Dumb Question.

RAGEman · March 31st, 2008, 11:41 PM

I only need one pair of 02 extensions for my header install correct? The other are long enough to reach?

Doc8224 · March 31st, 2008, 11:44 PM

Yes.

RAGEman · March 31st, 2008, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Doc8224

Yes.

Thank you.

dude496 · March 31st, 2008, 11:48 PM

nope...you just need to go to radio shack or lowes and get some of the same guage wire and a crimp set and some heat shrink...solder if you know how to do that....i'd rather pay $5 vs whatever the extensions cost.

MATT02GT · March 31st, 2008, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by dude496

nope...you just need to go to radio shack or lowes and get some of the same guage wire and a crimp set and some heat shrink...solder if you know how to do that....i'd rather pay $5 vs whatever the extensions cost.

mystang0673 · April 1st, 2008, 12:00 AM

thats the easy way to do it but they can malfunction because of the obstruction of flow of the current... thats the way i did mine but... the correct way is to buy extensions...

Doc8224 · April 1st, 2008, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by dude496

nope...you just need to go to radio shack or lowes and get some of the same guage wire and a crimp set and some heat shrink...solder if you know how to do that....i'd rather pay $5 vs whatever the extensions cost.

All that work to save $15 and all you gotta do is plug em in. I will never understand some of you.

RAGEman · April 1st, 2008, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by mystang0673

thats the easy way to do it but they can malfunction because of the obstruction of flow of the current... thats the way i did mine but... the correct way is to buy extensions...

This is correct. Although the restriction may be minimal, I would rather just purchase piece of mind.

dude496 · April 1st, 2008, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by mystang0673

thats the easy way to do it but they can malfunction because of the obstruction of flow of the current... thats the way i did mine but... the correct way is to buy extensions...

Do i really need to school you on electronics???

SWEET2KSTANG · April 1st, 2008, 12:05 AM

why go thru the hassle of cutting, soldeirng, crimping, getting to the wires and doing them, etc??? just get extensions, plug in and go.

drazga97 · April 1st, 2008, 12:09 AM

because some of us are narrow minded and often cheap at times.... but i too rather have the piece of mind

dude496 · April 1st, 2008, 12:13 AM

The extensions are one of the simplest things we can do on our cars...reminds me of how everything else goes...why not swap out the entire card versus popping in a new transistor or something.

You will get a better connection by soldering in new wires versus using an additional connector...we aren't talking rocket science here.

RAGEman · April 1st, 2008, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by RAGEman

This is correct. Although the restriction may be minimal, I would rather just purchase piece of mind.

I of course meant to say peace of mind. Shame on me.

MATT02GT · April 1st, 2008, 12:18 AM

A connector will more than likely mess up before a proper solder job. But Id suggest the extensions if your not comfortable with electrical stuff, or want the quick route.

dude496 · April 1st, 2008, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by MATT02GT

A connector will more than likely mess up before a proper solder job.

exactly. Soldering a wire is as welding is to metal....only difference is that its pretty hard to mess up a solder job....it can be sloppy to a certain extent...unless your talking higher reliability soldering...not something most would ever get into, basically NASA specs.

For those that want to have the peace of mind about an additional connector lets play a numbers game...On average a connector adds 1 dBm of loss in a cable...3 dBm equals half power...Power=voltage x current (P=IE) So basically by adding connector you are adding a 33% loss to your current configuration. Soldering gives about a .1 dbm loss. I've been doing this stuff for 10 years, like i said its not rocket science.

dude496 · April 1st, 2008, 12:37 AM

OK so i did my math a little wrong...it would be about a 15% loss...but when your down in the low amperage components like the O2 sensor...i'd rahter have as little loss as possible.

If any of you are in the Oklahoma city area, i can show you how easy this is to do.

dude496 · April 1st, 2008, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by Doc8224

All that work to save $15 and all you gotta do is plug em in. I will never understand some of you.

