Cam install today (and probly tommorow too)

limited · May 12th, 2008, 10:22 PM

if possible, when you change springs(esp on windsor heads with that tool) get a piece of alum. pipe 1" dia and a little longer than the cams,gears must be off, put cam caps on and slide pipe in from front. it will remove out of way when needed and you don't have the cam lobes fighting you. I did this and it made the job WAY easier

zerofx150 · May 12th, 2008, 11:14 PM

so remove the cams and replace with the piece of 1in tubing, i take it the chains and covers are off as well, if i read that right thats a great idea.

As for coming to TN, you pay for the flight there and back i'm game

nba1341 · May 12th, 2008, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

sure is nice to have a nice cammed car... Makes ppl look at you at stop lights...

+1

jrobinsonchicago · May 12th, 2008, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by zerofx150

so remove the cams and replace with the piece of 1in tubing, i take it the chains and covers are off as well, if i read that right thats a great idea.

As for coming to TN, you pay for the flight there and back i'm game

The flight to Chicago would save me about $300 on the install. Want to come to the Windy City, party, and work on cars?

zerofx150 · May 13th, 2008, 08:54 AM

i will be in Chicago next weekend for Indy

Ryan Paymaster · May 13th, 2008, 10:48 AM

That write-up made it look too easy.

I also thought "Hey, that's a 2v, that means it will be 4000x more fun on a 4v!"

zerofx150 · May 13th, 2008, 11:27 AM

its not hard its just incredibly time consuming and tedious

sstang · May 13th, 2008, 06:36 PM

did you get it tuned yet?

zerofx150 · May 13th, 2008, 08:51 PM

just some basic idle work but not a real tune, we are working on that

Hillsbaseball08 · May 13th, 2008, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Ryan Paymaster

You seemed to tackle this pretty quickly! Nice work. I think you inspire a lot of us who want to put cams in but can't justify the ridiculous labor prices.

How hard are they to put in? I'm a little apprehensive about messing with the internals. (My bad I see the write up now. good job).

zerofx150 · May 13th, 2008, 09:32 PM

Its not a "hard install" its just teadious and so much gentle, slow, and methodical little things like installing keepers. You just have to take your usual pace and knock it down about 25%. Thats the best info i can give, now when we install my cams I plan on getting it done it a day, because i have half as much to do and its fresh to me and Steven.

Blackblurr_00GT · May 13th, 2008, 10:41 PM

Ya in all aspects i thought it was going to be hard but it really easy after I slowed down and looked at everything. And if you install your own cams and u have a tuner like a x-cal or diablo i found that setting my driving idle up to max and setting my neutral idle speed to 900 made my car really drivable and it dosent die everytime you stop at a light and you still get a mean sounding idle. I have enjoyed the looks plp in my town have been giving my car.

I am the only 4.6 mustang that i know of that is cammed in my town right now.

Blackblurr_00GT · May 13th, 2008, 10:45 PM

Oh and here is my mod list,
75mm TB and Plenum,
Steeda UDPs,
CMS stage 2 Cams,
Aluminium Driveshaft and Flywheel,
x-cal 93 tune,
3.90 gears,
Hurst short throw,
Uppers and Lowers,
and soon a C&L CAI Kit with the 80mm MAF.

Hillsbaseball08 · May 14th, 2008, 12:20 AM

What kind of gains can you expect from a cam swap?

Blackblurr_00GT · May 14th, 2008, 07:18 AM

I'm not really sure this is my first one

I think ( ACMILLER) could tell you more he's done a few.

zerofx150 · May 14th, 2008, 08:19 AM

probly an honest 20-25 rwhp

Hillsbaseball08 · May 14th, 2008, 12:12 PM

I hope you don't mind me asking but how much did this cost? Cams springs ect.?

zerofx150 · May 14th, 2008, 12:17 PM

cams: 600
Springs: 200
Gaskets: 60ish
Chains: 80
gears,bolts: 100
little more than a 1000. Steven jump in here and verify this all for me.

Hillsbaseball08 · May 14th, 2008, 12:22 PM

Dang quick response. Yea I didn't know it required that many things. I would ask you if it was worth it but i'm pretty sure I already know your answer.

zerofx150 · May 14th, 2008, 12:27 PM

well his car has the press on cam gears so we had to get the cam gears but he wanted new chains so that was extra.

