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Old November 17th, 2006, 12:08 PM   #1
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Kenne Bell Supercharger or Hellion Turbo?


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Just pick which one has the better gain in power and the pros and cons of both..thanks alot!

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Some people say the KB doesn't have as good of a gain in power than the Hellion...hmmm
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turbos will always make more power than the supers will. the kb will have more right at the bottem than the turbo but trubos still make good torqu down low. i say go for the turbo seup
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i would go hellion, but you can't lose either choice... it is a win win situation
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that sounds like one helluva good deal. what kinda cubes are they getting out of that setup?

EDIT: this post was made in another thread and somehow ended up here? fuckin weird
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i think the turbo is the way to go...but they are expensive and u gotta deal with turbo lag...that is a big factor...if ur auto get a stall...cuz u wanna get the turbo wound up a good deal when takin off. thats the only downside...and its not a big deal
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I got a 5-speed
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go turbo! for sure! i'm gonna try to find a video of a helion turbod mach 1 smokin some terminators
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http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...409cb63cb9.htm check this out
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turbo lag can be fixed with nitrous ya know
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Originally Posted by GTSilver
i think the turbo is the way to go...but they are expensive and u gotta deal with turbo lag...that is a big factor...if ur auto get a stall...cuz u wanna get the turbo wound up a good deal when takin off. thats the only downside...and its not a big deal
turbo lag isnt that big a of a factor, they make kits where the turbo spools almost instantly and other kits the spool at 2500 rpms...with gears in first gear it'll take half a second to reach that rpm if that. the rest of the time in the 1/4 you should deffinitly be above 2,500 rpms even 3000 rpms there for there is almost no turbo lag.

as far as the turbo being fully boosted that too isnt hard cuz ive looked up turbo kits for my v6 it can start at 2,600rpms and fully bbe boosted at 3k rpms
this kit can also be sold to GT owners
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i think the turbo is the way to go...but they are expensive and u gotta deal with turbo lag...that is a big factor...if ur auto get a stall...cuz u wanna get the turbo wound up a good deal when takin off. thats the only downside...and its not a big deal
turbo lag isnt that big a of a factor, they make kits where the turbo spools almost instantly and other kits the spool at 2500 rpms...with gears in first gear it'll take half a second to reach that rpm if that. the rest of the time in the 1/4 you should deffinitly be above 2,500 rpms even 3000 rpms there for there is almost no turbo lag.

as far as the turbo being fully boosted that too isnt hard cuz ive looked up turbo kits for my v6 it can start at 2,600rpms and fully bbe boosted at 3k rpms
this kit can also be sold to GT owners
um i think i stressed that already...oh yea it was when i said that "its not a big deal"
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Originally Posted by HMUSN
turbo lag can be fixed with nitrous ya know
actually it can be fixed by picking the right turbo for your application
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i think the turbo is the way to go...but they are expensive and u gotta deal with turbo lag...that is a big factor...if ur auto get a stall...cuz u wanna get the turbo wound up a good deal when takin off. thats the only downside...and its not a big deal
turbo lag isnt that big a of a factor, they make kits where the turbo spools almost instantly and other kits the spool at 2500 rpms...with gears in first gear it'll take half a second to reach that rpm if that. the rest of the time in the 1/4 you should deffinitly be above 2,500 rpms even 3000 rpms there for there is almost no turbo lag.

as far as the turbo being fully boosted that too isnt hard cuz ive looked up turbo kits for my v6 it can start at 2,600rpms and fully bbe boosted at 3k rpms
this kit can also be sold to GT owners
um i think i stressed that already...oh yea it was when i said that "its not a big deal"
so then why would you say turbo lag is a big issue...no matter the turbo application when your racing you are in powerband.....ive never heard of a turbo that isnt spooling or fully spoolled at the begining or mid point of power band.
unless you get like a t3 which would be an idiotic move as performance mod choice for the car this guy is tryin to make...plus he sed hellion...thats a good brand turbo...he will be set and his turbo lag might be .5 of second at the start if that! cuz first gear with 4.10s in manual will be less then 2 seconds with a stock set up and onlly the 4.10s.
by the time he gets turbo i bet it'll take him .3 of second til his turbo spools with that hellion
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Aren't the turbo kits around $6K? An entry level KB SC is $4K. It will produce 6psi and run on 93 and not need an intercooler.
With a turbo alky injection is about a necessity on pump. 93 octane would limit most of the larger turbo's to 18psi or so. A turbo flowing much over 600CFM or 44lbs. a minute would have to stay at the 18psi level.
Personally I would choose the KB kit if I go FI someday. I have had a lot of turbo experience and they are quite a rush when boost hits hard and plants you into the seat back! I had an AWD Talon and modded to the max. 30psi and required a mix of 112 leaded octane with 93 or sometimes straight 112. Good luck with the FI and let us know what the turbo system you are interested in costs please, mark
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Thanks a lot guys..I appreciate all of your opinion..so much..it means a lot..My mind was set on getting a Cobra so bad..but I was thinking..I got a GT out there that I love to death and I'm throwing it away and trying to get a Cobra..I mean..hell yes, A cobra is an awesome start and easy to get going real fast..but than you die so whats the point of that lol..just kiddin..but there awesome..but I just think it would be fun to make a GT faster than a KBed Cobra and it's possible..and make the GT lighter..get iton a diet haha. And i'd be eating KBed Cobra's out there. Just gotta be smart with what I pick and get the GT real light lol.
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A sleeper GT = F*CKING AWESOME!!!!!!!
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A supercharger is going to be easier to install for sure and cheaper. If you are going to get a turbo, you need a twin turbo. I dunno what a hellion is, but if its twin, and if you have the money, go for it. But a turbo's maintenance and breakdown rate is way higher than a supercharger. But you would want a twin, since if you only had a single turbo you would only get the exhaust from only half of your cylinders. You probably know that though. I would get a supercharger. If you are thinking turbo, you would prbly have the money for a good kenne bell twinscrew you could pop on there. You would get massive gains throughout the entire powerband instead of waiting to spool up. You'd still rape no matter what. But the cheaper, easier, still just as good if not better choice, is a super.
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Go with the turbo...

You can go with the hellion kit...

But me personally I would go for a MPH Turbo Set-Up or a HP Set-up...

I prefer the twins...

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