out of a 03/04 Cobra. IMHO __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

March 20th, 2008, 12:23 PM	#5
SteviGX Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.538@101.72 before cams&slicks&gears Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,544 iTrader: 2 reviews	yeah, i was just being curious. I'm staying N/A maybe juice way down the road and was just curious. Alright, thread can die know, i got the answer, lol __________________ Mineral Gray Club Member #2 Just your average 22 year old dumbass If you didn't build your car, and your bragging about it, STFU

March 20th, 2008, 12:26 PM	#6
Green Hornet Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Algonquin IL Posts: 205 iTrader: 1 reviews	if your staying n/a, maybe look for a 96-98 motor, they will be a lot cheeper, and you can usually get them with the computer, and everything. __________________ SPECIAL THANKS TO: www.afterburninc.com www.dynotunemp.com http://www.per-race-engines.com [/COLOR][/URL]

March 20th, 2008, 12:27 PM	#7
futureMACH1racer I.D.G.A.F. 2009 John Deere 9670 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United States of America Posts: 11,347 iTrader: 0 reviews	Buy a motor out of a an 99/01 Cobra or 03/04 Mach 1 then. __________________ RIP Travis Bilings 5/6/1982-7/5/2011 Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

March 20th, 2008, 12:30 PM	#8
SteviGX Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.538@101.72 before cams&slicks&gears Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,544 iTrader: 2 reviews	thought about that, i'll see what i end up doing. Thanks for the help guys. MM FTMFW! __________________ Mineral Gray Club Member #2 Just your average 22 year old dumbass If you didn't build your car, and your bragging about it, STFU

March 20th, 2008, 12:30 PM	#9
ArmyChargedGT Regular 1999 GT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Columbus GA Posts: 123 iTrader: 0 reviews	where abouts can u find used short blocks from cobras? __________________ P1SC Procharged:: 3:73:iablo MAFia:: BBK Long Tubes:: Mac exhaust::80mm Acufab throttle body::42 lb injectors ..... 416 whp and 423 wtq www.myspace.com/theoneandonlygoose

March 20th, 2008, 12:30 PM	#10
StangAddiction Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 986 iTrader: 0 reviews	There are so many 4v swap threads around here its not even funny..and asking the exact same question.. No disrespect whatsoever, but search next time.. It's been answered.. And finding a used shortblock isn't so easy...Its not the shortblock that's the problem though..It's the pistons..You need pistons that are 4v-specific with a lesser dish unless you want a low compression ratio. Even then, im not 100% sure the 2v pistons will clear the valves... It REALLY is a lot easier to just buy the whole motor..Better yet, it'll be even easier to just sell the car and buy a cobra or mach 1... Maybe even cheaper.. 4v motors aint cheap. Last edited by StangAddiction; March 20th, 2008 at 12:35 PM.

March 20th, 2008, 12:31 PM	#11
ArmyChargedGT Regular 1999 GT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Columbus GA Posts: 123 iTrader: 0 reviews	I was more or less looking for a site. but thanks __________________ P1SC Procharged:: 3:73:iablo MAFia:: BBK Long Tubes:: Mac exhaust::80mm Acufab throttle body::42 lb injectors ..... 416 whp and 423 wtq www.myspace.com/theoneandonlygoose

March 20th, 2008, 12:33 PM	#13
banned Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 461 iTrader: 0 reviews	the 03/04 cobra stuff is way over priced and not even that good __________________ Considering selling my car to fund my race car: take a look and tell me what you think. http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ml#post1041280

March 20th, 2008, 12:45 PM	#15
sgrcltpunk amateur adult film star 1999 gt to infinity and beyond Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: newport news,va Posts: 1,051 iTrader: 0 reviews	you pretty much need heads cams cause they are dohc of course you have to do all the timing stuff and a intake manifold __________________ performance headlight fluid, 6 ball muffler bearings, and dual flux capacitors

March 20th, 2008, 12:53 PM	#18
Green Hornet Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Algonquin IL Posts: 205 iTrader: 1 reviews	i know yo will need thew timming cover, alt, intake, all the timming chanes, cams, heads, intake, t.b., computer, wiring harness, cobra exhaust mann or headers, chnge the coolant system, your pcv system and so on... thats why its allways better go get a 4V long block, or get everything from a wrecked 4V car...lincoln, ford, merc..... __________________ SPECIAL THANKS TO: www.afterburninc.com www.dynotunemp.com http://www.per-race-engines.com [/COLOR][/URL]

March 20th, 2008, 12:58 PM	#19
StangAddiction Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 986 iTrader: 0 reviews	2v to 4v swap Heres the thread...

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