Bolt Ons Question...

smokeshow · June 15th, 2008, 11:00 PM

There is no dyno remotely close to where I live, and I know it might be hard for you guys to give a close answer but even an estimate would be ideal.
I have Mac long tube headers, mac prochamber, mac catback, jlt cai, bbk udp's, 4.10 gears, diablo predator with bamachips tune. Basically everything except for a throttle body and plenum. I can't justify spending 400 dollars on a tb and plenum for what I've read is barely if any a noticable gain at all. So my question is with all these bolt ons what kind of horse power should I be at. RWHP of course, if there was a dyno close like I said I wouldn't be asking but theres not. Thanks.

04DSGV6 · June 15th, 2008, 11:13 PM

First off 4.10's wont change your hp. Secondly tb and plenum alone might not be good hp increase but they are supporting mods for other modifications making them more valuable than you want to admit. IMHO you wont be making too much power more than stock because all the mods you have aren't "full bolt ons" they are just intake and exhaust along with a better tune.

whtpny · June 16th, 2008, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by 04DSGV6

First off 4.10's wont change your hp. Secondly tb and plenum alone might not be good hp increase but they are supporting mods for other modifications making them more valuable than you want to admit. IMHO you wont be making too much power more than stock because all the mods you have aren't "full bolt ons" they are just intake and exhaust along with a better tune.

+1 on everything you said

i don't see why you would replace every part of your intake and exhaust except for tb and plenum

Blk01ponyGT · June 16th, 2008, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by 04DSGV6

you wont be making too much power more than stock because all the mods you have aren't "full bolt ons" they are just intake and exhaust along with a better tune.

how does he not have pretty much full bolt ons? i dont get it. hes got full exhaust an intake UDPs a tune...i also dont see the point in getting a tb or plenum when ive seen them sometimes hurt power or only gain 2-3hp at the wheels

DeMello · June 16th, 2008, 01:35 AM

i think he still needs a shifter for full bolt ons IMO

DeMello · June 16th, 2008, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by 04DSGV6

First off 4.10's wont change your hp. Secondly tb and plenum alone might not be good hp increase but they are supporting mods for other modifications making them more valuable than you want to admit. IMHO you wont be making too much power more than stock because all the mods you have aren't "full bolt ons" they are just intake and exhaust along with a better tune.

wat do u consider full bolt ons?

smokeshow · June 16th, 2008, 05:36 AM

I do have a shifter I just didn't mention it because I was asking about horse power, and I don't know how you think its not full bolt ons either, aside from what I have, the only bolt ons I can think of would be tb and plenum, stewart water pump, and aluminum drive shaft if you want to get fussy. I don't consider heads and cams bolt ons as they're a little more in depth.

andres0286 · June 16th, 2008, 07:33 AM

Heres the sticky for bolt-ons

First Modifications For Your Mustang, Look Here

00vabchgt · June 16th, 2008, 07:54 AM

i made 275 with this:
Exhaust
Spintech Catback
Mac Off Road Prochamber
Mac Long Tube Headers, flame sprayed by Vanwin Coatings
Engine
JLT CAI
BBK 75mm throttle body w/ BBK plenum
March UDP's
Optima Red Top Battery
Rebuilt Shortblock: Forged Manley Pistons (17cc dish, 3.571” bore), Forged Manley H-Beam Rods, Forged Cobra Crankshaft, Federal Mogul Main Bearings, Rod Bearings and Piston Rings, Stock Block Bored 0.020” and Honed
Polyurethane Motor Mounts
BBK O2 Extensions
Tuning
SCT X-Cal 2, custom tune by Dynotuned Peformance
275 hp, 310 tq

oh2swapped · June 16th, 2008, 08:31 AM

I made 253hp 273tq with tb and plenum (70mm), off road x, flowmaster cat back, udp, CAI, 3.73's, stock manifolds.

SteviGX · June 16th, 2008, 09:08 AM

my buddy made 282rwh and 309lbs of tourqe in his. MustangManic if anyone remembers. He's got accufab t/b. plenum. hooker long tubs with pypes catback. aluminum driveshaft, and a jlt. So anyone who says bolt on don't add up is stupid.

