[DeMello]

Originally Posted by Steele6599 I thought about it but wouldnt you need to run premium gas as well? this build would only require regular...

no...there are plenty of kits (if not all) that you can run regular gas with...i plan on having a daily driver with more power then your tlking about and making the power with mainly boost. other people will need to inform you more about it but i know you can still fill up at gas stations

think bout this....terimes, gt 500s, lighitng, 427 roush, and similar fords come s/c and run on pump gas

[B0B]

steele you are right v10 would be cool and unique.. it will end up costing you more money and you wont get as much out of it than if you built the 4.6 up.

here are some different ideas to consider:

you can either get a forged rotating assembly or a forged shortblock, both combinations you can go for the 5.0 liter stroker option if displacement is what you're looking for. a forged rotating assembly will cost you about $1600 whereas a forged shortblock will cost around $3200. the shortblock is pre-assembled and there won't be any work required you just have to bolt everything up (heads, intake, etc..) and drop her in. after you do the shortblock your engine will handle as much power as you can throw at it.

now there are several options you can consider for a power adder. if you want a cheap route you can put in a huge shot of nitrous, or you can go with a supercharger or turbo. i'm sure you've done your research on this stuff but a supercharger will run you from $2500 for a used setup all the way up to $6000, and that is a complete kit that will come with everything you need to get your car going. turbo kits are more expensive, but most of them come with a tubular k-member and coilover front suspension.

with this done you can EASILY have a 600+ rwhp street car, for about the same if not less than it would cost to do the v10 swap

[sgrcltpunk]

well if your worried about regular gas vs premium its on average 20 cent more per gallon so thats about $3.02 a tank but id get a v10 and sc it

[Steele6599]

Originally Posted by 06RedfireGT Keep in mind you will be adding a shit ton of weight to t he front end. It will handle like a bus. It would be much simpler and cheaper to forged and supercharge the current 4.6

I thought of that as well, that is why i included the approximate engine weight... things that I would do to compensate for the increase weight are the tublar A arms and K member and coilovers, fiber glass "Currently have Stalker" or carbon hood and relocation of the battery should more than make up for it... 140lbs is not that much... how much does Supercharger, Intercooler and all of its accessories way?

[DeMello]

take bobs advice...and if you want you can first do the s/c and have about 400rwhp and then get the shortblock and raise your psi if you wnat to have 600+

and if this is gonna be a DD id suggest getting an intercooler

[Steele6599]

Originally Posted by B0B steele you are right v10 would be cool and unique.. it will end up costing you more money and you wont get as much out of it than if you built the 4.6 up. here are some different ideas to consider: you can either get a forged rotating assembly or a forged shortblock, both combinations you can go for the 5.0 liter stroker option if displacement is what you're looking for. a forged rotating assembly will cost you about $1600 whereas a forged shortblock will cost around $3200. the shortblock is pre-assembled and there won't be any work required you just have to bolt everything up (heads, intake, etc..) and drop her in. after you do the shortblock your engine will handle as much power as you can throw at it. now there are several options you can consider for a power adder. if you want a cheap route you can put in a huge shot of nitrous, or you can go with a supercharger or turbo. i'm sure you've done your research on this stuff but a supercharger will run you from $2500 for a used setup all the way up to $6000, and that is a complete kit that will come with everything you need to get your car going. turbo kits are more expensive, but most of them come with a tubular k-member and coilover front suspension. with this done you can EASILY have a 600+ rwhp street car, for about the same if not less than it would cost to do the v10 swap

thanks, this is some good feed back, I actually did not think about moving the heads and etc.. to a new short block...

Im still looking at the cost as well...
Crate engine on ebay $3,000 with Harness and all "Could probably find cheaper in yard'
Kmember and A Arms plus coilover $700 GMS

GAS!!! would be Regular and not Premium, I dont think it would use any more than a supercharged 4.6 and maybe less.

[B0B]

Originally Posted by Steele6599 thanks, this is some good feed back, I actually did not think about moving the heads and etc.. to a new short block... Im still looking at the cost as well... Crate engine on ebay $3,000 with Harness and all "Could probably find cheaper in yard' Kmember and A Arms plus coilover $700 GMS GAS!!! would be Regular and not Premium, I dont think it would use any more than a supercharged 4.6 and maybe less.

a v10 will suck up a lot more gas man.. in normal driving conditions, superchargers and turbo's can actually increase your fuel mileage because they make your engine run more efficiently. Regency2007 used to have an 07 turbocharged GT with 4.10 gears and he reported getting 30+ mpg on the freeway.

[Steele6599]

Originally Posted by B0B a v10 will suck up a lot more gas man.. in normal driving conditions, superchargers and turbo's can actually increase your fuel mileage because they make your engine run more efficiently. Regency2007 used to have an 07 turbocharged GT with 4.10 gears and he reported getting 30+ mpg on the freeway.

I beleive you maybe right... I definetly seen gas saving when a car was tuned with after market parts...

Dont you have to run Premium fuel?

[DeMello]

if you plan on having a DD with that much power i wouldnt get a used engine from a junk yard or anyhting like that...im sure you can buy a brand new one with 0 miles on it that has some kind of warrenty

wtf u gonna do after buying a engine you think is a good deal and it blows up a couple days later?

[B0B]

Originally Posted by Steele6599 I beleive you maybe right... I definetly seen gas saving when a car was tuned with after market parts... Dont you have to run Premium fuel?

well you could probably get it tuned to run regular but to be honest with you i dont see why spending .20 more on a gallon is such a big deal.. premium fuel is so much better for power, burns cleaner, and gives you better mileage

[03_StangGuy]

Originally Posted by Steele6599 I beleive you maybe right... I definetly seen gas saving when a car was tuned with after market parts... Dont you have to run Premium fuel?

To get the most power with a s/c you do need to run premium pump gas, you can get it tuned for regular if you want, its up to u. As said before premium gas only adds like $3 to the bill, a 6.8L v10 will likely use more gas and end up cost more at the pump. The bigger the motor the more gas itll use.

Id say get a used s/c for under 3 grand and get it tuned for 400/400 or so wit premium pump gas. Then when that excitiment wears off get a forged shortblock and go crazy! Thats my plan for my 4.6.

PS, ull end up being lighter in the front than with the V10, especially after you get all the lightweight mods mentioned with the money u saved.

[Steele6599]

Thanks all for your replies, I would like to take this a different direction and lets say my only choice is the V10. Lets focus on the "gotchas"
6.8L V10 2V or 6.8L V10 3V "2005" or newer?

Cooling?

Weight Control?

Tunning what would you all reccomend?

Exhaust?

What over the counter products can I use?

What limitations, e.g. if I want to change the heads does the motor need to be pulled?

What are truck guys doing to increase power?

Thanks all you have been very helpfull...

[DeMello]

you know for the money of getting your v10 in and installed youd be able to run like10s at the track by taking it the route of S/c and suspension

[pa.ulB]

get a viper engine

[DeMello]

or keep it ford with a 5.4 all aluminum block straight out of an 08 ford gt

[mr boogeyman]

Wouldn't it be to much weight and make the car slower ?

[DeMello]

Originally Posted by mr boogeyman Wouldn't it be to much weight and make the car slower ?

wat hes tlking bout or me?

[mr boogeyman]

Originally Posted by DeMello wat hes tlking bout or me?

What he is talking about...It would give him more HP but seems with all the weight it won't make the car alot faster...But then again i don't know squat, just guessing. i would still do it for Hp though

[DeMello]

i belive he posted that its 150 pounds heavier then the current one he has

[beheivjer]

screw the nah sayers do to swap build the v10 and have fun.