Patriot sucks

jivepepper · July 1st, 2008, 07:45 PM

I made 7 hp more after adding stage 2 Patriots heads and the also added 2* of timing and ran 200 rpms higher. This was a 515 hp supercharged car. They got some of the low rpm cruising miss out at tuners but that is about it. Also I'm sorry I went with the bullets. Head is ringing after the 200 mile trip,

Saying I'm disappointed is an understatement. I have spent thousands off dollars to ruin what was a nice car.

F*ck!!!

HessiaN257 · July 1st, 2008, 07:56 PM

A quote from when you first posted if you should do it or not :| sorry things didn't work out.

Originally Posted by drgnracin72

i know theyv fixed a lot of things, but still, even now, they still have problems. youve got a fast car and i hate to see you spend more money in the long run on a pair of heads that arent as good. and you can get a better set than mmr for a lot cheaper than the price you listed

lilmarc1988 · July 1st, 2008, 08:12 PM

are u serious?? thats it?

MyGT · July 1st, 2008, 08:14 PM

Wow. Speechless

Smoothgrandmama · July 1st, 2008, 08:42 PM

Get ac to port them for you. . . . . . . .

jivepepper · July 1st, 2008, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Smoothgrandmama

Get ac to port them for you. . . . . . . .

Ac uses patriot.

G.T. Rags · July 1st, 2008, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by jivepepper

Ac uses patriot.

so?

just cause he uses them doesn't mean ur gonna get the same result

KhaosGT · July 1st, 2008, 09:03 PM

wow im sorry to hear that bro

jivepepper · July 1st, 2008, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

so?

just cause he uses them doesn't mean ur gonna get the same result

G.T. Rags · July 1st, 2008, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by jivepepper

does AC not do a custom P&P to the heads, or does he slap them on there straight form the box?

jivepepper · July 1st, 2008, 09:32 PM

The only other things that might be a little to blame. are my deep dish wheels which are a lot heavier than the stock satin gt wheels I had last time and it was 26* hotter than last time.

JayC · July 1st, 2008, 09:56 PM

Most of us know to stay away from Patriot junk.

MustangMatt96GT · July 1st, 2008, 10:45 PM

Sorry to hear the bug got to you too... I will never, ever, run a Patriot Part on my car again... Worst decision in the world.

prodrifterx · July 1st, 2008, 10:53 PM

damn sorry to hear that...hope in some way the dyno was fucked up and the heads were actually more decent than that.

thewayshemoves · July 1st, 2008, 11:47 PM

what would make them so useless?

G.T. Rags · July 1st, 2008, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

Sorry to hear the bug got to you too... I will never, ever, run a Patriot Part on my car again... Worst decision in the world.

what patriot part did u use?

MustangMatt96GT · July 1st, 2008, 11:50 PM

the heads i bought locally were from alabama cylinder head AKA patriot performance. Now mine werent ported, but the ports were off, and the valve seals and guides were crap.

G.T. Rags · July 1st, 2008, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by MustangMatt96GT

the heads i bought locally were from alabama cylinder head AKA patriot performance. Now mine werent ported, but the ports were off, and the valve seals and guides were crap.

u mean they weren't ported when u bought them or u didn't have them ported?

MustangMatt96GT · July 1st, 2008, 11:56 PM

They were not ported by Patriot Perfomance. They were a "stock Replacement" head from Albama Cylinder Head, but Patriot uses the same castings as Alabama cylinder head.

Turns out Patriot or ACH bought 450,000 bad casted heads from ford thinking no big deal we are going to port them anyway... Turns out the valve guides, seals, and all that junk was bad too and they didnt fix that part ethier. The ports were way off and not to mention they sold me a toast head already. It had been run of no oil pressure and had huge gashes in the cam journals. I will never ever touch a Patriot head for any car.

In fact for being so "patriotic" patriot perfomance SBF heads are made in China... explain that to me.

jivepepper · July 1st, 2008, 11:57 PM

I'm going to do a compression test tomorrow just to make nothing else is wrong.

Maybe I'm expecting to much for 13 lbs of boost. Could it be I need to increase the amount of boost to take advantage of the heads?

