[PowerShiftz02GT]

If i lower my car do i need both of these or just the bumpsteer. the descriptions of them both sound the same?

[00vabchgt]

i'm only using the bumpsteer kit right now and the car drives straight. it wouldn't hurt to get the balljoint kit down the road. if you had to pick one to get now, i'd get the bumpsteer kit...

[PowerShiftz02GT]

yeah i was going to buy bumpsteer right now. But i just wasn't sure if the X2's were needed as well.

[Blk01ponyGT]

basically they do the same thing but for different points in your suspension so they would both bennefit but you dont need them togeather

[00vabchgt]

i got the Steeda bumpsteer kit and can't say enough good things about it. it almost installs itself, it's that easy. if you aren't already planning on it, i recommend a set of Maximum Motorsports 4 bolt Caster/ Camber plates...

[Blk01ponyGT]

yeah definately get some CC plates

[PowerShiftz02GT]

yeah im getting those to.

[quiksilver225]

get both. I had a balljoint blow out on me and ruin my fender, wheel well, strut, and bumper cover. If your gonna be down there you might as well replace them too. I have them and they are a terrific part. Great quality! I vote for the BBK C/C plates. No drilling, 4 bolts, easy install, most adjustable. Also a Great part!

[PowerShiftz02GT]

^^wow good to know. Yeah how much are the BBK C/C Plates?

[StuTheMusicEngineer]

Originally Posted by PowerShiftz02GT If i lower my car do i need both of these or just the bumpsteer. the descriptions of them both sound the same?

They both help the steering in different ways, but if I were you I'd put my money into CC plates, control arms (lower/upper), polyurethane bushings, and shocks struts if you wanna improve the suspension of a lowered stang...

I did the first 3 stages of Steeda's Gtrac all at once and drove a year and half everyday before I put the ball joint and bumpsteer kit in...I'd be lying if I said it didnt improve the steering, and the bumpsteer.....but imho there are a lot of better supension mods you could do to a lowered stang before u do the balljoint and the bumpsteer.....

but you will notice the mod definately....

[PowerShiftz02GT]

How much did you pay for your Steeda G Trac Stages. Was that a package?

[quiksilver225]

Originally Posted by StuTheMusicEngineer They both help the steering in different ways, but if I were you I'd put my money into CC plates, control arms (lower/upper), polyurethane bushings, and shocks struts if you wanna improve the suspension of a lowered stang... I did the first 3 stages of Steeda's Gtrac all at once and drove a year and half everyday before I put the ball joint and bumpsteer kit in...I'd be lying if I said it didnt improve the steering, and the bumpsteer.....but imho there are a lot of better supension mods you could do to a lowered stang before u do the balljoint and the bumpsteer..... but you will notice the mod definately....

Not a very astute method of saving money. The money you thing your saving is goiong right into repairs when something else breaks! Lowering your car adds sooo many stresses to other suspension and chassis components! You NEED to relieve those stresses! I speak from experience. Dont be foolish like i was and "lower" my suspension. Instead of "lowering" have the mindset to "improve" it. Lowering will obviously be a big part of that improvment, but DO IT RIGHT. I was dumb and just slapped a set of sportline spring on and look what happened! Had i gotten everything at once, whihc i encourage you to do, i would not have blown a ball joint. When that thing blew out my car fell onto the wheel as it was no longer supported by the suspension/chassis causing my stryt to bend, wheel well to cave in, bumper to burst off of the front, and fender to bend. BAD NEWS! I was only doing 15mph, had i been going fast it was lights out! Honestly if you can't afford to do it right and get all parts required then dont do it till you've saved up enough. My two favorite lines: "Do it right or dont do it at all" and "Your car is only as good as its parts"

[quiksilver225]

Originally Posted by PowerShiftz02GT ^^wow good to know. Yeah how much are the BBK C/C Plates?

about $200 from summit. Good thing to do is go onto google and type in the part number, find the best price and have summit(more reputable than some hole in the wall website) match the price.

[StuTheMusicEngineer]

Originally Posted by PowerShiftz02GT How much did you pay for your Steeda G Trac Stages. Was that a package?