Its not about saving money...its about doing it right. Plain and simple when altering a stock configuration you either solder in new wiring or replace complete wiring with something that will fit. The extensions are a simple fix action for those that don't know how to do it.

MATT02GT · April 1st, 2008, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by dude496

Its not about saving money...its about doing it right. Plain and simple when altering a stock configuration

+1.... welcome to modding!

SWEET2KSTANG · April 1st, 2008, 01:54 AM

there is nothing wrong with extensions. there is not enough interference in the connections to mess up anything. the old saying of more than one way to skin a cat applies to stuff like this. i will call you stupid all day long to say that o2 extensions is the wrong way to do it. it is only one way. cuting, soldering, etc, is another way to do it.

March 31st, 2008, 11:41 PM	#1
RAGEman Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT N/A Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: La Porte, Texas Posts: 805 iTrader: 0 reviews	Dumb Question. I only need one pair of 02 extensions for my header install correct? The other are long enough to reach?

March 31st, 2008, 11:44 PM	#2
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April 1st, 2008, 12:00 AM	#6
mystang0673 MM Fanatic 6.82@100mph 1.45 60' Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,239 iTrader: 0 reviews	thats the easy way to do it but they can malfunction because of the obstruction of flow of the current... thats the way i did mine but... the correct way is to buy extensions... __________________

April 1st, 2008, 12:05 AM	#10
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	why go thru the hassle of cutting, soldeirng, crimping, getting to the wires and doing them, etc??? just get extensions, plug in and go. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

April 1st, 2008, 12:09 AM	#11
drazga97 Noob Slayer 2004 Mustang GT 13.82 @ 101.09 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,466 iTrader: 1 reviews	because some of us are narrow minded and often cheap at times.... but i too rather have the piece of mind __________________ 2003 Black Cobra 10th Anniversary 2.8 Kenne Bell Mammoth LC - Built SRA - T56 - E85 - Spray - Stock Longblock - True Forged Mach 5s 2004 Silver GT 5 speed - SOLD MM Cobra Club Member# 97

March 31st, 2008, 11:48 PM	#4
dude496 Hardcore Enthusiast 04 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: somewhere Posts: 1,373 iTrader: 2 reviews	nope...you just need to go to radio shack or lowes and get some of the same guage wire and a crimp set and some heat shrink...solder if you know how to do that....i'd rather pay $5 vs whatever the extensions cost.

April 1st, 2008, 12:13 AM	#12
dude496 Hardcore Enthusiast 04 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: somewhere Posts: 1,373 iTrader: 2 reviews	The extensions are one of the simplest things we can do on our cars...reminds me of how everything else goes...why not swap out the entire card versus popping in a new transistor or something. You will get a better connection by soldering in new wires versus using an additional connector...we aren't talking rocket science here.

April 1st, 2008, 12:18 AM	#14
MATT02GT MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colo. Springs, CO Posts: 3,694 iTrader: 0 reviews	A connector will more than likely mess up before a proper solder job. But Id suggest the extensions if your not comfortable with electrical stuff, or want the quick route. __________________ Its not how fast you drive, but how you drive fast. 2002 Mustang GT... Just The Usual Bolt-Ons Bolt on list in Garage.. Last edited by MATT02GT; April 1st, 2008 at 12:20 AM.

April 1st, 2008, 12:37 AM	#16
dude496 Hardcore Enthusiast 04 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: somewhere Posts: 1,373 iTrader: 2 reviews	OK so i did my math a little wrong...it would be about a 15% loss...but when your down in the low amperage components like the O2 sensor...i'd rahter have as little loss as possible. If any of you are in the Oklahoma city area, i can show you how easy this is to do.

April 1st, 2008, 01:54 AM	#19
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	there is nothing wrong with extensions. there is not enough interference in the connections to mess up anything. the old saying of more than one way to skin a cat applies to stuff like this. i will call you stupid all day long to say that o2 extensions is the wrong way to do it. it is only one way. cuting, soldering, etc, is another way to do it. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

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