What Cams And How Much Money To Have Installed

BYEBYE2U · March 30th, 2008, 10:53 PM

Hey guys,how many of you on here have cams installed in your 4.6 2 valve? what kind is best to run in a AOD car and how much did it cost to have them installed?and do they improve the power pretty good?my car has headers,X-pipe,CAI,throttle body right now.i plan on doing a gear and some kind of tune here soon before mustang week at Myrtle Beach.and i'm going to do a head install when i get back maybe.but i wanted to do the cams now for the sound.i know in the old 5.0 motors doing a cam install was worhtless without heads and intake ETC.thats fine i'm not worried about the raw performance right now i just want it to sound good and all.what are good cams for these motors? i hear the COMP 270's are good but can they be ran with an AODE tranny? thanks guys for all your input

thatonekidw/theGT · March 31st, 2008, 07:27 PM

ditto Im lookin at cams too. I got 4.10 o.r x magnaflow catbacks king cobra clutch all that jazz.

Ryan Paymaster · March 31st, 2008, 08:48 PM

The mechanic and tuner (same guy) I like and go to quoted me @ 20 hours to replace the valve seals. He charges $85.00 an hour, so that would come out to $1700.

Most of that was because he said he pulls the motor 9 times out of 10 since it makes it a hell of a lot easier to deal with.

That's $1700, sometimes it might be worth it to look at a used supercharger kit and bolting it on yourself.

BYEBYE2U · March 31st, 2008, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by Ryan Paymaster

The mechanic and tuner (same guy) I like and go to quoted me @ 20 hours to replace the valve seals. He charges $85.00 an hour, so that would come out to $1700.

Most of that was because he said he pulls the motor 9 times out of 10 since it makes it a hell of a lot easier to deal with.

That's $1700, sometimes it might be worth it to look at a used supercharger kit and bolting it on yourself.

no it can be done cheaper than that.$1700 is steep! a guy told me on another forum that he got charged $550 for labor and the shop is near me about 1 hour away.

ShapeShifter · March 31st, 2008, 09:20 PM

i went with comp262's(stage 1 N/A cams) in my auto...charged $300 to install them, and i spent another $100 on new gaskets, etc...and $150 on a new dyno tune.

TheBusher · March 31st, 2008, 09:23 PM

Not sure on price, but I would look into these
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RAGEman · March 31st, 2008, 09:24 PM

ShapeShifter, I am really like your car. What % is the tint? And what type of front bumper is that?

TheBusher · March 31st, 2008, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by RAGEman

ShapeShifter, I am really like your car. What % is the tint? And what type of front bumper is that?

looks like a 99/01 Cobra

ShapeShifter · March 31st, 2008, 09:37 PM

yea 99/01 cobra front and 20% tint on front 2 windows and 5% on rear qtr windows and rear windshield....thanks for the compliment.

CobraR · March 31st, 2008, 11:05 PM

i dunno about how big of a difference it makes with an auto but i know alot of guys, myself included like the 270s. they are a good set of cams.

If you're gonna get heads later i would say just wait to do it all in one shot. heads and cams. that way you dont have to pay twice for labor. thats what i did. i cant give an estimate on price cuz i got all mine used and installed by a friend.

dude496 · March 31st, 2008, 11:46 PM

Comp 270s seem to be the prefered route to go...you will need to run a higher stall convertor if running that cam.

20 hours for a cam install/valve upgrade???? Yeah dont go to that shop. Yes it is easier to pull the motor to do the work, but if you know what your doing you can get that motor out in 3 hours.

So $1700 labor +600 for cams = 2300...man for 3k you can get some ported polished heads with 270 cams for about that price that are already setup minus install...install is a bit of a bitch, but basic hand tools + torque wrench will be all you need to do it.

mpboy · April 1st, 2008, 12:46 AM

cams are really easy to do guys... you could save alot of money, i can give you guys a write up on how i did mine and how to get the timing dialed in

saxmanJJ · April 1st, 2008, 10:29 AM

Shapeshifter - that seems like a more than fair deal on the cam install!

How do you like the Comp 262s?

How much seat of the pants gain did you feel?

Any seat of the pants loss at lower rpm?

saxmanJJ · April 1st, 2008, 10:32 AM

Shapeshifter - that seems like a more than reasonable deal on the cam install.

How do you like the new cams vs. stock???

How noticeable is the seat of the pants difference and any loss in low end response?

Thanks.

03TropicGt · April 1st, 2008, 01:49 PM

how about the VT stage 2 cams, how are those?

whtpny · April 1st, 2008, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by RAGEman

ShapeShifter, I am really like your car.

i don't believe you, how are you like his car.. aren't you a person?

acmillr · April 1st, 2008, 02:39 PM

Keep in mind that you will need to change converters if you get very excessive with your cam profile.

Ryan Paymaster · April 1st, 2008, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by dude496

Comp 270s seem to be the prefered route to go...you will need to run a higher stall convertor if running that cam.

20 hours for a cam install/valve upgrade???? Yeah dont go to that shop. Yes it is easier to pull the motor to do the work, but if you know what your doing you can get that motor out in 3 hours.

So $1700 labor +600 for cams = 2300...man for 3k you can get some ported polished heads with 270 cams for about that price that are already setup minus install...install is a bit of a bitch, but basic hand tools + torque wrench will be all you need to do it.

I was just throwing it out there, and I did a quick look on google on other forums and some people said they were quoted over a $1000.

I just threw that number out there because it's what I was told (I don't know any better) and at least it was a number and not "a lot."