Novanutcase · June 16th, 2008, 12:19 PM

Short answer?

You're probably around 265........

John

DeMello · June 16th, 2008, 12:20 PM

am i at 250 at least?

White99stang · June 16th, 2008, 12:28 PM

And stevi i am sure those numbers are uncorrected and a little forged. I am sorry you are not make 280rwhp with just those mods. Hell with all those mods plus heads and cams when i had my diablo i only made 287rwhp so if with full bolt ons without heads and cams if you make in the 260 range be happy

injected03stang · June 16th, 2008, 12:36 PM

i wish i could tell you but i dont care about numbers on the dyno i just care about the numbers at the track
but.. i should probably get a dyno tune lol might help those track numbers

White99stang · June 16th, 2008, 12:41 PM

<--- i agree with all that too, dyno numbers don't matter. Supra's make 1000rwhp yet my 310rwhp ass whoops them at the track. To really see how a mod effects the car race it when it stock, get consistant and then put your bolt-ons on the car and then run it, then you can see how the effected the car. It kinda sucks to add alot of money to make your car run fast at the track but when you haven't been to the track to see what the car would do before said bolt-ons your not really seeing the difference

injected03stang · June 16th, 2008, 12:43 PM

yeah from what ive seen on our cars dynos are just heart breakers so i try to stay away

DeMello · June 16th, 2008, 12:44 PM

why are stangs so low in hp but still pretty quick?

White99stang · June 16th, 2008, 12:48 PM

cause they are lighter than most higher stock hp cars, and they are not that quick.

injected03stang · June 16th, 2008, 01:18 PM

cuz chevys are over rated lol ive never been able to explain it but most fords with less power are faster than chevys with more power... ex: stock ss camero run around 8.80's my gt on motor runs 8.20's my gt 260-270hp ss 340-360 hp

June 15th, 2008, 11:00 PM	#1
smokeshow Regular 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta Canada Posts: 198 iTrader: 0 reviews	Bolt Ons Question... There is no dyno remotely close to where I live, and I know it might be hard for you guys to give a close answer but even an estimate would be ideal. I have Mac long tube headers, mac prochamber, mac catback, jlt cai, bbk udp's, 4.10 gears, diablo predator with bamachips tune. Basically everything except for a throttle body and plenum. I can't justify spending 400 dollars on a tb and plenum for what I've read is barely if any a noticable gain at all. So my question is with all these bolt ons what kind of horse power should I be at. RWHP of course, if there was a dyno close like I said I wouldn't be asking but theres not. Thanks. __________________ 2004 Mustang GT 40th Anniversary Full Mac Exhaust (LT Headers, Pro Chamber, Catback) BBK UDP's FRPP 4.10 gears Diablo Predator Tuner MGW Short Throw Shifter JLT CAI Eibach Proline Springs lowered 1.5" 18" Saleen wheels, 305 Nitto Drag Radials

June 16th, 2008, 01:35 AM	#5
DeMello Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 3,947 iTrader: 1 reviews	i think he still needs a shifter for full bolt ons IMO __________________ Just Another Bolt on GT [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/54f5ua.jpg[/IMG] Stock Longblock - 287/276 Low 12s NA! 10s on the spray?

June 16th, 2008, 05:36 AM	#7
smokeshow Regular 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta Canada Posts: 198 iTrader: 0 reviews	I do have a shifter I just didn't mention it because I was asking about horse power, and I don't know how you think its not full bolt ons either, aside from what I have, the only bolt ons I can think of would be tb and plenum, stewart water pump, and aluminum drive shaft if you want to get fussy. I don't consider heads and cams bolt ons as they're a little more in depth. __________________ 2004 Mustang GT 40th Anniversary Full Mac Exhaust (LT Headers, Pro Chamber, Catback) BBK UDP's FRPP 4.10 gears Diablo Predator Tuner MGW Short Throw Shifter JLT CAI Eibach Proline Springs lowered 1.5" 18" Saleen wheels, 305 Nitto Drag Radials

