Are headers pointless?

energiesource · June 4th, 2008, 01:35 AM

I want to get a mid pipe asap, id like headers but $600 isnt in my budget right now, but the thing about getting a mid pipe is that i wanted long tubes, and those with a mid pipe that fit stock exhaust manifolds wont work, so are headers worth it?

ReverendDexter · June 4th, 2008, 01:41 AM

why the need to get the midpipe now?

blk01gt · June 4th, 2008, 01:42 AM

^+1 Just hold off and save your money.

I think they are worth it, probably the second best mod i`ve done to my car, they are a freaking pain in the ass to install but it was worth it.

DeMello · June 4th, 2008, 01:43 AM

if you get an o/r pipe your cars gonna be really loud just with the slp in the back if all your caring about is sound

blk01gt · June 4th, 2008, 01:46 AM

It will be loud but not that bad, at least he has a LM2 cat back, I think that would sound amazing with LTs.

energiesource · June 4th, 2008, 01:59 AM

i want louder exhaust and i guess an OR midpipe would do that. i just want the right sound and i dont know how to get it. anyway

lilmarc1988 · June 4th, 2008, 02:00 AM

i can cut u a deal on my headers. u want?? new in box!!!

DeMello · June 4th, 2008, 02:02 AM

Originally Posted by energiesource

i want louder exhaust and i guess an OR midpipe would do that. i just want the right sound and i dont know how to get it. anyway

i wont get LTs simply cuz it would be too loud with wat i already have lol

energiesource · June 4th, 2008, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by lilmarc1988

i can cut u a deal on my headers. u want?? new in box!!!

sweet what kind?

lilmarc1988 · June 4th, 2008, 02:24 AM

man lt headers ceramic coated.

DeMello · June 4th, 2008, 02:26 AM

dude...read his sig lol

lilmarc1988 · June 4th, 2008, 02:27 AM

yo man pm about em

quiksilver225 · June 4th, 2008, 02:28 AM

save up and do it all at once. Get the headers and midpipe from the same manufacturer. I reccomend BBK ceramic headers and catted x pipe. High quality parts for a good price. Just be smart and keep cats on your exhaust. High flow aftermarket cats are so efficient nowadays that theres no difference in performance btw o/r and high flow catted mid pipes. Also, you will pass emissions, you wont get fined, you wont get impounded, you wont need to buy MIL eliminators, and you wont need a tune. KEEP CATS, SAVE FOR HEADERS! do it right or dont do it at all.

lilmarc1988 · June 4th, 2008, 02:29 AM

get my macs. sell them to u less than u can get bbk ceramic 1's. BRAND NEW LOL

blk01gt · June 4th, 2008, 02:30 AM

actually you wont pass emissions with any long tube headers, they move the O2 sensors from there factory location.

energiesource · June 4th, 2008, 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by blk01gt

actually you wont pass emissions with any long tube headers, they move the O2 sensors from there factory location.

we dont have emissions tests and inspections all the time here. so its okay

quiksilver225 · June 4th, 2008, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by blk01gt

actually you wont pass emissions with any long tube headers, they move the O2 sensors from there factory location.

You WILL pass emissions, its inspection that causes the issue. But, i have never had an issue w/ my mechanic and dunno anyone who has. Its dumb.. You still have O2 sensors, just with extensions on them. They do the same thing and are in the "same" location, its just that the bung is farther back in relation to the frame, not the cats. Any self respecting mechanic would let you slide on that!

blk01gt · June 4th, 2008, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by quiksilver225

You WILL pass emissions, its inspection that causes the issue. But, i have never had an issue w/ my mechanic and dunno anyone who has. Its dumb.. You still have O2 sensors, just with extensions on them. They do the same thing and are in the "same" location, its just that the bung is farther back in relation to the frame, not the cats. Any self respecting mechanic would let you slide on that!

Most people do let your slide, but that is just technically what the law states. I dont agree with it by any means though.

quiksilver225 · June 4th, 2008, 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by blk01gt

Most people do let your slide, but that is just technically what the law states. I dont agree with it by any means though.

ya, its retarded. Because if you think about it they really are in the same place in relation to the cats, thus performing the same job.

blk01gt · June 4th, 2008, 02:58 AM

I agree completely. I`m just glad there aren't emissions inspections (sniffer or visual) down here.

June 4th, 2008, 01:35 AM	#1
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,048	Are headers pointless? I want to get a mid pipe asap, id like headers but $600 isnt in my budget right now, but the thing about getting a mid pipe is that i wanted long tubes, and those with a mid pipe that fit stock exhaust manifolds wont work, so are headers worth it? __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, Steeda Triax shifter, Underdrive pulleys, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. Transmission fix, new clutch Coming soon: Brakes.

