Kenne Bell Supercharger or Hellion Turbo?

Chris02 · November 17th, 2006, 12:08 PM

Hey guys.

Just pick which one has the better gain in power and the pros and cons of both..thanks alot!

Chris

Chris02 · November 17th, 2006, 12:09 PM

Some people say the KB doesn't have as good of a gain in power than the Hellion...hmmm

Drgnracin72 · November 17th, 2006, 12:11 PM

turbos will always make more power than the supers will. the kb will have more right at the bottem than the turbo but trubos still make good torqu down low. i say go for the turbo seup

99mustang232 · November 17th, 2006, 12:55 PM

i would go hellion, but you can't lose either choice... it is a win win situation

Drgnracin72 · November 17th, 2006, 02:56 PM

that sounds like one helluva good deal. what kinda cubes are they getting out of that setup?

EDIT: this post was made in another thread and somehow ended up here? fuckin weird

GTSilver · November 17th, 2006, 03:48 PM

i think the turbo is the way to go...but they are expensive and u gotta deal with turbo lag...that is a big factor...if ur auto get a stall...cuz u wanna get the turbo wound up a good deal when takin off. thats the only downside...and its not a big deal

Chris02 · November 17th, 2006, 03:54 PM

I got a 5-speed

GTSilver · November 17th, 2006, 04:00 PM

go turbo! for sure! i'm gonna try to find a video of a helion turbod mach 1 smokin some terminators

Chris02 · November 17th, 2006, 04:01 PM

right on

GTSilver · November 17th, 2006, 04:07 PM

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...409cb63cb9.htm check this out

HMUSN · November 17th, 2006, 04:10 PM

turbo lag can be fixed with nitrous ya know

itschristorres8 · November 17th, 2006, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by GTSilver

i think the turbo is the way to go...but they are expensive and u gotta deal with turbo lag...that is a big factor...if ur auto get a stall...cuz u wanna get the turbo wound up a good deal when takin off. thats the only downside...and its not a big deal

turbo lag isnt that big a of a factor, they make kits where the turbo spools almost instantly and other kits the spool at 2500 rpms...with gears in first gear it'll take half a second to reach that rpm if that. the rest of the time in the 1/4 you should deffinitly be above 2,500 rpms even 3000 rpms there for there is almost no turbo lag.

as far as the turbo being fully boosted that too isnt hard cuz ive looked up turbo kits for my v6 it can start at 2,600rpms and fully bbe boosted at 3k rpms
this kit can also be sold to GT owners

GTSilver · November 17th, 2006, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by itschristorres8

Originally Posted by GTSilver

i think the turbo is the way to go...but they are expensive and u gotta deal with turbo lag...that is a big factor...if ur auto get a stall...cuz u wanna get the turbo wound up a good deal when takin off. thats the only downside...and its not a big deal

turbo lag isnt that big a of a factor, they make kits where the turbo spools almost instantly and other kits the spool at 2500 rpms...with gears in first gear it'll take half a second to reach that rpm if that. the rest of the time in the 1/4 you should deffinitly be above 2,500 rpms even 3000 rpms there for there is almost no turbo lag.

as far as the turbo being fully boosted that too isnt hard cuz ive looked up turbo kits for my v6 it can start at 2,600rpms and fully bbe boosted at 3k rpms
this kit can also be sold to GT owners

um i think i stressed that already...oh yea it was when i said that "its not a big deal"

99mustang232 · November 17th, 2006, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

turbo lag can be fixed with nitrous ya know

actually it can be fixed by picking the right turbo for your application

itschristorres8 · November 17th, 2006, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by GTSilver

Originally Posted by itschristorres8

Originally Posted by GTSilver

i think the turbo is the way to go...but they are expensive and u gotta deal with turbo lag...that is a big factor...if ur auto get a stall...cuz u wanna get the turbo wound up a good deal when takin off. thats the only downside...and its not a big deal

turbo lag isnt that big a of a factor, they make kits where the turbo spools almost instantly and other kits the spool at 2500 rpms...with gears in first gear it'll take half a second to reach that rpm if that. the rest of the time in the 1/4 you should deffinitly be above 2,500 rpms even 3000 rpms there for there is almost no turbo lag.

as far as the turbo being fully boosted that too isnt hard cuz ive looked up turbo kits for my v6 it can start at 2,600rpms and fully bbe boosted at 3k rpms
this kit can also be sold to GT owners

um i think i stressed that already...oh yea it was when i said that "its not a big deal"

so then why would you say turbo lag is a big issue...no matter the turbo application when your racing you are in powerband.....ive never heard of a turbo that isnt spooling or fully spoolled at the begining or mid point of power band.
unless you get like a t3 which would be an idiotic move as performance mod choice for the car this guy is tryin to make...plus he sed hellion...thats a good brand turbo...he will be set and his turbo lag might be .5 of second at the start if that! cuz first gear with 4.10s in manual will be less then 2 seconds with a stock set up and onlly the 4.10s.
by the time he gets turbo i bet it'll take him .3 of second til his turbo spools with that hellion