May 12th, 2008, 10:22 PM	#21
limited Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tacoma,Washington Posts: 343	if possible, when you change springs(esp on windsor heads with that tool) get a piece of alum. pipe 1" dia and a little longer than the cams,gears must be off, put cam caps on and slide pipe in from front. it will remove out of way when needed and you don't have the cam lobes fighting you. I did this and it made the job WAY easier __________________ 99 limited edition conv. KB 2.1 9 psi intercooled.vt stage 3 blower cams,gt40 fp/bap,vt covers,frpp 3:73's,demolet cai,accufab 75mm tb,Sct Ba 2400,tri-ax,bfg kdw's,magnaflows Tuned by Joe at http://www.tricktuners.com

May 12th, 2008, 11:14 PM	#22
zerofx150 Regular 2003 GT 13.6 @ 101 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ada OK Posts: 316	so remove the cams and replace with the piece of 1in tubing, i take it the chains and covers are off as well, if i read that right thats a great idea. As for coming to TN, you pay for the flight there and back i'm game __________________ 03 GT 5sp, K&N FIPK, MAC LT ceramic coated headers, BBK o/r hipe ceramic coated, Steeda Tri-ax, 4.10, SCT X-cal2, NX plate Kit, Eibach Drag-Launch Springs, tubular upper and lower rear control arms

May 13th, 2008, 08:54 AM	#25
zerofx150 Regular 2003 GT 13.6 @ 101 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ada OK Posts: 316	i will be in Chicago next weekend for Indy __________________ 03 GT 5sp, K&N FIPK, MAC LT ceramic coated headers, BBK o/r hipe ceramic coated, Steeda Tri-ax, 4.10, SCT X-cal2, NX plate Kit, Eibach Drag-Launch Springs, tubular upper and lower rear control arms

May 13th, 2008, 11:27 AM	#27
zerofx150 Regular 2003 GT 13.6 @ 101 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ada OK Posts: 316	its not hard its just incredibly time consuming and tedious __________________ 03 GT 5sp, K&N FIPK, MAC LT ceramic coated headers, BBK o/r hipe ceramic coated, Steeda Tri-ax, 4.10, SCT X-cal2, NX plate Kit, Eibach Drag-Launch Springs, tubular upper and lower rear control arms

May 13th, 2008, 08:51 PM	#29
zerofx150 Regular 2003 GT 13.6 @ 101 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ada OK Posts: 316	just some basic idle work but not a real tune, we are working on that __________________ 03 GT 5sp, K&N FIPK, MAC LT ceramic coated headers, BBK o/r hipe ceramic coated, Steeda Tri-ax, 4.10, SCT X-cal2, NX plate Kit, Eibach Drag-Launch Springs, tubular upper and lower rear control arms

May 13th, 2008, 10:48 AM	#26
Ryan Paymaster Enthusiast 1996 Ford SVT Cobra 13.49@102 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Plainfield, IL USA Posts: 540	That write-up made it look too easy. I also thought "Hey, that's a 2v, that means it will be 4000x more fun on a 4v!"

May 13th, 2008, 06:36 PM	#28
sstang Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 165	did you get it tuned yet?

May 13th, 2008, 09:32 PM	#31
zerofx150 Regular 2003 GT 13.6 @ 101 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ada OK Posts: 316	Its not a "hard install" its just teadious and so much gentle, slow, and methodical little things like installing keepers. You just have to take your usual pace and knock it down about 25%. Thats the best info i can give, now when we install my cams I plan on getting it done it a day, because i have half as much to do and its fresh to me and Steven. __________________ 03 GT 5sp, K&N FIPK, MAC LT ceramic coated headers, BBK o/r hipe ceramic coated, Steeda Tri-ax, 4.10, SCT X-cal2, NX plate Kit, Eibach Drag-Launch Springs, tubular upper and lower rear control arms

May 13th, 2008, 10:41 PM	#32
Blackblurr_00GT Regular Y2K GT 13.6@101 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ada Oklahoma Posts: 324	Ya in all aspects i thought it was going to be hard but it really easy after I slowed down and looked at everything. And if you install your own cams and u have a tuner like a x-cal or diablo i found that setting my driving idle up to max and setting my neutral idle speed to 900 made my car really drivable and it dosent die everytime you stop at a light and you still get a mean sounding idle. I have enjoyed the looks plp in my town have been giving my car. I am the only 4.6 mustang that i know of that is cammed in my town right now. __________________ Studies show that 92% of kids listen to rap. If you are one of the 8% who still listens to real music put this in your signature.