July 1st, 2008, 07:45 PM	#1
jivepepper MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 3,146	Patriot sucks I made 7 hp more after adding stage 2 Patriots heads and the also added 2* of timing and ran 200 rpms higher. This was a 515 hp supercharged car. They got some of the low rpm cruising miss out at tuners but that is about it. Also I'm sorry I went with the bullets. Head is ringing after the 200 mile trip, Saying I'm disappointed is an understatement. I have spent thousands off dollars to ruin what was a nice car. Fck!!! __________________ 2000 GT a mixture of Mustangs, Cobras and other Ford vehicles from 96-04* 665/540 SUPERCHARGED SOHC 2V 281ci V8 @20PSI 7K RPM *Best 1/4 11.1 best trap 132 Street tune(638 rwhp) 80, 315/35/17 DR'S, Shifting a little early**

July 1st, 2008, 08:12 PM	#3
lilmarc1988 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 mustang gt Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: lehigh acres, fl Posts: 1,380	are u serious?? thats it? __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3112249 kicker 10 inch L5, kicker 6x8 coaxials, kicker 400x1 and kicker 350x4

July 1st, 2008, 08:14 PM	#4
MyGT Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 2@100000.67 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orlando Posts: 915	Wow. Speechless __________________ Unite for Bubba SlowGT

July 1st, 2008, 08:42 PM	#5
Smoothgrandmama Editor/Blue Cyclone 03 Cobra, 09 GT 1 Minute 23 secs @36 mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Willis,Texas Posts: 2,985	Get ac to port them for you. . . . . . . . __________________ ''Opinions are immunity to being told your wrong''

July 1st, 2008, 09:03 PM	#8
KhaosGT Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 819	wow im sorry to hear that bro __________________ 2004 Black Mustang Gt "I'm a agent of chaos" -Joker,Dark Knight

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July 1st, 2008, 09:32 PM	#11
jivepepper MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 3,146	The only other things that might be a little to blame. are my deep dish wheels which are a lot heavier than the stock satin gt wheels I had last time and it was 26* hotter than last time. __________________ 2000 GT a mixture of Mustangs, Cobras and other Ford vehicles from 96-04 665/540 SUPERCHARGED SOHC 2V 281ci V8 @20PSI 7K RPM *Best 1/4 11.1 best trap 132 Street tune(638 rwhp) 80, 315/35/17 DR'S, Shifting a little early**

July 1st, 2008, 09:56 PM	#12
JayC Regular 2001 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 271	Most of us know to stay away from Patriot junk. __________________ 2001 GT Pro Street Racer 12.51 @ 108 mph w/ CMS stage II cams 11.55@ 118 mph NX all stock longblock

July 1st, 2008, 10:45 PM	#13
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.36@110 with d/a of 8330 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,944	Sorry to hear the bug got to you too... I will never, ever, run a Patriot Part on my car again... Worst decision in the world. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-part-3-a.html Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions

July 1st, 2008, 11:50 PM	#17
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.36@110 with d/a of 8330 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,944	the heads i bought locally were from alabama cylinder head AKA patriot performance. Now mine werent ported, but the ports were off, and the valve seals and guides were crap. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-part-3-a.html Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions

July 1st, 2008, 11:56 PM	#19
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 12.36@110 with d/a of 8330 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 7,944	They were not ported by Patriot Perfomance. They were a "stock Replacement" head from Albama Cylinder Head, but Patriot uses the same castings as Alabama cylinder head. Turns out Patriot or ACH bought 450,000 bad casted heads from ford thinking no big deal we are going to port them anyway... Turns out the valve guides, seals, and all that junk was bad too and they didnt fix that part ethier. The ports were way off and not to mention they sold me a toast head already. It had been run of no oil pressure and had huge gashes in the cam journals. I will never ever touch a Patriot head for any car. In fact for being so "patriotic" patriot perfomance SBF heads are made in China... explain that to me. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-part-3-a.html Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions

July 1st, 2008, 11:57 PM	#20
jivepepper MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Under a sombrero Posts: 3,146	I'm going to do a compression test tomorrow just to make nothing else is wrong. Maybe I'm expecting to much for 13 lbs of boost. Could it be I need to increase the amount of boost to take advantage of the heads? __________________ 2000 GT a mixture of Mustangs, Cobras and other Ford vehicles from 96-04 665/540 SUPERCHARGED SOHC 2V 281ci V8 @20PSI 7K RPM *Best 1/4 11.1 best trap 132 Street tune(638 rwhp) 80, 315/35/17 DR'S, Shifting a little early**

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