[MSTGGT00]

I am a 5spd guy, however I happened to come across a 2000 GT which I love, it's an automatic. I gave it a chance, and now... I love it, just doesnt feel like it has the kick of what a 5spd would. This would be thanks to the smoother shifting?

Me and my cousin were goin to take our cars down to the track just as a base run to see how they line up...

I've got a 2000 GT (V8 4.6L) and He's got a 98 (V8 4.6L) neither have had any mods... he is decent to good with a stick, how do you think they would fare? Which would pull out ahead in it's current state?

That said, what can I do to give my pony a little more kick? I want to keep the auto, I just don't want it to feel so lame. It does have the speed and power, it's just... it doesn't feel it.

First thing, I want to eliminate the smooth shifting while increasing perfomance. I am not concerned with luxury and comfort.

I have been told a Shift Kit would be a good start. What else can I do. And... money is an object. Like I said, it's killing me that my mustang feels weak (even though, it has proven it's not).

[sonicblue]

shift kit and 4.10s would be a nice help...and you should take him no problem when ur both stock

[MSTGGT00]

You think both stock my auto 2000 can take his 98 manual? Even with him being a good shift?

And, A shift Kit... will run be what? I'm coming up with around 140 for a J. Mod, plus installation - 200?

Unless the install isn't too bad.

And 4.10s? Whats that going to run me, labor included? A rough guess?

Sorry for all the questions, think the shift kit will make a noticeable difference? You know what I mean, when an auto changes gears... it glides between them, when a manual changs gears, it slams into the next gear, no huge duration for comfort.

[HMUSN]

dude you have a pi engine... you'll beat him already .

but seriously if you really want to toast him get the gears.
they are like 150-175 bucks and another 200-250 to install.
you pi engine makes 260 to his 235 i think

[MSTGGT00]

Originally Posted by HMUSN dude you have a pi engine... you'll beat him already . but seriously if you really want to toast him get the gears. they are like 150-175 bucks and another 200-250 to install. you pi engine makes 260 to his 235 i think

Actually... 98GT pulls in at 225, and the 2000GT 265.

I didn't even do my homework before I asked. God, now that I think about it.... I own him stock. Once I hook up some 410s and a shift kit I should really be doin something good. If the latter 2 live up to their name.

MY next question would be... what would my next mod be after those 2 which would give me the best increase?

[sonicblue]

a good flowing complete exhaust set up would help. u should be able to get the gears installed a little cheaper than that if you shop around. but still 250 is better than some shops that i got quotes from. just depends where ur located i guess

[MSTGGT00]

Any recommendations on exhaust...

[Tfreestyle]

I have an auto too. I am definately going with 4.10 gears. Definately get full exhaust and you might want to get a programmer. I got a hypertech which I could definately feel the difference but there are better ones on the market, I bought mine awhile back. I think its the xcal II or something like that, I forgot the name off the top of my head.

[sonicblue]

for exhaust if u got the cash get kooks headers and mid pipe. they are a great quality product.

[ShapeShifter]

i have an auto also and gears is what ya want,add a custom tune and it feels like whiplash when the car shifts,hehe!!

[ChrisJ]

4.10's and a SCT XCAL2 FTW!

Firm up those shifts and with the gears it will be alot more fun...

[99mustang232]

x3.... sct + 4.10's!!!

[GTSilver]

Originally Posted by BeforeAeonsCame i have an auto also and gears is what ya want,add a custom tune and it feels like whiplash when the car shifts,hehe!!

i second that...we've got pretty much tha same set up and yea....thats how it feels. plus lots of people see auto mustangs and think that just cuz theyre auto that means theyre stock...i think auto's add to the sleeper image...thats why i plan on getting a supercharger hehe

[ShapeShifter]

[sweet99]

You will win easily. Don't spend much on exhaust and skip headers. The most gain is in the mid pipe.
Quick cheap HP is a Steeda Timing Adjuster. PM me if interested as I have one I am not using. Tuners primarily add timing though they do lean the fuel maps some. For an example on timing a stock Stang calls for 10* of advance at 4K rpm's and Brenspeed set my 93 octane tune at 23* at that rpm and at 5K stock calls for 16* and I have 24*.
When I was using the adjuster I had a Predator tuner and Brent told me to add 6-8* on top of the 10% the Predator allows in 2 rpm ranges! I went with 6* extra and no knock.
Try shifting manually as that will build line pressure in the tranny and give you crisper shifts until you get a good tuner. Not sure where to shift at but try 5500rpm's to start. Mark

[HMUSN]

since when did they give the 99-04 GT's 5 more HP?

and i did guesstimate on the 98.

yea you should have no problem toasting him.