June 16th, 2008, 07:33 AM	#8
andres0286 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Guaynabo, Puerto Rico Posts: 1,028 iTrader: 1 reviews	Heres the sticky for bolt-ons First Modifications For Your Mustang, Look Here __________________ 2002 GT SOLD 2003 Mustang GT Cobra Clone SOLD Procharged @ 8psi 458 rwhp Mods in Garage

June 16th, 2008, 08:31 AM	#10
oh2swapped Regular 02 Mustang GT 17.8@52 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Land O Lakes FL Posts: 338 iTrader: 1 reviews	I made 253hp 273tq with tb and plenum (70mm), off road x, flowmaster cat back, udp, CAI, 3.73's, stock manifolds. __________________ NEXT TO SEX, MY MUSTANG IS BEST

June 16th, 2008, 09:08 AM	#11
SteviGX Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.538@101.72 before cams&slicks&gears Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,544 iTrader: 2 reviews	my buddy made 282rwh and 309lbs of tourqe in his. MustangManic if anyone remembers. He's got accufab t/b. plenum. hooker long tubs with pypes catback. aluminum driveshaft, and a jlt. So anyone who says bolt on don't add up is stupid. __________________ Mineral Gray Club Member #2 Just your average 22 year old dumbass If you didn't build your car, and your bragging about it, STFU

June 16th, 2008, 12:19 PM	#12
Novanutcase Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 GT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 1,099 iTrader: 0 reviews	Short answer? You're probably around 265........ John __________________ SOLD - '03 GT, Max Moto Max Grip Box, Wilwood SL 6 front/DL4 rear Big Brake Kit, Corbeau Seats, MGW Short Shifter, MAC Long Tube Headers/Prochamber mid/ Flowmaster 40, FRPP 4.10, TrickFlow Diff Cover/75mm TB/Plenum, Eaton Posi, Moser 31 spl Axles

June 16th, 2008, 12:20 PM	#13
DeMello Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 3,947 iTrader: 1 reviews	am i at 250 at least? __________________ Just Another Bolt on GT [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/54f5ua.jpg[/IMG] Stock Longblock - 287/276 Low 12s NA! 10s on the spray?

June 16th, 2008, 12:28 PM	#14
White99stang MM's nicest mod, :) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 3,771 iTrader: 0 reviews	And stevi i am sure those numbers are uncorrected and a little forged. I am sorry you are not make 280rwhp with just those mods. Hell with all those mods plus heads and cams when i had my diablo i only made 287rwhp so if with full bolt ons without heads and cams if you make in the 260 range be happy __________________ 06 Dodge MegaCab Diesel 455rwhp/815rwtq REAL TRUCKS DON'T USE SPARK PLUGS

June 16th, 2008, 12:41 PM	#16
White99stang MM's nicest mod, :) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 3,771 iTrader: 0 reviews	<--- i agree with all that too, dyno numbers don't matter. Supra's make 1000rwhp yet my 310rwhp ass whoops them at the track. To really see how a mod effects the car race it when it stock, get consistant and then put your bolt-ons on the car and then run it, then you can see how the effected the car. It kinda sucks to add alot of money to make your car run fast at the track but when you haven't been to the track to see what the car would do before said bolt-ons your not really seeing the difference __________________ 06 Dodge MegaCab Diesel 455rwhp/815rwtq REAL TRUCKS DON'T USE SPARK PLUGS

June 16th, 2008, 12:44 PM	#18
DeMello Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 3,947 iTrader: 1 reviews	why are stangs so low in hp but still pretty quick? __________________ Just Another Bolt on GT [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/54f5ua.jpg[/IMG] Stock Longblock - 287/276 Low 12s NA! 10s on the spray?

June 16th, 2008, 12:48 PM	#19
White99stang MM's nicest mod, :) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 3,771 iTrader: 0 reviews	cause they are lighter than most higher stock hp cars, and they are not that quick. __________________ 06 Dodge MegaCab Diesel 455rwhp/815rwtq REAL TRUCKS DON'T USE SPARK PLUGS

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