Forged pistons???

SilverStang03 · April 28th, 2008, 12:52 AM

should i get a forged short block or go for the pistons?? my motor has 72k on it, and it seems that everyone i know around here prefers to just put in shortblocks, and not pistons. what is a reasonable price for either? i got quoted 2 grand for a fuckin short block, would a forged rotating assembly and balance be less?? and if so is there anyone around my area (MA or RI) who will do it?

NXstang · April 28th, 2008, 01:01 AM

Do a whole shortblock. The rods are powdered junk in 2v's. If the rods were good, the pistons could last to 500+HP.

Get a BUILT shortblock and never look back. its expensive but thats how the modular game goes.

Drgnracin72 · April 28th, 2008, 01:05 AM

you could build your own for a couple hundred dollars less , but why not just buy a tried and true shortblock that has a warrenty

94pacecarSVT · April 28th, 2008, 01:09 AM

would it be worth it to do this to mine if i was planning on turning the boost up? buying a built shortblock? and is there a 5.4 liter stroker kit?

HBK_2007 · April 28th, 2008, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by 94pacecarSVT

would it be worth it to do this to mine if i was planning on turning the boost up? buying a built shortblock? and is there a 5.4 liter stroker kit?

yes i think it would. no there isnt a 5.4 L stroker kit. there isnt enough material (bore) or stroke to get 5.4. the 5.4 L motors actually have a taller deck hieght so if you want to convert to a 5.4, ur gonna need a 5.4 block

NXstang · April 28th, 2008, 01:27 AM

Also, there's some places to stay away from....SHM and MMR are 2 off the top of my head I can think of. Both used to be excellant companies but now just, well....suck.

HBK_2007 · April 28th, 2008, 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by NXstang

Also, there's some places to stay away from....SHM and MMR are 2 off the top of my head I can think of. Both used to be excellant companies but now just, well....suck.

wtf? since when was MMR a crappy company?

NXstang · April 28th, 2008, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by HBK_2007

wtf? since when was MMR a crappy company?

Since they started putting out shitty shortblocks....They used to be good buti n the last year or so, they have went to shit. All I read anymore is how their shortblocks die left and right under the rated HP levels.

I'd say get it built LOCALLY...that way you know who built the block and it isnt some company 3000 miles away who doesn't give a fuck.

usafimj · April 28th, 2008, 03:34 AM

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HBK_2007 · April 28th, 2008, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by NXstang

Since they started putting out shitty shortblocks....They used to be good buti n the last year or so, they have went to shit. All I read anymore is how their shortblocks die left and right under the rated HP levels.

I'd say get it built LOCALLY...that way you know who built the block and it isnt some company 3000 miles away who doesn't give a fuck.

well thats good to know before i bought one.

Originally Posted by usafimj

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thats cool but personally, i want an alumium block, not an iron one, idk what SilverStang03 is looking for tho as far as block material

acmillr · April 28th, 2008, 12:50 PM

MMR builds great shortblocks. Don't let some internet chitter chatter and e-thuggin' steer you away from a reputable compny.

jivepepper · April 28th, 2008, 12:58 PM

Been running a MMR MOD 900 shortblock for over 2 years and it still runs strong. I hope to get their stage 3 heads in a couple weeks.

HBK_2007 · April 28th, 2008, 01:04 PM

ok ac, ur rep is better than nxstangs so i think ill trust urs over his. ive been looking for alumium shortblocks but mmr, no matter the quality, are till $3698 (alumium 900) w/o shiping and none of the fancy stuff they offer and im curious if i can find it a little cheaper from a different, but reputiable bulider

MATT02GT · April 28th, 2008, 01:05 PM

Hey Jive, what did that shortblock set ya back if ya dont mind me askin?

acmillr · April 28th, 2008, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by HBK_2007

ok ac, ur rep is better than nxstangs so i think ill trust urs over his. ive been looking for alumium shortblocks but mmr, no matter the quality, are till $3698 (alumium 900) w/o shiping and none of the fancy stuff they offer and im curious if i can find it a little cheaper from a different, but reputiable bulider

Actually, that price is very good. Try to price all the parts, pieces, machining, balancing, and assembly out. You will find that the MMR shortblock is an excellent deal at that price. Just pistons and rods are going to run in the neigborhood of $1500 if quality parts are purchased.