June 4th, 2008, 01:41 AM	#2
ReverendDexter Devil's Advocate '98 Cobra/'90 GT 'vert Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 3,836	why the need to get the midpipe now? __________________ War is Peace \|\| Freedom is Slavery \|\| Ignorance is Strength Founder of the DMC

June 4th, 2008, 01:42 AM	#3
blk01gt Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 194	^+1 Just hold off and save your money. I think they are worth it, probably the second best mod i`ve done to my car, they are a freaking pain in the ass to install but it was worth it. __________________ 01 Mustang GT \| 5 Speed \| Bullitt Engine \| 4.10's \| Diablo Tuner \| JLT CAI \| Flowtech LT Headers, bbk catted H, dynomax catback \| 01 Carbon Black BMW M3 w/dynomax exhaust

June 4th, 2008, 01:46 AM	#5
blk01gt Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 194	It will be loud but not that bad, at least he has a LM2 cat back, I think that would sound amazing with LTs. __________________ 01 Mustang GT \| 5 Speed \| Bullitt Engine \| 4.10's \| Diablo Tuner \| JLT CAI \| Flowtech LT Headers, bbk catted H, dynomax catback \| 01 Carbon Black BMW M3 w/dynomax exhaust

June 4th, 2008, 01:59 AM	#6
energiesource MM Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Up der in canada eh Posts: 3,048	i want louder exhaust and i guess an OR midpipe would do that. i just want the right sound and i dont know how to get it. anyway __________________ 2000 Mustang GT, Steeda Triax shifter, Underdrive pulleys, SLP LM2, MAC L/T and O/R H-pipe. Transmission fix, new clutch Coming soon: Brakes.

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June 4th, 2008, 01:43 AM	#4
DeMello Banned 01 nitrous injected GT 12s next time out... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 3,912	if you get an o/r pipe your cars gonna be really loud just with the slp in the back if all your caring about is sound

June 4th, 2008, 02:00 AM	#7
lilmarc1988 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 mustang gt Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: lehigh acres, fl Posts: 1,414	i can cut u a deal on my headers. u want?? new in box!!! __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3112249 kicker 10 inch L5, kicker 6x8 coaxials, kicker 400x1 and kicker 350x4

June 4th, 2008, 02:24 AM	#10
lilmarc1988 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 mustang gt Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: lehigh acres, fl Posts: 1,414	man lt headers ceramic coated. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3112249 kicker 10 inch L5, kicker 6x8 coaxials, kicker 400x1 and kicker 350x4

June 4th, 2008, 02:26 AM	#11
DeMello Banned 01 nitrous injected GT 12s next time out... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 3,912	dude...read his sig lol

June 4th, 2008, 02:27 AM	#12
lilmarc1988 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 mustang gt Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: lehigh acres, fl Posts: 1,414	yo man pm about em __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3112249 kicker 10 inch L5, kicker 6x8 coaxials, kicker 400x1 and kicker 350x4

June 4th, 2008, 02:28 AM	#13
quiksilver225 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,106	save up and do it all at once. Get the headers and midpipe from the same manufacturer. I reccomend BBK ceramic headers and catted x pipe. High quality parts for a good price. Just be smart and keep cats on your exhaust. High flow aftermarket cats are so efficient nowadays that theres no difference in performance btw o/r and high flow catted mid pipes. Also, you will pass emissions, you wont get fined, you wont get impounded, you wont need to buy MIL eliminators, and you wont need a tune. KEEP CATS, SAVE FOR HEADERS! do it right or dont do it at all.

June 4th, 2008, 02:29 AM	#14
lilmarc1988 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 mustang gt Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: lehigh acres, fl Posts: 1,414	get my macs. sell them to u less than u can get bbk ceramic 1's. BRAND NEW LOL __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3112249 kicker 10 inch L5, kicker 6x8 coaxials, kicker 400x1 and kicker 350x4

June 4th, 2008, 02:30 AM	#15
blk01gt Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 194	actually you wont pass emissions with any long tube headers, they move the O2 sensors from there factory location. __________________ 01 Mustang GT \| 5 Speed \| Bullitt Engine \| 4.10's \| Diablo Tuner \| JLT CAI \| Flowtech LT Headers, bbk catted H, dynomax catback \| 01 Carbon Black BMW M3 w/dynomax exhaust

June 4th, 2008, 02:58 AM	#20
blk01gt Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 194	I agree completely. I`m just glad there aren't emissions inspections (sniffer or visual) down here. __________________ 01 Mustang GT \| 5 Speed \| Bullitt Engine \| 4.10's \| Diablo Tuner \| JLT CAI \| Flowtech LT Headers, bbk catted H, dynomax catback \| 01 Carbon Black BMW M3 w/dynomax exhaust

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