[CODEBLUE]

Long story short I lost my keys.
What can I do now?

I was told by a local lock smith that they can replace my locks but I will need to have the system re-programed .

What are they talking about exactly?

[03TropicGt]

the key has a chip inside it and it activates the computer. you need to go to ford to get a ford key give them your VIN and they will cut the key then you have to have the car towed there to program it

[yojoe600]

you have PATS which is a security system on our cars... each key has a computer chip in it with a distinked code so no one can steel our cars even with the same teeth on the key... they will have to reprogram the PATS system with the new keys

[DanTheMan]

PATs system, the key has a chip the ECM recognizes... your car wont start if you don't have it programmed

probably gonna have to go to a dealership

[DanTheMan]

damn y'all beat me to it

[yojoe600]

yea and 03tropic beat me bc im slow at typing lol

[LeadFoot_GT]

jumping on the band wagon here...like everyone said you have PATS..

To be short and to the point, you need TWO new keys since the whole system reset requires it...thats roughly $40-42 retail for the keys, or cheaper if you know someone...i can probably help you since i work for ford anyways. and about a range of $92-however much they want to charge you, for labor.

all in all if you go by your nearest dealer your looking at over $200+ dollars (no discount) to just start your car.

[yojoe600]

^ yea hes right thats why i only have one key bc they will charge me out the ass to get a second one made... but to save you some money u can check ebay for blank keys they are usually cheaper on there

[03TropicGt]

i actually know alot of people in FORD and your suppose to have 3 keys to program a key not 2. but thats just what they tell you to get more money because if the guy knows what he doing you only need one key and trust me its true i witnessed it with my own eyes

[LeadFoot_GT]

Originally Posted by 03TropicGt i actually know alot of people in FORD and your suppose to have 3 keys to program a key not 2. but thats just what they tell you to get more money because if the guy knows what he doing you only need one key and trust me its true i witnessed it with my own eyes

It is true...you can do it with one key...but the process i saw just to do it with one almost made my mind explode with all the steps required to do it yourself.

Now if your talking about with the PCM connected with FORD's comp system then i wouldn't have a clue.

[03TropicGt]

this car is so damn wired up through the computer you really cant get around it. ford is a damn money pit

[yojoe600]

Originally Posted by 03TropicGt i actually know alot of people in FORD and your suppose to have 3 keys to program a key not 2. but thats just what they tell you to get more money because if the guy knows what he doing you only need one key and trust me its true i witnessed it with my own eyes

if there is a way without going to ford i would like to know bc i only have 1 key

[03TropicGt]

Originally Posted by yojoe600 if there is a way without going to ford i would like to know bc i only have 1 key

no you still have to go to ford what i was sayin is you really dont need more then one key to do it. you need the ford computer at your house to do it without going there

[yojoe600]

now if i can just get me hands on one of dem computers

[CODEBLUE]

That sucks 4 me !

[johnr2001]

I paid like 20.00 for a key on ebay and 55.00 to have it cut and programmed. I dont know what they are doing to charge anyone 200.00 ?????????

[LeadFoot_GT]

Originally Posted by johnr2001 I paid like 20.00 for a key on ebay and 55.00 to have it cut and programmed. I dont know what they are doing to charge anyone 200.00 ?????????

You'd be surprised...getting the part is easy...having an accurate quote for labor is near next to impossible.

[B0B]

so heres a question... if someone tries to steal your car how the hell can they get it started without the proper key. i guess you dont hear about mustangs getting stolen too often.. well besides HMUSN that is..

[LeadFoot_GT]

Originally Posted by B0B so heres a question... if someone tries to steal your car how the hell can they get it started without the proper key. i guess you dont hear about mustangs getting stolen too often.. well besides HMUSN that is..

Reason 1:HMUSN could have taken off the PATS system via a programmer

Reason 2:Their is always a way around any system...they could of bypassed the PATS system and rigged it to straight wire it to the ignition.

i could be wrong on reason 2, but anything can happen given persistance and utter reason for that person to be a complete asshole to steal HMUSN's car and have the skills to hotwire and or find a way around the system.

[03TropicGt]

you have to really know the system on the car to get around it, like a ford tech probably do it. but yeah its really not the computer its the program on it, its about 5grand