HBK_2007 · April 28th, 2008, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by acmillr

Actually, that price is very good. Try to price all the parts, pieces, machining, balancing, and assembly out. You will find that the MMR shortblock is an excellent deal at that price. Just pistons and rods are going to run in the neigborhood of $1500 if quality parts are purchased.

well alot of it i can do myself, such as putting it together, but i cant do the machining. other places ive found that have pretty good reps are about the same price as mmr

jivepepper · April 28th, 2008, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by MATT02GT

Hey Jive, what did that shortblock set ya back if ya dont mind me askin?

Mine was almost 3300 after shipping. I have all the apr hardware, notched pistons, and their oil pump. Of course thats 2 years ago. They also threw in the notched pistons for free. They let me pay for the shortblock first, and then shipping 3 weeks later when it was finished. That allowed me until my next pay to finish paying for it.

April 28th, 2008, 12:52 AM	#1
SilverStang03 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 Mustang Gt Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Barrington RI Posts: 1,292 iTrader: 0 reviews	Forged pistons??? should i get a forged short block or go for the pistons?? my motor has 72k on it, and it seems that everyone i know around here prefers to just put in shortblocks, and not pistons. what is a reasonable price for either? i got quoted 2 grand for a fuckin short block, would a forged rotating assembly and balance be less?? and if so is there anyone around my area (MA or RI) who will do it? __________________

April 28th, 2008, 01:01 AM	#2
NXstang Enlongated Member 2002 Mustang GT 11.95@113MPH Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 301 iTrader: 0 reviews	Do a whole shortblock. The rods are powdered junk in 2v's. If the rods were good, the pistons could last to 500+HP. Get a BUILT shortblock and never look back. its expensive but thats how the modular game goes. __________________ 2002 Mustang GT 4V swapped Nitrous best: 7.47@93MPH 1.60 60ft Turbo best: N/A 2008 Pontiac G8 GT Grocery Getter Mineral Gray Club Member #5

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94pacecarSVT Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT 11.2@122.36 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 656 iTrader: 1 reviews	would it be worth it to do this to mine if i was planning on turning the boost up? buying a built shortblock? and is there a 5.4 liter stroker kit? __________________ black 96 gt w/ non pi motor, cai, built t45, built rear end w/ 3.73's, completely modded suspension, race radiator.....startin over. www.rk-collection.com

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NXstang Enlongated Member 2002 Mustang GT 11.95@113MPH Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 301 iTrader: 0 reviews	Also, there's some places to stay away from....SHM and MMR are 2 off the top of my head I can think of. Both used to be excellant companies but now just, well....suck. __________________ 2002 Mustang GT 4V swapped Nitrous best: 7.47@93MPH 1.60 60ft Turbo best: N/A 2008 Pontiac G8 GT Grocery Getter Mineral Gray Club Member #5

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acmillr MM's Mad Scientist Slow Fella Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 5,111 iTrader: 2 reviews	MMR builds great shortblocks. Don't let some internet chitter chatter and e-thuggin' steer you away from a reputable compny. __________________

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jivepepper I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 5,025 iTrader: 1 reviews	Been running a MMR MOD 900 shortblock for over 2 years and it still runs strong. I hope to get their stage 3 heads in a couple weeks. __________________ 665/541 WHP/WTQ 4.6L SOHC 2V ON 93 OCTANE PUMP GAS. NO METH INJ., NO E85, NO RACE GAS, N2O BABY BOTTLES! TRAP=POWER: 11.01 @135, IN SUMMER HEAT, 1350' TRACK, 315/35/17 DR'S

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HBK_2007 Genibus Nitito Canus 2009 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 2,826 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok ac, ur rep is better than nxstangs so i think ill trust urs over his. ive been looking for alumium shortblocks but mmr, no matter the quality, are till $3698 (alumium 900) w/o shiping and none of the fancy stuff they offer and im curious if i can find it a little cheaper from a different, but reputiable bulider __________________ Red 1996 GT: JLT RAI, Steeda Underdrive pullies, Stewart Waterpump; nothing to brag about Black 2009 45th aniverary edition GT 5 speed: K&N CAI, BBK Twin 62mm Throttle Body, BBK Underdrive Pullies, SLP Loudmouth

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