May 13th, 2008, 10:45 PM	#33
Blackblurr_00GT Regular Y2K GT 13.6@101 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ada Oklahoma Posts: 324	Oh and here is my mod list, 75mm TB and Plenum, Steeda UDPs, CMS stage 2 Cams, Aluminium Driveshaft and Flywheel, x-cal 93 tune, 3.90 gears, Hurst short throw, Uppers and Lowers, and soon a C&L CAI Kit with the 80mm MAF. __________________ Studies show that 92% of kids listen to rap. If you are one of the 8% who still listens to real music put this in your signature.

May 14th, 2008, 12:20 AM	#34
Hillsbaseball08 Regular 2002 Mustang GT 8.15@86 (1/8) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Worth,Texas Posts: 459	What kind of gains can you expect from a cam swap? __________________ 07 GT500 & 2002 GT: 100 Shot Of Nitrous, 75mm BBK Throttle Body and Plenum, C&L Intake, Flowmaster Exaust, Bassani X Pipes, 3:73 Gear Ratio, BBK Upper and Lower Control Arms, Pro 5.0 Shifter, DiabloSport Tune, Underdrive Pulleys, Line Lock.

May 14th, 2008, 07:18 AM	#35
Blackblurr_00GT Regular Y2K GT 13.6@101 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ada Oklahoma Posts: 324	I'm not really sure this is my first one I think ( ACMILLER) could tell you more he's done a few. __________________ Studies show that 92% of kids listen to rap. If you are one of the 8% who still listens to real music put this in your signature.

May 14th, 2008, 08:19 AM	#36
zerofx150 Regular 2003 GT 13.6 @ 101 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ada OK Posts: 316	probly an honest 20-25 rwhp __________________ 03 GT 5sp, K&N FIPK, MAC LT ceramic coated headers, BBK o/r hipe ceramic coated, Steeda Tri-ax, 4.10, SCT X-cal2, NX plate Kit, Eibach Drag-Launch Springs, tubular upper and lower rear control arms

May 14th, 2008, 12:12 PM	#37
Hillsbaseball08 Regular 2002 Mustang GT 8.15@86 (1/8) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Worth,Texas Posts: 459	I hope you don't mind me asking but how much did this cost? Cams springs ect.? __________________ 07 GT500 & 2002 GT: 100 Shot Of Nitrous, 75mm BBK Throttle Body and Plenum, C&L Intake, Flowmaster Exaust, Bassani X Pipes, 3:73 Gear Ratio, BBK Upper and Lower Control Arms, Pro 5.0 Shifter, DiabloSport Tune, Underdrive Pulleys, Line Lock.

May 14th, 2008, 12:17 PM	#38
zerofx150 Regular 2003 GT 13.6 @ 101 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ada OK Posts: 316	cams: 600 Springs: 200 Gaskets: 60ish Chains: 80 gears,bolts: 100 little more than a 1000. Steven jump in here and verify this all for me. __________________ 03 GT 5sp, K&N FIPK, MAC LT ceramic coated headers, BBK o/r hipe ceramic coated, Steeda Tri-ax, 4.10, SCT X-cal2, NX plate Kit, Eibach Drag-Launch Springs, tubular upper and lower rear control arms

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May 14th, 2008, 12:22 PM	#39
Hillsbaseball08 Regular 2002 Mustang GT 8.15@86 (1/8) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fort Worth,Texas Posts: 459	Dang quick response. Yea I didn't know it required that many things. I would ask you if it was worth it but i'm pretty sure I already know your answer. __________________ 07 GT500 & 2002 GT: 100 Shot Of Nitrous, 75mm BBK Throttle Body and Plenum, C&L Intake, Flowmaster Exaust, Bassani X Pipes, 3:73 Gear Ratio, BBK Upper and Lower Control Arms, Pro 5.0 Shifter, DiabloSport Tune, Underdrive Pulleys, Line Lock.

May 14th, 2008, 12:27 PM	#40
zerofx150 Regular 2003 GT 13.6 @ 101 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ada OK Posts: 316	well his car has the press on cam gears so we had to get the cam gears but he wanted new chains so that was extra. __________________ 03 GT 5sp, K&N FIPK, MAC LT ceramic coated headers, BBK o/r hipe ceramic coated, Steeda Tri-ax, 4.10, SCT X-cal2, NX plate Kit, Eibach Drag-Launch Springs, tubular upper and lower rear control arms