sweet99 · November 17th, 2006, 11:39 PM

Aren't the turbo kits around $6K? An entry level KB SC is $4K. It will produce 6psi and run on 93 and not need an intercooler.
With a turbo alky injection is about a necessity on pump. 93 octane would limit most of the larger turbo's to 18psi or so. A turbo flowing much over 600CFM or 44lbs. a minute would have to stay at the 18psi level.
Personally I would choose the KB kit if I go FI someday. I have had a lot of turbo experience and they are quite a rush when boost hits hard and plants you into the seat back! I had an AWD Talon and modded to the max. 30psi and required a mix of 112 leaded octane with 93 or sometimes straight 112. Good luck with the FI and let us know what the turbo system you are interested in costs please, mark

Chris02 · November 17th, 2006, 11:45 PM

Thanks a lot guys..I appreciate all of your opinion..so much..it means a lot..My mind was set on getting a Cobra so bad..but I was thinking..I got a GT out there that I love to death and I'm throwing it away and trying to get a Cobra..I mean..hell yes, A cobra is an awesome start and easy to get going real fast..but than you die so whats the point of that lol..just kiddin..but there awesome..but I just think it would be fun to make a GT faster than a KBed Cobra and it's possible..and make the GT lighter..get iton a diet haha. And i'd be eating KBed Cobra's out there. Just gotta be smart with what I pick and get the GT real light lol.

Chris02 · November 17th, 2006, 11:47 PM

A sleeper GT = F*CKING AWESOME!!!!!!!

handyandy · November 18th, 2006, 01:12 AM

A supercharger is going to be easier to install for sure and cheaper. If you are going to get a turbo, you need a twin turbo. I dunno what a hellion is, but if its twin, and if you have the money, go for it. But a turbo's maintenance and breakdown rate is way higher than a supercharger. But you would want a twin, since if you only had a single turbo you would only get the exhaust from only half of your cylinders. You probably know that though. I would get a supercharger. If you are thinking turbo, you would prbly have the money for a good kenne bell twinscrew you could pop on there. You would get massive gains throughout the entire powerband instead of waiting to spool up. You'd still rape no matter what. But the cheaper, easier, still just as good if not better choice, is a super.

ChrisJ · November 18th, 2006, 01:54 AM

Go with the turbo...

You can go with the hellion kit...

But me personally I would go for a MPH Turbo Set-Up or a HP Set-up...

I prefer the twins...

www.modularpowerhouse.com
www.turbochargedpower.com

November 17th, 2006, 12:08 PM	#1
Chris02 Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 614 iTrader: 0 reviews	Kenne Bell Supercharger or Hellion Turbo? Hey guys. Just pick which one has the better gain in power and the pros and cons of both..thanks alot! Chris __________________ 2002 Mustang GT 5spd. 3.73's, JLT CAI, 91 SCT-X3 Tune, H&R SS's, MM CC plates, Dark smoked headlights/fogs, chin spoiler & grill delete

November 17th, 2006, 12:09 PM	#2
Chris02 Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 614 iTrader: 0 reviews	Some people say the KB doesn't have as good of a gain in power than the Hellion...hmmm __________________ 2002 Mustang GT 5spd. 3.73's, JLT CAI, 91 SCT-X3 Tune, H&R SS's, MM CC plates, Dark smoked headlights/fogs, chin spoiler & grill delete

November 17th, 2006, 12:11 PM	#3
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	turbos will always make more power than the supers will. the kb will have more right at the bottem than the turbo but trubos still make good torqu down low. i say go for the turbo seup __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

November 17th, 2006, 12:55 PM	#4
99mustang232 MM Fanatic 1999 Ford Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: newport news, va Posts: 3,745 iTrader: 0 reviews	i would go hellion, but you can't lose either choice... it is a win win situation __________________ ...even fire and single cammin 1986 Ford F-150 5.0L 2WD 1994 Toyota Pickup 2.4L 4WD 1999 Ford Mustang 3.8L V6 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L 2WD 2008 GMC Sierra Denali 6.2L AWD

November 17th, 2006, 02:56 PM	#5
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,638 iTrader: 2 reviews	that sounds like one helluva good deal. what kinda cubes are they getting out of that setup? EDIT: this post was made in another thread and somehow ended up here? fuckin weird __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

November 17th, 2006, 03:48 PM	#6
GTSilver Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 698 iTrader: 0 reviews	i think the turbo is the way to go...but they are expensive and u gotta deal with turbo lag...that is a big factor...if ur auto get a stall...cuz u wanna get the turbo wound up a good deal when takin off. thats the only downside...and its not a big deal __________________ 2002 GT K&N CAI O/R X-Pipe Race Bullit Mufflers SCT Xcal2 w/Custom Tune By RWTD 4.10 Rear Nitto D/R's FR500 Rims 17x9 17x10.5