[MSTGGT00]

Originally Posted by sweet99 You will win easily. Don't spend much on exhaust and skip headers. The most gain is in the mid pipe. Quick cheap HP is a Steeda Timing Adjuster. PM me if interested as I have one I am not using. Tuners primarily add timing though they do lean the fuel maps some. For an example on timing a stock Stang calls for 10* of advance at 4K rpm's and Brenspeed set my 93 octane tune at 23* at that rpm and at 5K stock calls for 16* and I have 24*. When I was using the adjuster I had a Predator tuner and Brent told me to add 6-8* on top of the 10% the Predator allows in 2 rpm ranges! I went with 6* extra and no knock. Try shifting manually as that will build line pressure in the tranny and give you crisper shifts until you get a good tuner. Not sure where to shift at but try 5500rpm's to start. Mark

Manually shifting to build line pressure on an auto? You are aware... that an automatic has only 1st and 2nd gear in regards to manual shifting.

Also, what about Manual Valve Covers? Worthwhile, or ney?

Anyway, so far what I am getting is get the gears first and firm my shift points to get the shifting effect I want?

Alright, so ... can I actually do the latter myself or do I need to take it somewhere to have it done properly?

[sweet99]

Originally Posted by MSTGGT00 Originally Posted by sweet99 You will win easily. Don't spend much on exhaust and skip headers. The most gain is in the mid pipe. Quick cheap HP is a Steeda Timing Adjuster. PM me if interested as I have one I am not using. Tuners primarily add timing though they do lean the fuel maps some. For an example on timing a stock Stang calls for 10* of advance at 4K rpm's and Brenspeed set my 93 octane tune at 23* at that rpm and at 5K stock calls for 16* and I have 24*. When I was using the adjuster I had a Predator tuner and Brent told me to add 6-8* on top of the 10% the Predator allows in 2 rpm ranges! I went with 6* extra and no knock. Try shifting manually as that will build line pressure in the tranny and give you crisper shifts until you get a good tuner. Not sure where to shift at but try 5500rpm's to start. Mark Manually shifting to build line pressure on an auto? You are aware... that an automatic has only 1st and 2nd gear in regards to manual shifting. Also, what about Manual Valve Covers? Worthwhile, or ney? Anyway, so far what I am getting is get the gears first and firm my shift points to get the shifting effect I want? Alright, so ... can I actually do the latter myself or do I need to take it somewhere to have it done properly?

Why not shift manually from 2-3?
You'll have to deceide for yourself on manual valve covers.
You can't do a shift kit yourself but you can do a tuner. Good luck, Mark

[MSTGGT00]

Originally Posted by sweet99 Why not shift manually from 2-3? You'll have to deceide for yourself on manual valve covers. You can't do a shift kit yourself but you can do a tuner. Good luck, Mark

What? And I know that I can't do a shift kit, no idea anout a tuner... no exp. with that.

And i meant, manual vavle bodies*** was half asleep.

For those who aren't familiar:

Manual / Automatic
Valve Body

The Hughes manual/automatic valve body is designed for street/strip operation. It will let you shift manually or put the shifter into drive and the transmission remains full automatic. When shifting manually this valve body will remain in the gear until you select the next gear, and then provide you with a clean, crisp transition as you accelerate.

I'm just trying to go with the next thing that will give me the most increase in performance, budget means best first, moderate upgrades later.

[Drgnracin72]

ok a shift kit is very simple to do. why do a timing adjuster when your handheld tuner will do the same thing. someone said the headers arent gonna make power but the midpiep will do more. welll thats not the case. most pople just do the midpipe cuz its easy and the headers arent. the headers can give you anywhere from 15-25 hp, not a bad gain if i mst say so. also dont shift your auto manuelly unless its a c4 or something. just run the car in D and youll be better.