I really like the guy I deal with; but I'd love cams. Anyone have a recommendation on a shop in Northern Illinois that would install cams and do valve seals for a reasonable price?

ShapeShifter · April 1st, 2008, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by saxmanJJ

Shapeshifter - that seems like a more than fair deal on the cam install!

How do you like the Comp 262s?

How much seat of the pants gain did you feel?

Any seat of the pants loss at lower rpm?

i feel no loss in low-end torque, being that this is a stage 1 n/a cam...and i also have a 3800 stall....i can feel the power increase, somewhat...havent really punched it...i drive like a grandma,lol....but tomorrow i will be track testing it..prev. best before cams was a 13.0 @ 104 w/1.71 60'ft

Dyno #'s w/cams: 283rwhp/301rwtq

Pre-Cams, Dyno #'s: 254rwhp/278rwtq

I picked up a solid 29rwhp and 23rwtq with the addition of the cams.

mpboy · April 1st, 2008, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by acmillr

Keep in mind that you will need to change converters if you get very excessive with your cam profile.

+1 iv seen guys change out there springs, and do all this stuff to get the most radical cams they can with out changing the pistons, but have stock pi heads and stock exhaust

March 30th, 2008, 10:53 PM	#1
BYEBYE2U Regular 83 CAPRI Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LEXINGTON.N.C Posts: 96 iTrader: 0 reviews	What Cams And How Much Money To Have Installed Hey guys,how many of you on here have cams installed in your 4.6 2 valve? what kind is best to run in a AOD car and how much did it cost to have them installed?and do they improve the power pretty good?my car has headers,X-pipe,CAI,throttle body right now.i plan on doing a gear and some kind of tune here soon before mustang week at Myrtle Beach.and i'm going to do a head install when i get back maybe.but i wanted to do the cams now for the sound.i know in the old 5.0 motors doing a cam install was worhtless without heads and intake ETC.thats fine i'm not worried about the raw performance right now i just want it to sound good and all.what are good cams for these motors? i hear the COMP 270's are good but can they be ran with an AODE tranny? thanks guys for all your input __________________ 05 BUSA 99GT SOLD! 95 boosted gt

March 31st, 2008, 08:48 PM	#3
Ryan Paymaster Enthusiast 1996 Ford SVT Cobra 13.36@102 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Plainfield, IL USA Posts: 661 iTrader: 0 reviews	The mechanic and tuner (same guy) I like and go to quoted me @ 20 hours to replace the valve seals. He charges $85.00 an hour, so that would come out to $1700. Most of that was because he said he pulls the motor 9 times out of 10 since it makes it a hell of a lot easier to deal with. That's $1700, sometimes it might be worth it to look at a used supercharger kit and bolting it on yourself. Last edited by Ryan Paymaster; March 31st, 2008 at 08:53 PM.

March 31st, 2008, 09:20 PM	#5
ShapeShifter Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,354 iTrader: 0 reviews	i went with comp262's(stage 1 N/A cams) in my auto...charged $300 to install them, and i spent another $100 on new gaskets, etc...and $150 on a new dyno tune. __________________ N/A Auto 2-Valve 1.74' 60ft 12.79 @ 105.5

March 31st, 2008, 09:37 PM	#9
ShapeShifter Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,354 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea 99/01 cobra front and 20% tint on front 2 windows and 5% on rear qtr windows and rear windshield....thanks for the compliment. __________________ N/A Auto 2-Valve 1.74' 60ft 12.79 @ 105.5

April 1st, 2008, 02:39 PM	#17
acmillr MM's Mad Scientist Slow Fella Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 5,120 iTrader: 2 reviews	Keep in mind that you will need to change converters if you get very excessive with your cam profile. __________________

March 31st, 2008, 07:27 PM	#2
thatonekidw/theGT Regular 2000 GT N/A Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 74 iTrader: 0 reviews	ditto Im lookin at cams too. I got 4.10 o.r x magnaflow catbacks king cobra clutch all that jazz.

March 31st, 2008, 09:24 PM	#7
RAGEman Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT N/A Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: La Porte, Texas Posts: 805 iTrader: 0 reviews	ShapeShifter, I am really like your car. What % is the tint? And what type of front bumper is that?

March 31st, 2008, 11:46 PM	#11
dude496 Hardcore Enthusiast 04 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: somewhere Posts: 1,373 iTrader: 2 reviews	Comp 270s seem to be the prefered route to go...you will need to run a higher stall convertor if running that cam. 20 hours for a cam install/valve upgrade???? Yeah dont go to that shop. Yes it is easier to pull the motor to do the work, but if you know what your doing you can get that motor out in 3 hours. So $1700 labor +600 for cams = 2300...man for 3k you can get some ported polished heads with 270 cams for about that price that are already setup minus install...install is a bit of a bitch, but basic hand tools + torque wrench will be all you need to do it.

April 1st, 2008, 10:29 AM	#13
saxmanJJ Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 11.493@121.32 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SE PA Posts: 1,568 iTrader: 1 reviews	Shapeshifter - that seems like a more than fair deal on the cam install! How do you like the Comp 262s? How much seat of the pants gain did you feel? Any seat of the pants loss at lower rpm?

April 1st, 2008, 10:32 AM	#14
saxmanJJ Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 11.493@121.32 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SE PA Posts: 1,568 iTrader: 1 reviews	Shapeshifter - that seems like a more than reasonable deal on the cam install. How do you like the new cams vs. stock??? How noticeable is the seat of the pants difference and any loss in low end response? Thanks.

April 1st, 2008, 01:49 PM	#15
03TropicGt Enthusiast 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 551 iTrader: 0 reviews	how about the VT stage 2 cams, how are those?

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