Suspension Paks | 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 Mustang Parts

it wasnt cheap, but the car was ...I think I paid $1900 (all 4 stages)...which is actually a couple hundred cheaper than it was supposed to be if bought it straight off the website...I installed everything but the 4th stage with my father in about 2days. (novices we are, haha)
..then 4th stage I put on last week..
the car handles awesome now!....

honestly I think its bullshit how bad these cars handle stock, I love stangs as much as next guy, but damn....the 05' and up are much better stock...I still think they could be alot better from the factory IMHO

[quiksilver225]

Originally Posted by StuTheMusicEngineer Suspension Paks | 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 Mustang Parts it wasnt cheap, but the car was ...I think I paid $1900 (all 4 stages)...which is actually a couple hundred cheaper than it was supposed to be if bought it straight off the website...I installed everything but the 4th stage with my father in about 2days. (novices we are, haha) ..then 4th stage I put on last week.. the car handles awesome now!.... honestly I think its bullshit how bad these cars handle stock, I love stangs as much as next guy, but damn....the 05' and up are much better stock...I still think they could be alot better from the factory IMHO

too expensive! and steeda does not make the best parts in all catagories. Id rather have eibach sway bars and springs, koni struts and shocks, BBK plates, etc.

[StuTheMusicEngineer]

Originally Posted by quiksilver225 too expensive! and steeda does not make the best parts in all catagories. Id rather have eibach sway bars and springs, koni struts and shocks, BBK plates, etc.

I could be wrong, but I doubt u could make a list part for part that is comparable, or better for less than the GTrac....I will say that steeda makes arguably the best CC plates out there, BUT the ones they put in the GTrac kit are not that great...(they are fine if u are like me and set them and forget them but if u want to be able make quick adjustments all the time I'd like to have these Aluminum 4-Bolt Caster Camber Plates - '94-'04 Ford Mustang

now the Steeda Sport Springs that come in the GTrac kit might not be quite as good as the Eibach Pros, but I will put the Steeda Comp Springs up against them...

[quiksilver225]

Originally Posted by StuTheMusicEngineer I could be wrong, but I doubt u could make a list part for part that is comparable, or better for less than the GTrac....I will say that steeda makes arguably the best CC plates out there, BUT the ones they put in the GTrac kit are not that great...(they are fine if u are like me and set them and forget them but if u want to be able make quick adjustments all the time I'd like to have these Aluminum 4-Bolt Caster Camber Plates - '94-'04 Ford Mustang now the Steeda Sport Springs that come in the GTrac kit might not be quite as good as the Eibach Pros, but I will put the Steeda Comp Springs up against them...

You took the words from my mouth. The GTrac kit is descent, but Steeda disapoints me in putting cheaper versions of their parts into the kit! Not to knock on your parts or anything, but its so dissapointing to see them do this when they make so many excellent parts. I would rather pass on the sway bars and strut tower braces, which r bad at the track anyways, no need for new control arms yet, the list goes on... Id rather get ther essentials first and get better parts. Eibach springs, BBK/Steeda/MM CC plates, Steeda joints, Steeda Bumpsteer, etc. Then later on when you actually make enough power to need that extra stuff(subframe connectors and such) you get them. I just feel like down the road when you make more power if you ever choose to do so, you will be dissapointed in your chassis/suspension and how much IMO you wasted on it...

[MATT02GT]

Call Steeda directly and ask them about a package deal. I got my Comp springs, cc plates, adjustible Tokicko's all around, full length subframes, alum upper control arms, and the front and rear sway bars for about $1600

[C MY 4D]

The X2 ball joints don't do the same thing as a bumpsteer kit. The x2 ball joint lowers the lower control arm to correct rollcenter. This corrects the suspension geometry from lowering the car. I would reccomend both.

I would also reccomend taking the extra time to install 4 bolt CC plates; especially if you go coilover in the future.

[StuTheMusicEngineer]

Originally Posted by quiksilver225 I would rather pass on the sway bars and strut tower braces, which r bad at the track anyways, no need for new control arms yet, the list goes on... Then later on when you actually make enough power to need that extra stuff(subframe connectors and such) you get them. I just feel like down the road when you make more power if you ever choose to do so, you will be dissapointed in your chassis/suspension and how much IMO you wasted on it...

u dont need to be making a lot of power to take advantage of Subframes, and control arms...try driving a stang with any amount of HP with and without subframes u will totally notice the difference in body stiffness...as with sway bars and strut tower braces they might be useless for drag racing but for making the car handle better, they are definatley noticeable in hard cornering....

all the stock suspension parts Ford put on these cars are complete shit, the newer stangs are a little better...but subframes, control arm, swaybars, and strut tower braces All make the car handle and feel better regardless what kind of power u make.....