November 17th, 2006, 03:54 PM	#7
Chris02 Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 614 iTrader: 0 reviews	I got a 5-speed __________________ 2002 Mustang GT 5spd. 3.73's, JLT CAI, 91 SCT-X3 Tune, H&R SS's, MM CC plates, Dark smoked headlights/fogs, chin spoiler & grill delete

November 17th, 2006, 04:00 PM	#8
GTSilver Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 698 iTrader: 0 reviews	go turbo! for sure! i'm gonna try to find a video of a helion turbod mach 1 smokin some terminators __________________ 2002 GT K&N CAI O/R X-Pipe Race Bullit Mufflers SCT Xcal2 w/Custom Tune By RWTD 4.10 Rear Nitto D/R's FR500 Rims 17x9 17x10.5

November 17th, 2006, 04:01 PM	#9
Chris02 Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 614 iTrader: 0 reviews	right on __________________ 2002 Mustang GT 5spd. 3.73's, JLT CAI, 91 SCT-X3 Tune, H&R SS's, MM CC plates, Dark smoked headlights/fogs, chin spoiler & grill delete

November 17th, 2006, 04:07 PM	#10
GTSilver Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 698 iTrader: 0 reviews	http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...409cb63cb9.htm check this out __________________ 2002 GT K&N CAI O/R X-Pipe Race Bullit Mufflers SCT Xcal2 w/Custom Tune By RWTD 4.10 Rear Nitto D/R's FR500 Rims 17x9 17x10.5

November 17th, 2006, 04:10 PM	#11
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	turbo lag can be fixed with nitrous ya know __________________

November 17th, 2006, 11:39 PM	#16
sweet99 Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 201 iTrader: 0 reviews	Aren't the turbo kits around $6K? An entry level KB SC is $4K. It will produce 6psi and run on 93 and not need an intercooler. With a turbo alky injection is about a necessity on pump. 93 octane would limit most of the larger turbo's to 18psi or so. A turbo flowing much over 600CFM or 44lbs. a minute would have to stay at the 18psi level. Personally I would choose the KB kit if I go FI someday. I have had a lot of turbo experience and they are quite a rush when boost hits hard and plants you into the seat back! I had an AWD Talon and modded to the max. 30psi and required a mix of 112 leaded octane with 93 or sometimes straight 112. Good luck with the FI and let us know what the turbo system you are interested in costs please, mark __________________ '99 Convertible. 4.10's, PYPES catted X-pipe and catback. UDP's. 75mmBBK TB/plenum. JLT CAI. UDP's, Brenspeed custom tuned SCT. SVO intake & SHM cams this winter! Lord willing.

November 17th, 2006, 11:45 PM	#17
Chris02 Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 614 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks a lot guys..I appreciate all of your opinion..so much..it means a lot..My mind was set on getting a Cobra so bad..but I was thinking..I got a GT out there that I love to death and I'm throwing it away and trying to get a Cobra..I mean..hell yes, A cobra is an awesome start and easy to get going real fast..but than you die so whats the point of that lol..just kiddin..but there awesome..but I just think it would be fun to make a GT faster than a KBed Cobra and it's possible..and make the GT lighter..get iton a diet haha. And i'd be eating KBed Cobra's out there. Just gotta be smart with what I pick and get the GT real light lol. __________________ 2002 Mustang GT 5spd. 3.73's, JLT CAI, 91 SCT-X3 Tune, H&R SS's, MM CC plates, Dark smoked headlights/fogs, chin spoiler & grill delete

November 17th, 2006, 11:47 PM	#18
Chris02 Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 614 iTrader: 0 reviews	A sleeper GT = FCKING AWESOME!!!!!!! __________________ 2002 Mustang GT 5spd.* 3.73's, JLT CAI, 91 SCT-X3 Tune, H&R SS's, MM CC plates, Dark smoked headlights/fogs, chin spoiler & grill delete

November 18th, 2006, 01:12 AM	#19
handyandy Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 105 iTrader: 0 reviews	A supercharger is going to be easier to install for sure and cheaper. If you are going to get a turbo, you need a twin turbo. I dunno what a hellion is, but if its twin, and if you have the money, go for it. But a turbo's maintenance and breakdown rate is way higher than a supercharger. But you would want a twin, since if you only had a single turbo you would only get the exhaust from only half of your cylinders. You probably know that though. I would get a supercharger. If you are thinking turbo, you would prbly have the money for a good kenne bell twinscrew you could pop on there. You would get massive gains throughout the entire powerband instead of waiting to spool up. You'd still rape no matter what. But the cheaper, easier, still just as good if not better choice, is a super. __________________ 2001 Mineral Grey GT - 5 Speed -full bolt-ons, 4.10's

November 18th, 2006, 01:54 AM	#20
ChrisJ This Is YOUR CHANGE... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 36,631 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 9 reviews	Go with the turbo... You can go with the hellion kit... But me personally I would go for a MPH Turbo Set-Up or a HP Set-up... I prefer the twins... www.modularpowerhouse.com www.turbochargedpower.com __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

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